[Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: Embed content page

Kemp Johnathan johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
Thu Feb 2 12:19:33 GMT 2012


I have been testing embedDiv in desktop xerte both in a pageTemplates
project and as an individual page template. To test I have published the
project and then simply opened index.htm in a browser. I have no web server
running on my PC. I am assuming that the javascript that makes the page
work is running in the browser and does not therefor require a web server.

This I believe would rule out mime types as being an issue.

The url I used was the guardian home page as indicated in an earlier post
and this worked fine for Julian, so spaces in file names should not be an
issue.

Has anyone tested embedDiv in a pageTemplates desktop Xerte project and
then been able to publish the project, open the page in a browser and view
the embedded content, in a situation in which they are not using a web
server?

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 2 February 2012 11:53, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> firstly apologies for what will be a long message and also I decided it
> would be better to continue to discuss this on the dev list rather than the
> main list hope that's ok...
>
>
>
> I'm a big fan of the embed content page because it addresses one of the
> barriers a lot of people come up with about not being able to embed their
> favourite web 2 sites/resources etc to big thanks to whoever contributed to
> this!
>
>
>
> So anyway to continue this thread and Jonthan's tests I've been testing
> and comparing files and versions and I think Julian indicated the most
> up-to-date embedDiv.rlm is in the xerte svn rather than xot svn. However I
> could easily be wrong but from my tests I don't think that's the case. I'm
> assuming that the code in embedDiv.rlm and it's dependencies evolved since
> it was first added and I think at first the window size was fixed
> regardless of LO screen size setting and at some point Julian or Pat or
> someone else? improved this  so that the embed window reflected the LO
> screen size setting. From my tests this works great with one possible
> caveat that I'll cover below but first the difference between the current
> xerte embedDiv.rlm and the current XOT embedDiv.rlm. I think the latter is
> newer and the correct/best version and the crucial difference is shown in
> the attached txt file.
>
>
>
> The other key issue from my tests is what happens when an XOT LO using the
> embed content or new window page is exported. Here's the result of my tests:
>
>
>
> \website_code\php\scorm\scorm_library.php is what creates the index.htm
> which is part of the normal zip export
>
>
>
> As far as I can tell it does this by opening
> \modules\xerte\player\rloObject.htm and renaming that as index.htm and
> adding to the zip
>
>
>
> When exporting as scorm a similar thing happens but in this case it's
> \modules\xerte\scorm\scormRLO.htm that get's opened and made part of the
> exported zip
>
>
>
> So at the moment when exporting from XOT as either normal zip or scorm zip
> the embed content and new window pages don't work because
> \modules\xerte\player\rloObject.htm and \modules\xerte\scorm\scormRLO.htm
> don't currently contain the relevant window code.
>
>
>
> When previewing or playing via xot the embed content and new window pages
> work because the required window code is in \modules\xerte\preview_xerte_top
>
>
>
> The quickest solution is to add the relevant code from
> \modules\xerte\preview_xerte_top to both
> \modules\xerte\player\rloObject.htm and \modules\xerte\scorm\scormRLO.htm
> These then get exported as part of the zip and include the code to make the
> pages work. As well as the window and div code there's a line towards the
> end of the files that also needs to be in place: <div id="popup_parent"/>
>
>
>
> I've added the code to both these pages and tested and it seems to work
> fine. I could commit those changes to the XOT svn but have attached all the
> files here for Pat or someone else to check and verify before doing so.
> Especially in case I'm wrong about all this or if there are other
> versions/revisions flying around?
>
>
>
> The one issue I have found with this and it may be unique to my IE 8 is
> that when first viewed the embed content page window isn't the correct size
> in IE when the default LO screen size is anything but fill window. However
> it works fine when the windows size is changed and it works fine regardless
> of LO screen size in Firefox and Safari. To test this view
> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 and use the toc to navigate
> to the embed content example on page 29. On my Windows 7 laptop it works
> fine in Firefox and Safari but in IE 8 the embed window is much larger than
> the default 800 x 600 LO until changing the screen size option and then
> navigating away from and back to that page. Is it the same for you in IE?
> Is there a fix? Before someone says it a fix other than "don't use IE!" ;-)
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 31 January 2012 14:04
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Embed content page
>
>
>
> I have the Opera javascript console enabled and it displays errors from a
> test script. However when I view the embed content page in a xerte
> published project there are no errors displayed. The project displays but
> there is simply no content embeded.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 31 January 2012 13:43, Pat Lockley <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> any JS errors?
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Kemp Johnathan
> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > Yep,
> >
> > I found the javascript in index.htm of my published project, but I can't
> get
> > the page to work.
> >
> > I have created a simple test javascript page with a couple of
> document.write
> > statements and an alert popup and they work, so javascript is definitely
> > running in the browser.
> >
> > So I am some what stumped as far as testing the page goes.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Johnathan
> >
> > On 31 January 2012 12:36, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> In index.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp
> Johnathan
> >> Sent: 31 January 2012 12:32
> >>
> >>
> >> To: Xerte discussion list
> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embed content page
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have just compared the content of the rlm file from pageTemplates with
> >> that of the XOT svn dated 13/12/2011 (which I downloaded as part of a
> so far
> >> unsuccessful attempt to get toolkits running.)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There are some differences which I have now added to my rlm file for the
> >> individual page template, but the page continues to fail to display in
> >> either Opera or Internet Explorer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I suspect the problem lies in the line
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> callJS('makePopUp', params);
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Where is the javascript located? Is it part of swfObject, or a separate
> >> file?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I suspect the problem is mainly one of not having access to the
> >> javascript?
> >>
> >> So where would I find the relevant javascript files in the XOT svn
> folders
> >> and where would I need to install them in a standalone Xerte
> installation?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johnathan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 31 January 2012 11:46, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Having said that it works in toolkits here. Not sure about local.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian
> Tenney
> >> Sent: 31 January 2012 11:45
> >> To: Xerte discussion list
> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embed content page
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just works here…
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Error! Filename not specified.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp
> Johnathan
> >> Sent: 31 January 2012 11:43
> >> To: Xerte discussion list
> >> Subject: [Xerte] Embed content page
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am trying to get the embed content page to work
> >>
> >> I have created a page in a pagetemplates project and entered into the
> url
> >> the value
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> However when I preview the page the content is empty. I suspect the page
> >> may only work in published projects so I then published the project.
> >>
> >> I have opened the project in both Opera and Internet Explorer and no
> >> content displays.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am I entering the content incorrectly in Embed code or url field of the
> >> form.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can someone suggest a value I can use that is known to work?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johnathan
> >>
> >>
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