[Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues

Pat Lockley patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
Tue Dec 4 16:06:54 GMT 2012


where was that?


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Julian Tenney <
Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> I just fixed this - can’t see a reason to say ****
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> if (something){****
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> $flag == true;****
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> }****
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> But I don’t want to fix ‘features’.****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 04 December 2012 14:47
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
> ** **
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> We've been testing with and without moodle auth set Pat. Obviously on the
> Techdis server that was always set to Moodle auth but this problem occurs
> regardless of what authentication is set.****
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> ** **
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> I think there are two slightly separate issues here:****
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> ** **
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> 1. There is some kind of clash or incompatibility recently introduced
> causing this problem. It happens regardless of authentication method.****
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> ** **
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> 2. It's perhaps a minor point but at the moment integration_config_path is
> used/included regardless of the authentication method set. e.g. if an
> installation has a value in integration_config_path it's included even if
> authentication is set to guest. Maybe with other systems there wouldn't be
> a clash but if there's a session_start() it would still be attempted
> because there's no relation between the authentication method set and
> whether the path is included. But this has been the case for a long time so
> isn't the cause of the main error.****
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> At least I think this is correct.****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
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> *On Behalf Of *Pat Lockley
> *Sent:* 04 December 2012 13:58
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
> ** **
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> If moodle is set then line 45 in
> http://code.google.com/p/xerteonlinetoolkits/source/browse/trunk/auth_config.phpshould never be called?
> ****
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> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> wrote:****
>
> Hi****
>
> I cleared my local xampp error log and then visited my test svn xot
> install and tried creating a project. The attached is the error log as a
> result of that process.****
>
>  ****
>
> Still reviewing it myself but thought I should share in case it highlights
> the cause/solution etc?****
>
>  ****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 04 December 2012 11:29
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
>  ****
>
> Unfortunately not. :-(****
>
> Firstly prior to last Thursday all was working fine with any version of
> Moodle.****
>
> At one point last night it looked like whatever the clash is didn't exist
> with Moodle 2.x but I then tried with a version of Moodle 2.3 and that had
> the same problem. Also as I mentioned there are lots of people using moodle
> for authentication and I'm sure keen to get xot 1.9 with the xenith code
> etc but many won't be able to upgrade from Moodle 1.9 yet for all sorts of
> reasons.****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 04 December 2012 10:36
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
>  ****
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> I’ve read over the posts, thanks for all the work you guys have put in to
> this.****
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>  ****
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> Would it be fair to summarise that things work fine in Moodle 2.x, but not
> moodle 1.9?****
>
>  ****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
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> *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 03 December 2012 22:19
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
>  ****
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> Version 1.9 is not working either if I use the functions.php from svn.
> White screen again. (When using Moodle intergration).
>
> Tom****
>
> Op 3-12-2012 23:12, Tom Reijnders schreef:****
>
> It's a version 2, but I don't know which one.
>
> I also have a moodle 1.9 (but again, I don't know exactly what version).
> But  that one seems to work as well for me. But I have to clear cache etc,
> to make sure I don't use a different session.
>
> Where can you check the exact version of moodle?****
>
> Op 3-12-2012 23:02, Ron Mitchell schreef:****
>
> Tom****
>
> do you have a moodle 1.9 to test with?****
>
>  ****
>
> Your question about moodle version gave me an idea to test locally with
> xampp. I'm going to say this with caution because I thought I was able to
> reproduce the problem with xampp previously too but I just tested the
> following:****
>
>  ****
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> The test install I was using with xampp was using a moodle2 config path
> and not giving the same problems as the linux servers. So I just change
> that config path to a moodle 1.9 install and it did then give the same
> problems. I then changed the config path back to a 1.9 install and the
> problem is there again.****
>
>  ****
>
> So not forgetting that the Techdis server install has been working fine
> with a moodle 1.9 config all this time it seems this indicates the
> following:****
>
>  ****
>
> a recent XOT code change has introduced a clash with moodle 1.9 but not
> moodle 2?****
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>  ****
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> the problem can be reproduced on Windows via xampp if moodle 1.9 is
> avilable to add as the integration_config_path****
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>  ****
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> In theory I could upgrade the Moodle on the techdis server to a later
> version because we aren't using that install for anything else but that
> doesn't help people who want to upgrade xot but can't yet upgrade their
> Moodle and it doesn't really help identify the specific
> change/cause/solution either.****
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>  ****
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> However maybe it's easier to track down with xampp?****
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>  ****
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> Ron****
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>  ****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
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> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 03 December 2012 21:33
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
>  ****
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> As far as I can see the last change to the zend folder was 29/04/2012****
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>  ****
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> On both installations I've been testing the moodle is 1.9x What about
> yours?****
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>  ****
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> Ron****
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>  ****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
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> *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 03 December 2012 21:15
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
>  ****
>
> Yes, but is the Zend folder changed recently? (I am currently not behind
