From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Aug 1 08:58:22 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:58:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Back / Next Functionlaity In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C12E3CC6C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <001301cd6984$41fd95f0$c5f8c1d0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C12E3CCA3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003401cd6987$13a033e0$3ae09ba0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C12E3CCC1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C12FBD6E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C12FBD7AD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C12FBDB04@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C12FBE203@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <009c01cd6e6e$dbf99fc0$93ecdf40$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C130D98E9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <00cc01cd6f10$285fcfa0$791f6ee0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C130D99F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <014801cd6f25$47d755a0$d78600e0$@co.uk> <017c01cd6f2b$a7b70a00$f7251e00$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C130D9C21@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C130D9CB3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think we have all come to the conclusion that we leave the navigation linear: In a linear LO it works, obviously In Menu, it isn't relevant because there are no back / next buttons In menu with page controls, I think linear works and fits with the mental model people have. So that means that the connectors need to work within this constraint. That is the bottom line. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 31 July 2012 21:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Back / Next Functionlaity One of the things I have been worried about is code dependencies in other models to handle the connectors. I've always been a bit worried about this, but I don't have the detail to know. But it worries me that if a connector changes, you have to change every other model? That's going to be a right PITA if true? The issue with none connector pages is that they don't have any features in them to change the navigation options. All this means is that the only opportunity the project author gets to change the navigation options comes when the user opens or exits a Connector page. So when a Connector page sets navigation e.g. Only have Back and Next buttons, then this situation will endure until it is changed as a result of another Connector page being accessed. The only change that has been made to the none connector pages has been to give them an optional "page ID" attribute, so that Connector pages can find them. If the model for any single one of the connection pages then the only thing it will impact on is that connector page. I don't know where the idea has come from that "If a connector page changes then you have to change every other model. This is one of the problems of communicating by email. It is not always clear that the meaning that has been taken from your communication is the one that you intended to communicate. :-) Kind regards Johnathan On 31 July 2012 17:14, Julian Tenney > wrote: One of the things I have been worried about is code dependencies in other models to handle the connectors. I've always been a bit worried about this, but I don't have the detail to know. But it worries me that if a connector changes, you have to change every other model? That's going to be a right PITA if true? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 31 July 2012 15:49 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Back / Next Functionlaity 1. In that case it sounds like it's better to leave any changes rather than delay release 2. I'm not sure the discussion about making the connector pages more XOT friendly revolved around these specific options but clearly the mailing list correspondence isn't reaching clarity about all the different issues. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 31 July 2012 15:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Back / Next Functionlaity Adding the additional navigation options depends on a couple of issues 1. When the release is going to take place. I am going to have very little time this week to implement the changes and no time at all next week. 2. I don't want to make changes until I feel they have a general consensus behind them. I have already removed the ability to set individual navigation buttons, which was part of the original functionality, in order to make the pages more XOT friendly. To simply replace the functionality now would be to ignore the merit of the discussions that lead to the simplification of the options. Which is why I suggested deferring any further developments until the pages have had a little exposure and we can sit round a table and discuss the various issues the connector pages raise. Unless things have changed as a result of the language developments, it is my understanding that changes to the model and xwd files would automatically pass through to existing XOT projects. So a delay until October should not prevent anyone developing in the meantime. Any changes would be fully backward compatible. Kind regards Johnathan On 31 July 2012 15:03, Ron Mitchell > wrote: Sounds like a good idea! But could the "Back, Next and TOC", "Back and Next only", "Back only", "Next only" options still be added before the meeting - indeed before release? If not so be it but my point and reasons for those option are valid for my planned usage regardless of the history setting. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 31 July 2012 14:46 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Back / Next Functionlaity >How many times do I have to make this point. BUTTONS DO NOT CHANGE THEIR FUNCTION. >OK, I'm going to put the navigation back to linear in all situations. I'm going to leave the rootIcon.setNavigationStyle() method so you can switch it if you want,. I am not trying to be pedantic. I am trying to ensure we are all sharing a common understanding and at the moment I am confused. If I use the setNavigationStyle() method then the back button will change its functioning. So is that OK because it is still a back button. Or is that unacceptable because buttons don't change their function?. Can I make a suggestion? It will be relatively easy at a later date to add additional exit navigation button setting options to the connector pages xwd and model files. I have in an earlier post discussed a workaround that can be used to get the best out of the Connector pages with purely linear navigation. So how about we leave things as they are for now and then discuss this at the forthcoming Xerte meet in October? This will avoid any further delays in the Xerte release, allow a little time for people to try out the Connector pages and give both the Authoring and Developer communities an opportunity to engage with the discussion. All in favour ? Johnathan On 31 July 2012 12:37, Julian Tenney > wrote: Personally I think it should be set at the learning object level so that navigation remains consistent throughout the project. Wouldn't that lead to the confusion and inconsistency Julian is trying to avoid? I would only see this being needed if a connector is used within the project and only then if required for a specific purpose e.g. to go back to the connector rather than linear back. