[Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release

Dave Burnett d_b_burnett at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 29 18:32:48 GMT 2012 


On the other hand, the obvious impetus to this direction is the question of Flash's future viability.
When I had this knowledge regarding Authorware, I couldn't professionally advise a client to embark on a major development with a tool nearing it's best by date.And I loved Authorware dearly...

> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:26:49 +0000
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
> 
> I'm keen to help test especially XOT but I won't be able to do much after
> Friday 23rd so the planned schedule sounds good to me.
> 
> The only thing I would say is that I think the communication about the line
> in the sand could easily be misinterpreted. I think it's fine to say that
> once the html5 development starts the focus will be on whatever is in 560 at
> the time but I'm not sure that has to mean there's no further additions or
> improvements to the Flash version. Likewise I'd resist saying that
> eventually the html5 version will handle every page type in the build and
> also make it clear that XOT as it will be at release of 1.8 won't die or
> cease to be of use just because of the development of a html5 version.
> 
> Thomas - I would tread carefully when mentioning any of this - we both know
> some will focus on what they perceive as negatives and potentially create
> barriers that don't exist.
> 
> Ron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 29 February 2012 17:59
> To: thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk; For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
> 
> it's be nice to have a roadmap, or an interested parties something
> 
> a WP Blog with buddypress?
> 
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Thomas Rochford
> <thomas.rochford at jiscadvance.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope it’s alright to let users know about the proposed roadmap. I 
> > will probably need to give some re-assurance about any conversion of 
> > existing models and any modifications to the database, authentication 
> > interfaces, etc. or am I just imagining dragons lurking in the caves?
> >
> >
> >
> > Kindest regards, Thomas.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp 
> > Johnathan
> > Sent: 29 February 2012 16:21
> > To: For Xerte technical developers
> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
> >
> >
> >
> > As far as the model and xwd files are concerned the work on 
> > internationalisation will be done. Not sure if there will be any 
> > translations of the xwd files other than English at this point, but 
> > the work will have been done to expose all the display text in the xwd
> files.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Johnathan
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 February 2012 15:44, Pat Lockley 
> > <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Are we talking 1.8 (with the internationalisation)? Or 1.7 neatening up?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Julian Tenney 
> > <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I 
> >> reckon that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and 
> >> pieces, and then, from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing 
> >> what's there and putting that straight. The testing needs to complete 
> >> by around 23rd (or more or
> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc.
> >>
> >> Is that OK with everyone?
> >>
> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing 
> >> the
> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think 
> >> hard about how to best manage any new functionality to the existing 
> >> system whilst we develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand 
> >> that says after this build, play_560 will have an example of every 
> >> page template in it (this will be my contribution to the testing), 
> >> and the html5 runtime will (eventually) handle every page type in the 
> >> build. What's going to be hard is having people adding new templates 
> >> whilst we try and replicate the functionality in the new stuff.
> >>
> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to 
> >> the implications of where we are going, because at some point, the 
> >> HTML5 runtime will become the primary delivery system, and we have to 
> >> look to a future where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at 
> >> all. Finger in the air, I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but
> maybe less.
> >>
> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to 
> >> spend any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but 
> >> will deal with it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I 
> >> won't be looking to increase the number of templates in the main
> distribution.
> >>
> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some 
> >> sensible framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it 
> >> easy for developers to add new templates in the future. I still 
> >> anticipate the xwd driving the wizard form, and therefore some xml 
> >> payload being delivered to your code - somehow - for you to use to 
> >> drive your templates, but we haven't even started to really think about
> that just yet.
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the work since September,
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tenney Julian
> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04
> >> To: For Xerte technical developers
> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play
> >>
> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant 
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp 
> >> Johnathan [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com]
> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51
> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List
> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play
> >>
> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly 
> >> serves to focus the mind.
> >>
> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I 
> >> think still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or 
> >> completed. I am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over 
> >> management of the project. I just want to be sure that everything is 
> >> covered, that there are no misunderstandings or differences in 
> >> expectation, so that the project delivers on time.
> >>
> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as 
> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for
> convenience.
> >>
> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel 
> >> free to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to 
> >> date on progress.
> >>
> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document 
> >> accordingly in the svn.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Johnathan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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