> my PC, so can't check)
>
> I did have a situation where MySQL statements took so long, that the
> workspace was not complete. But then you would have to have 10ths of LO's
> in your workspace.
>
> Can it have anything to do with the version of Moodle used?
>
> Tom****
>
> Op 3-12-2012 22:11, Ron Mitchell schreef:****
>
> Also as far as I can see the last change to /trunk/functions.php was a
> change you made on 23rd of October Tom way before these problems started.*
> ***
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>  ****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
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> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 03 December 2012 21:02
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
>  ****
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> I changed functions.php and restarted Apache but it hasn't fixed the
> create new project issue for me.****
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>  ****
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> You had a blank screen previously - could this be a separate issue? ****
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> Did you ever see the create a new project workspace clears issue?****
>
>  ****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
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> *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 03 December 2012 20:49
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
>  ****
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> It's working for me now.
>
> And whether you have to restart apache depends a bit on whether you have
> eAccelerator or something active. Sometimes it helps to restart apache
> (php).
>
> Tom****
>
> Op 3-12-2012 21:32, Ron Mitchell schreef:****
>
> Hi Tom****
>
> unfortunately this doesn't fix it for me :-(****
>
> I've cleared cache and restarted the browser but still the same problem.**
> **
>
> Does that change require an Apache restart?****
>
> Did you get to a point where you were no longer getting a blank screen and
> seeing the workspace clear when creating a new LO?****
>
> Ron****
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>  ****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
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> *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 03 December 2012 19:46
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
>  ****
>
> Ok...
>
> I've got it working here, if I change line 48 of functions.php
>
> $language = new Zend_Locale();
>
> To
>
> $language = 'en-GB';   (and yes I realize it is doing something else)
>
>
> If this also works for you, than something has changed in the Zend
> installation.
>
> Somewhere in tracing through the constructor of Zend_Locale I end up in
> moodle_request_shutdown() .....
>
> Tom****
>
> Op 3-12-2012 20:38, Ron Mitchell schreef:****
>
> Hi Tom****
>
> yes so for example /var/www/moodle/config.php ****
>
> or on shared hosting might be /home/user/public_html/moodle/config.php****
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>  ****
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> Not sure why you get a blank page - at least I get to see the workspace!
> ;-)****
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>  ****
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> If you change authentication to moodle and restart the browser do you get
> prompted to login to moodle? If you do then the path you have entered is
> correct.****
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>  ****
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> HTH
> Ron****
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>  ****
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> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
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> *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 03 December 2012 19:03
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
>
>  ****
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> Ron,
>
> Just to be sure, in step 6, this is the full Linux file path to the moodle
> config.php, right?
>
> It is definitely not working, I get a blank page, until I remove the
> config path from the sitedetails page.
>
> Nothing shows up in the debug.log, not in the apache errorlog, and nothing
> in the javascript console.
>
> I will try to start all this in the debugger (xdebug).
>
>
> There are two other issues in my install:
> 1. Sometimes the editor disappears behind the browser window.
> 2. In a Media page with an image, preview, all is fine, now close preview
> and try to select a different image....
>
> Tom
>
> Tom****
>
> Op 3-12-2012 17:57, Ron Mitchell schreef:****
>
> Hi John****
>
> I can't help with a VM but here's the steps to replicate...****
>
>  ****
>
> 1. Create a directory in the web root and copy across an export from the
> latest svn trunk e.g. xot19****
>
> 2. Create a new database and user with the relevant privileges or use the
> mysql root account if only a test****
>
> 3. Browse to /xot19/setup/ and follows the tests or go straight to
> /xot19/setup/page1.php****
>
> 4. During setup add the admin account credentials (whatever you want) and
> leave integration_config_path empty****
>
> 5. Upon completion browse to the xot19 url which by default should be
> guest access and create a couple of tests LO's****
>
> All should be fine at this point.****
>
> 6. Visit /xot19/management.php and add the path to moodle config.php****
>
> 7. Now whether you leave authentication set to guest or change it to
> moodle you should see the problem with creating new LO's etc. I'll send a
> link to a screencast of that later.****
>
>  ****
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> HTH****
>
> Ron****
>
>  ****
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> *On Behalf Of *Smith, John
> *Sent:* 03 December 2012 15:38
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Current Issues****
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>  ****
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> Hi,****
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>  ****
>
> I had a go at setting up on a Ubuntu VM on VirtualBox at the weekend but
> ran out of time and into problems figuring out where to put passwords into
> the database using phpMyAdmin, setting up the integration path etc…****
>
>  ****
>
> If someone wants to share a VM which exhibits the problem and share it
> then I’ll definitely take a look at debugging… ****
>
>  ****
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> Regards,****
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>  ****
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> John Smith****
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> Learning Technologist****
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> School of Health & Life Sciences****
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> Glasgow Caledonian University****
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> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* Monday, December 03, 2012 2:08 PM
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Current Issues****
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> Hi,****
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>  ****
>
> Starting a new thread on the current issues with the integration path
> stuff. I’m afraid my own technical knowledge doesn’t go far in the relevant
> areas, but it is clear that we have a problem that needs resolving before
> we can make the Xenith code available to everyone, and it seems to me that
> recent changes have introduced the problem. Ron has done a lot to try and
> isolate the problem, thanks a lot for persisting Ron! ****
>
>  ****
>
> Somehow we need to resolve it. I’m open for ideas on how we can best work
> through it: in an ideal world I’d get Ron to sit with Pat at a computer
> until the problem is cracked, but since that’s not possible, is this
> something we can do online somehow? Anyone got any better ideas?****
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