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Fri Aug 3 11:11:04 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:11:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 Release In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322BDAA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322BDAA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'd make a case for saying some of the documentation needs changing, and some of the installer pages On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Hi, > > > > Is anyone aware of any work that needs completing before we can make 1.8 > zip and put it on the website? > > > > Thanks, > > > > J > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From: Tenney Julian Sent: 03 August 2012 11:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: 1.8 Release Hi, Is anyone aware of any work that needs completing before we can make 1.8 zip and put it on the website? Thanks, J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Aug 6 12:01:26 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:01:26 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 Release In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C17A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C17A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <501FA406.1090405@tor.nl> I'll have a look at the export for jMolViewer. That is the only 'showstopper' I am aware of. Tom Op 6-8-2012 11:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Nothing? It's good to go then... > > *From:*Tenney Julian > *Sent:* 03 August 2012 11:10 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* 1.8 Release > > Hi, > > Is anyone aware of any work that needs completing before we can make > 1.8 zip and put it on the website? > > Thanks, > > J > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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From: Tenney Julian Sent: 03 August 2012 11:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: 1.8 Release Hi, Is anyone aware of any work that needs completing before we can make 1.8 zip and put it on the website? Thanks, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Aug 6 19:15:15 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:15:15 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 Release In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C2C3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C17A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <501FA406.1090405@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C2C3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <502009B3.9090107@tor.nl> Either I don't understand the issue (or it is an issue with Xerte standalone), but as far as I can tell, when you use jmol JMolViewer gets exported. So, even if you use the archive .zip, JMolViewer is not exported, when the jmol template is NOT used. Perhpas that is/was the issue. I don't really see the point of exporting it, if it's not used, even in an archive .zip, because whenever you edit the archive in some other xot, or xerte, it gets exported when you add a jmol temple, right? So as far as I can tell, everything works for me. Tom Op 6-8-2012 14:35, Julian Tenney schreef: > > OK, thanks > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 06 August 2012 12:01 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 Release > > I'll have a look at the export for jMolViewer. That is the only > 'showstopper' I am aware of. > > Tom > > Op 6-8-2012 11:55, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Nothing? It's good to go then... > > *From:*Tenney Julian > *Sent:* 03 August 2012 11:10 > *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers' > *Subject:* 1.8 Release > > Hi, > > Is anyone aware of any work that needs completing before we can > make 1.8 zip and put it on the website? > > Thanks, > > J > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Aug 6 23:20:31 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:20:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 Release In-Reply-To: <502009B3.9090107@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C17A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <501FA406.1090405@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C2C3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, <502009B3.9090107@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C12AFB3C9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think i was asking the question, rather than saying it was an issue. Thanks for checking it out ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl] Sent: 06 August 2012 19:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 Release Either I don't understand the issue (or it is an issue with Xerte standalone), but as far as I can tell, when you use jmol JMolViewer gets exported. So, even if you use the archive .zip, JMolViewer is not exported, when the jmol template is NOT used. Perhpas that is/was the issue. I don't really see the point of exporting it, if it's not used, even in an archive .zip, because whenever you edit the archive in some other xot, or xerte, it gets exported when you add a jmol temple, right? So as far as I can tell, everything works for me. Tom Op 6-8-2012 14:35, Julian Tenney schreef: OK, thanks From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 06 August 2012 12:01 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.8 Release I'll have a look at the export for jMolViewer. That is the only 'showstopper' I am aware of. Tom Op 6-8-2012 11:55, Julian Tenney schreef: Nothing? It?s good to go then? From: Tenney Julian Sent: 03 August 2012 11:10 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: 1.8 Release Hi, Is anyone aware of any work that needs completing before we can make 1.8 zip and put it on the website? Thanks, J This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Aug 7 15:33:40 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 15:33:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte Standalone Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hi, Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting straight before it can be released and uploaded to the website: the .xtp needs making with the new models and fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new page wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs building. I may have missed things... was anything else in need of finishing off? Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we can bring the standalone version up to date on the website too, Thanks, Julian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Aug 7 15:59:51 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:59:51 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the Nottingham template do we? And for all the other .xtp files it will just work. In the pages menu you can create an old style Template project from the current new models. 2. I thought icons were done. 