[Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap

Julian Tenney Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Thu Aug 30 10:37:05 BST 2012


Brill, thanks,

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 30 August 2012 10:37
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap

I am... give me 5 minutes.

David


On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:28, Julian Tenney wrote:

> I know. I'll be blunt - could someone write one?
> 
> ;-)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat 
> Lockley
> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:28
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
> 
> you need a script with read the values from sitedetails and imported 
> it into the ldap table
> 
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade...
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat 
>> Lockley
>> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>> 
>> the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table.
>> 
>> Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the 
>> installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what the 
>> preference is
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> How hard would it be to automate step 4?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron 
>>> Mitchell
>>> Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40
>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A quick update..
>>> 
>>> This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 
>>> install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case
>>> 
>>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't 
>>> need the setup folder)
>>> 
>>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g.
>>> create and test an LO
>>> 
>>> 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the 
>>> sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database
>>> 
>>> 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by 
>>> commenting/un-commenting the relevant line
>>> 
>>> 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an 
>>> automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails 
>>> table to the ldap table?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains 
>>> ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by 
>>> basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I 
>>> can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code.
>>> Should this be removed from basic.sql?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of 
>>> Julian Tenney
>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39
>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat
>>> 
>>> Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to 
>>> get in a mess / screw up their installs.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron 
>>> Mitchell
>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31
>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Julian
>>> 
>>> yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to 
>>> upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have 
>>> the answers to my two questions and especially question 1.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as 
>>> the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should.
>>> Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of 
>>> ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values 
>>> added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table 
>>> but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap'
>>> table.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap 
>>> values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has 
>>> encountered/resolved this too?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of 
>>> Julian Tenney
>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56
>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find 
>>> out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get 
>>> one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain.
>>> Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron 
>>> Mitchell
>>> Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29
>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install 
>>> which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap 
>>> values in site details rather than the separate ldap table.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Upgrade process:
>>> 
>>> drop code over top
>>> 
>>> this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the 
>>> basics work
>>> 
>>> change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting 
>>> the relevant line
>>> 
>>> refresh index.php and try to login via ldap
>>> 
>>> get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB
>>> 
>>> visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not 
>>> saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details
>>> 
>>> try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Questions:
>>> 
>>> 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from 
>>> site_details to ldap table for an existing install?
>>> 
>>> In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the 
>>> intended method?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> 
>>> 
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