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch language files. Then you only need to adapt that for your build paths and you can create the setup.exe, or you can use my inno setup file (it is in svn) and adapt that. Tom Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Hi, > > Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting straight before > it can be released and uploaded to the website: the .xtp needs making > with the new models and fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for > the new page wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs building. I > may have missed things... was anything else in need of finishing off? > > Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we can bring > the standalone version up to date on the website too, > > Thanks, > > Julian > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Aug 7 16:02:27 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:02:27 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone In-Reply-To: <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it (how do I do that?) and zipping up with all the new / updated models. The icons aren't finished on the page wizards menus, unless I'm mistaken? I'm happy to build it if you want me to? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 August 2012 16:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the Nottingham template do we? And for all the other .xtp files it will just work. In the pages menu you can create an old style Template project from the current new models. 2. I thought icons were done. 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch language files. Then you only need to adapt that for your build paths and you can create the setup.exe, or you can use my inno setup file (it is in svn) and adapt that. Tom Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Hi, Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting straight before it can be released and uploaded to the website: the .xtp needs making with the new models and fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new page wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs building. I may have missed things... was anything else in need of finishing off? Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we can bring the standalone version up to date on the website too, Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Aug 7 16:31:22 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:31:22 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> 1. The .xwd is in the pages folder in en-GB in svn. Jonathan and I rebuilt it when we edit a .xwd. I'll provide instruction somewhere. My point is, you don't need the .xtp at all. You can create a new 'old style' template project from the pages menu. 2. I'll have a look and if needed, finish that up a.s.a.p. 3. I think that for the time being, the 'official' builds should be done in Nottingham, until I figured out some automatic way to do it on the community webserver. Tom Op 7-8-2012 17:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it (how do I do > that?) and zipping up with all the new / updated models. > > The icons aren't finished on the page wizards menus, unless I'm mistaken? > > I'm happy to build it if you want me to? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:00 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the Nottingham > template do we? And for all the other .xtp files it will just work. > In the pages menu you can create an old style Template project from > the current new models. > > 2. I thought icons were done. > > 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch language > files. Then you only need to adapt that for your build paths and you > can create the setup.exe, or you can use my inno setup file (it is in > svn) and adapt that. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Hi, > > Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting straight > before it can be released and uploaded to the website: the .xtp > needs making with the new models and fresh .xwd files, the icons > need adding in for the new page wizards on the menus, and the > setup.exe needs building. I may have missed things... was anything > else in need of finishing off? > > Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we can > bring the standalone version up to date on the website too, > > Thanks, > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Aug 7 16:32:21 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:32:21 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone In-Reply-To: <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C821@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> So the whole .xtp thing is now defunct? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 August 2012 16:31 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone 1. The .xwd is in the pages folder in en-GB in svn. Jonathan and I rebuilt it when we edit a .xwd. I'll provide instruction somewhere. My point is, you don't need the .xtp at all. You can create a new 'old style' template project from the pages menu. 2. I'll have a look and if needed, finish that up a.s.a.p. 3. I think that for the time being, the 'official' builds should be done in Nottingham, until I figured out some automatic way to do it on the community webserver. Tom Op 7-8-2012 17:02, Julian Tenney schreef: The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it (how do I do that?) and zipping up with all the new / updated models. The icons aren't finished on the page wizards menus, unless I'm mistaken? I'm happy to build it if you want me to? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 August 2012 16:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the Nottingham template do we? And for all the other .xtp files it will just work. In the pages menu you can create an old style Template project from the current new models. 2. I thought icons were done. 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch language files. Then you only need to adapt that for your build paths and you can create the setup.exe, or you can use my inno setup file (it is in svn) and adapt that. Tom Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Hi, Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting straight before it can be released and uploaded to the website: the .xtp needs making with the new models and fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new page wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs building. I may have missed things... was anything else in need of finishing off? Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we can bring the standalone version up to date on the website too, Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Aug 7 16:34:45 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:34:45 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C821@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C821@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <50213595.6030300@tor.nl> As far as I am concerned, at least for the current Nottingham templates... I left it in for the other templates. Op 7-8-2012 17:32, Julian Tenney schreef: > > So the whole .xtp thing is now defunct? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:31 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > 1. The .xwd is in the pages folder in en-GB in svn. Jonathan and I > rebuilt it when we edit a .xwd. I'll provide instruction somewhere. > My point is, you don't need the .xtp at all. You can create a new 'old > style' template project from the pages menu. > > 2. I'll have a look and if needed, finish that up a.s.a.p. > > 3. I think that for the time being, the 'official' builds should be > done in Nottingham, until I figured out some automatic way to do it on > the community webserver. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 17:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it (how do I > do that?) and zipping up with all the new / updated models. > > The icons aren't finished on the page wizards menus, unless I'm > mistaken? > > I'm happy to build it if you want me to? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:00 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the Nottingham > template do we? And for all the other .xtp files it will just work. > In the pages menu you can create an old style Template project > from the current new models. > > 2. I thought icons were done. > > 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch language > files. Then you only need to adapt that for your build paths and > you can create the setup.exe, or you can use my inno setup file > (it is in svn) and adapt that. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Hi, > > Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting > straight before it can be released and uploaded to the > website: the .xtp needs making with the new models and fresh > .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new page wizards > on the menus, and the setup.exe needs building. I may have > missed things... was anything else in need of finishing off? > > Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we can > bring the standalone version up to date on the website too, > > Thanks, > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you > have received this message in error, please send it back to > me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of > this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of > an attachment may still contain software viruses which could > damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your > own checks. Email communications with the University of > Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > Tom Reijnders > > TOR Informatica > > Chopinlaan 27 > > 5242HM Rosmalen > > Tel: 073 5226191 > > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xerte-dev mailing list > > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Aug 7 16:35:56 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 16:35:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone In-Reply-To: <50213595.6030300@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C821@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50213595.6030300@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C82A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> The other templates have all been integrated into the main Nottingham template now... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 August 2012 16:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone As far as I am concerned, at least for the current Nottingham templates... I left it in for the other templates. Op 7-8-2012 17:32, Julian Tenney schreef: So the whole .xtp thing is now defunct? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 August 2012 16:31 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone 1. The .xwd is in the pages folder in en-GB in svn. Jonathan and I rebuilt it when we edit a .xwd. I'll provide instruction somewhere. My point is, you don't need the .xtp at all. You can create a new 'old style' template project from the pages menu. 2. I'll have a look and if needed, finish that up a.s.a.p. 3. I think that for the time being, the 'official' builds should be done in Nottingham, until I figured out some automatic way to do it on the community webserver. Tom Op 7-8-2012 17:02, Julian Tenney schreef: The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it (how do I do that?) and zipping up with all the new / updated models. The icons aren't finished on the page wizards menus, unless I'm mistaken? I'm happy to build it if you want me to? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 August 2012 16:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the Nottingham template do we? And for all the other .xtp files it will just work. In the pages menu you can create an old style Template project from the current new models. 2. I thought icons were done. 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch language files. Then you only need to adapt that for your build paths and you can create the setup.exe, or you can use my inno setup file (it is in svn) and adapt that. Tom Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Hi, Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting straight before it can be released and uploaded to the website: the .xtp needs making with the new models and fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new page wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs building. I may have missed things... was anything else in need of finishing off? Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we can bring the standalone version up to date on the website too, Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Aug 8 11:33:27 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 12:33:27 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C82A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C821@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50213595.6030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C82A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <50224077.4030406@tor.nl> Julian, Status: 1. I know why the pages didn't have an icon. I used an older version of the editor, that didn't have all the icons. The latest editor from svn has most of them. I am only missing an icon for misc/Index changer (indexChanger.xwd) but that is also because it has no icon assigned to it in the .xwd file. 2. The runtime/pages/template.xml is NOT empty, so when I build a new setup-beta.exe from svn and create a template project, it is already filled. (is that on purpose, or should I package a different template.xml?) 3. Should we remove the template menu then.... 4. I added 2 batch files, one in inno and one in runtime\pages that will generate a new template.xwd for the en-GB wizards. Both do the same and only differ in paths. You can just double-click on them... So: a. We (you) need to decide what to do with the icon of indexChanger.xwd b. either make an empty template.xml or make sure we have a different empty template.xml that is packaged. c. decide on 3. Tom Op 7-8-2012 17:35, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The other templates have all been integrated into the main Nottingham > template now... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > As far as I am concerned, at least for the current Nottingham > templates... I left it in for the other templates. > > Op 7-8-2012 17:32, Julian Tenney schreef: > > So the whole .xtp thing is now defunct? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:31 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > 1. The .xwd is in the pages folder in en-GB in svn. Jonathan and I > rebuilt it when we edit a .xwd. I'll provide instruction somewhere. > My point is, you don't need the .xtp at all. You can create a new > 'old style' template project from the pages menu. > > 2. I'll have a look and if needed, finish that up a.s.a.p. > > 3. I think that for the time being, the 'official' builds should > be done in Nottingham, until I figured out some automatic way to > do it on the community webserver. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 17:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it (how > do I do that?) and zipping up with all the new / updated models. > > The icons aren't finished on the page wizards menus, unless > I'm mistaken? > > I'm happy to build it if you want me to? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf > Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:00 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the > Nottingham template do we? And for all the other .xtp files it > will just work. > In the pages menu you can create an old style Template project > from the current new models. > > 2. I thought icons were done. > > 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch > language files. Then you only need to adapt that for your > build paths and you can create the setup.exe, or you can use > my inno setup file (it is in svn) and adapt that. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Hi, > > Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting > straight before it can be released and uploaded to the > website: the .xtp needs making with the new models and > fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new > page wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs > building. I may have missed things... was anything else in > need of finishing off? > > Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we > can bring the standalone version up to date on the > website too, > > Thanks, > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for > the addressee and may contain confidential information. If > you have received this message in error, please send it > back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy or disclose the information contained in this message > or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the > views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents > of an attachment may still contain software viruses which > could damage your computer system: you are advised to > perform your own checks. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Aug 8 11:41:11 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 11:41:11 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone In-Reply-To: <50224077.4030406@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C821@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50213595.6030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C82A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50224077.4030406@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336B9DA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> 1. I don't really know what indexChanger dos, so I don't know what sort of icon it needs, but if you know what it does, select an icon from the famfamfam set, or just use the plain page icon? 2. It should be empty I guess! 3. I think there is still some sense in having the xtp based approach, it's simpler for those who don't want to mix up xerte and templates stuff, but it might be confusing having all these different ways of making template based stuff? 4. Thanks, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 08 August 2012 11:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone Julian, Status: 1. I know why the pages didn't have an icon. I used an older version of the editor, that didn't have all the icons. The latest editor from svn has most of them. I am only missing an icon for misc/Index changer (indexChanger.xwd) but that is also because it has no icon assigned to it in the .xwd file. 2. The runtime/pages/template.xml is NOT empty, so when I build a new setup-beta.exe from svn and create a template project, it is already filled. (is that on purpose, or should I package a different template.xml?) 3. Should we remove the template menu then.... 4. I added 2 batch files, one in inno and one in runtime\pages that will generate a new template.xwd for the en-GB wizards. Both do the same and only differ in paths. You can just double-click on them... So: a. We (you) need to decide what to do with the icon of indexChanger.xwd b. either make an empty template.xml or make sure we have a different empty template.xml that is packaged. c. decide on 3. Tom Op 7-8-2012 17:35, Julian Tenney schreef: The other templates have all been integrated into the main Nottingham template now... From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 August 2012 16:35 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone As far as I am concerned, at least for the current Nottingham templates... I left it in for the other templates. Op 7-8-2012 17:32, Julian Tenney schreef: So the whole .xtp thing is now defunct? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 August 2012 16:31 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone 1. The .xwd is in the pages folder in en-GB in svn. Jonathan and I rebuilt it when we edit a .xwd. I'll provide instruction somewhere. My point is, you don't need the .xtp at all. You can create a new 'old style' template project from the pages menu. 2. I'll have a look and if needed, finish that up a.s.a.p. 3. I think that for the time being, the 'official' builds should be done in Nottingham, until I figured out some automatic way to do it on the community webserver. Tom Op 7-8-2012 17:02, Julian Tenney schreef: The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it (how do I do that?) and zipping up with all the new / updated models. The icons aren't finished on the page wizards menus, unless I'm mistaken? I'm happy to build it if you want me to? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 07 August 2012 16:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the Nottingham template do we? And for all the other .xtp files it will just work. In the pages menu you can create an old style Template project from the current new models. 2. I thought icons were done. 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch language files. Then you only need to adapt that for your build paths and you can create the setup.exe, or you can use my inno setup file (it is in svn) and adapt that. Tom Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: Hi, Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting straight before it can be released and uploaded to the website: the .xtp needs making with the new models and fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new page wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs building. I may have missed things... was anything else in need of finishing off? Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we can bring the standalone version up to date on the website too, Thanks, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Aug 8 11:51:48 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 12:51:48 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] icon for indexChanger.xwd (was Xerte Standalone) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336B9DA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C821@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50213595.6030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C82A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50224077.4030406@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336B9DA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <502244C4.2070403@tor.nl> Johnathan, Do you have an appropriate icon for this (see 1. below). Don't know what it does either. Tom Op 8-8-2012 12:41, Julian Tenney schreef: > > 1.I don't really know what indexChanger dos, so I don't know what sort > of icon it needs, but if you know what it does, select an icon from > the famfamfam set, or just use the plain page icon? > > 2.It should be empty I guess! > > 3.I think there is still some sense in having the xtp based approach, > it's simpler for those who don't want to mix up xerte and templates > stuff, but it might be confusing having all these different ways of > making template based stuff? > > 4.Thanks, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 08 August 2012 11:33 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > Julian, > > Status: > > 1. I know why the pages didn't have an icon. I used an older version > of the editor, that didn't have all the icons. The latest editor from > svn has most of them. I am only missing an icon for misc/Index changer > (indexChanger.xwd) but that is also because it has no icon assigned to > it in the .xwd file. > > 2. The runtime/pages/template.xml is NOT empty, so when I build a new > setup-beta.exe from svn and create a template project, it is already > filled. (is that on purpose, or should I package a different > template.xml?) > > 3. Should we remove the template menu then.... > > 4. I added 2 batch files, one in inno and one in runtime\pages that > will generate a new template.xwd for the en-GB wizards. Both do the > same and only differ in paths. You can just double-click on them... > > So: > a. We (you) need to decide what to do with the icon of indexChanger.xwd > b. either make an empty template.xml or make sure we have a different > empty template.xml that is packaged. > c. decide on 3. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 17:35, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The other templates have all been integrated into the main > Nottingham template now... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > As far as I am concerned, at least for the current Nottingham > templates... I left it in for the other templates. > > Op 7-8-2012 17:32, Julian Tenney schreef: > > So the whole .xtp thing is now defunct? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf > Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:31 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > 1. The .xwd is in the pages folder in en-GB in svn. Jonathan > and I rebuilt it when we edit a .xwd. I'll provide instruction > somewhere. > My point is, you don't need the .xtp at all. You can create a > new 'old style' template project from the pages menu. > > 2. I'll have a look and if needed, finish that up a.s.a.p. > > 3. I think that for the time being, the 'official' builds > should be done in Nottingham, until I figured out some > automatic way to do it on the community webserver. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 17:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it > (how do I do that?) and zipping up with all the new / > updated models. > > The icons aren't finished on the page wizards menus, > unless I'm mistaken? > > I'm happy to build it if you want me to? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On > Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:00 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the > Nottingham template do we? And for all the other .xtp > files it will just work. > In the pages menu you can create an old style Template > project from the current new models. > > 2. I thought icons were done. > > 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch > language files. Then you only need to adapt that for your > build paths and you can create the setup.exe, or you can > use my inno setup file (it is in svn) and adapt that. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Hi, > > Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting > straight before it can be released and uploaded to the > website: the .xtp needs making with the new models and > fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new > page wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs > building. I may have missed things... was anything > else in need of finishing off? > > Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then > we can bring the standalone version up to date on the > website too, > > Thanks, > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely > for the addressee and may contain confidential > information. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Aug 8 12:00:46 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:00:46 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336B9DA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C821@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50213595.6030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C82A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50224077.4030406@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336B9DA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <502246DE.2010601@tor.nl> 2. is done and committed I'll upload the latest setup-beta.exe in a minute. Tom Op 8-8-2012 12:41, Julian Tenney schreef: > > 1.I don't really know what indexChanger dos, so I don't know what sort > of icon it needs, but if you know what it does, select an icon from > the famfamfam set, or just use the plain page icon? > > 2.It should be empty I guess! > > 3.I think there is still some sense in having the xtp based approach, > it's simpler for those who don't want to mix up xerte and templates > stuff, but it might be confusing having all these different ways of > making template based stuff? > > 4.Thanks, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 08 August 2012 11:33 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > Julian, > > Status: > > 1. I know why the pages didn't have an icon. I used an older version > of the editor, that didn't have all the icons. The latest editor from > svn has most of them. I am only missing an icon for misc/Index changer > (indexChanger.xwd) but that is also because it has no icon assigned to > it in the .xwd file. > > 2. The runtime/pages/template.xml is NOT empty, so when I build a new > setup-beta.exe from svn and create a template project, it is already > filled. (is that on purpose, or should I package a different > template.xml?) > > 3. Should we remove the template menu then.... > > 4. I added 2 batch files, one in inno and one in runtime\pages that > will generate a new template.xwd for the en-GB wizards. Both do the > same and only differ in paths. You can just double-click on them... > > So: > a. We (you) need to decide what to do with the icon of indexChanger.xwd > b. either make an empty template.xml or make sure we have a different > empty template.xml that is packaged. > c. decide on 3. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 17:35, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The other templates have all been integrated into the main > Nottingham template now... > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of > *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > As far as I am concerned, at least for the current Nottingham > templates... I left it in for the other templates. > > Op 7-8-2012 17:32, Julian Tenney schreef: > > So the whole .xtp thing is now defunct? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf > Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:31 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > 1. The .xwd is in the pages folder in en-GB in svn. Jonathan > and I rebuilt it when we edit a .xwd. I'll provide instruction > somewhere. > My point is, you don't need the .xtp at all. You can create a > new 'old style' template project from the pages menu. > > 2. I'll have a look and if needed, finish that up a.s.a.p. > > 3. I think that for the time being, the 'official' builds > should be done in Nottingham, until I figured out some > automatic way to do it on the community webserver. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 17:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it > (how do I do that?) and zipping up with all the new / > updated models. > > The icons aren't finished on the page wizards menus, > unless I'm mistaken? > > I'm happy to build it if you want me to? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On > Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:00 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the > Nottingham template do we? And for all the other .xtp > files it will just work. > In the pages menu you can create an old style Template > project from the current new models. > > 2. I thought icons were done. > > 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch > language files. Then you only need to adapt that for your > build paths and you can create the setup.exe, or you can > use my inno setup file (it is in svn) and adapt that. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Hi, > > Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting > straight before it can be released and uploaded to the > website: the .xtp needs making with the new models and > fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new > page wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs > building. I may have missed things... was anything > else in need of finishing off? > > Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then > we can bring the standalone version up to date on the > website too, > > Thanks, > > Julian > > This message and any attachment are intended solely > for the addressee and may contain confidential > information. 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Upgrade process: drop code over top this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics work change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line refresh index.php and try to login via ldap get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade Questions: 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from site_details to ldap table for an existing install? In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the intended method? 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Julian From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap Hi all I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. Upgrade process: drop code over top this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics work change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line refresh index.php and try to login via ldap get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade Questions: 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from site_details to ldap table for an existing install? In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the intended method? 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? Cheers Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Thu Aug 9 10:31:26 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:31:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> Hi Julian yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' table. What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has encountered/resolved this too? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? Thanks, Julian From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap Hi all I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. Upgrade process: drop code over top this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics work change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line refresh index.php and try to login via ldap get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade Questions: 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from site_details to ldap table for an existing install? In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the intended method? 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Aug 9 10:39:14 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:39:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > I guess these are questions for David or Pat Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to get in a mess / screw up their installs. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap Hi Julian yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' table. What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has encountered/resolved this too? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? Thanks, Julian From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap Hi all I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. Upgrade process: drop code over top this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics work change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line refresh index.php and try to login via ldap get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade Questions: 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from site_details to ldap table for an existing install? In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the intended method? 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap Hi Julian yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' table. What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has encountered/resolved this too? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? Thanks, Julian From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap Hi all I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. Upgrade process: drop code over top this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics work change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line refresh index.php and try to login via ldap get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade Questions: 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from site_details to ldap table for an existing install? In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the intended method? 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Fri Aug 10 09:39:36 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:39:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> A quick update.. This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 1. backup existing database and directory just in case 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the setup folder) 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. create and test an LO 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails table to the ldap table? The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. Should this be removed from basic.sql? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > I guess these are questions for David or Pat Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to get in a mess / screw up their installs. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap Hi Julian yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' table. What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has encountered/resolved this too? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? Thanks, Julian From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap Hi all I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. Upgrade process: drop code over top this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics work change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line refresh index.php and try to login via ldap get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade Questions: 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from site_details to ldap table for an existing install? In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the intended method? 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Sun Aug 12 08:40:08 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 08:40:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: icon for indexChanger.xwd (was Xerte Standalone) In-Reply-To: <502244C4.2070403@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C79F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50212D67.80201@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C7DD@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <502134CA.2030609@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C821@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50213595.6030300@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1322C82A@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50224077.4030406@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336B9DA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <502244C4.2070403@tor.nl> Message-ID: Hello Tom, Just back from a week in Paignton and now attending a two day board game convention so this is a quick reply as I try to catch up with all my email. The index changer page is only applicable to Xerte desktop. It is based on the mcq page and allows the Author to present a question to the Student. The index value of the option selected i.e. first option = 0, second option = 1, etc. Is used to set the value of rootIcon.projectPageIndex. When a page opens rooticon.projectPageIndex is used to set projPI. This allows the Author to define more than one data definition for a page and the Learner is presented with the data set indexed by projPI. So for example you could have a project that compared historic time periods Page 1 = title page Page 2 = index changer - select your century - options century A, century B, century C Page 3 = Key events of the century [century A, century B, century C] Page 4 = Key figures of the century [century A, century B, century C] etc. The learner would select the century at page 2 then as they progressed to page 3, 4 etc, they would see the data related to that century. This works with all page types. If the index is set to a value greater than 0 and a page does not have data defined for that index value, then for that page projPI defaults to 0. I am not familiar with the famfamfam set but I am happy for you to select whatever icon you feel is appropriate. I need to produce an example and some documentation to show how the index changer can be used since it is a new concept to Xerte. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 August 2012 11:51, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Johnathan, > > Do you have an appropriate icon for this (see 1. below). Don't know what > it does either. > > Tom > > Op 8-8-2012 12:41, Julian Tenney schreef: > > 1. I don?t really know what indexChanger dos, so I don?t know what > sort of icon it needs, but if you know what it does, select an icon from > the famfamfam set, or just use the plain page icon? > > > > 2. It should be empty I guess! > > > > 3. I think there is still some sense in having the xtp based > approach, it?s simpler for those who don?t want to mix up xerte and > templates stuff, but it might be confusing having all these different ways > of making template based stuff? > > > > 4. Thanks, > > > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 08 August 2012 11:33 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > > > Julian, > > Status: > > 1. I know why the pages didn't have an icon. I used an older version of > the editor, that didn't have all the icons. The latest editor from svn has > most of them. I am only missing an icon for misc/Index changer > (indexChanger.xwd) but that is also because it has no icon assigned to it > in the .xwd file. > > 2. The runtime/pages/template.xml is NOT empty, so when I build a new > setup-beta.exe from svn and create a template project, it is already > filled. (is that on purpose, or should I package a different template.xml?) > > 3. Should we remove the template menu then.... > > 4. I added 2 batch files, one in inno and one in runtime\pages that will > generate a new template.xwd for the en-GB wizards. Both do the same and > only differ in paths. You can just double-click on them... > > So: > a. We (you) need to decide what to do with the icon of indexChanger.xwd > b. either make an empty template.xml or make sure we have a different > empty template.xml that is packaged. > c. decide on 3. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 17:35, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The other templates have all been integrated into the main Nottingham > template now? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:35 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > > > As far as I am concerned, at least for the current Nottingham templates... > I left it in for the other templates. > > Op 7-8-2012 17:32, Julian Tenney schreef: > > So the whole .xtp thing is now defunct? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:31 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > > > 1. The .xwd is in the pages folder in en-GB in svn. Jonathan and I rebuilt > it when we edit a .xwd. I'll provide instruction somewhere. > My point is, you don't need the .xtp at all. You can create a new 'old > style' template project from the pages menu. > > 2. I'll have a look and if needed, finish that up a.s.a.p. > > 3. I think that for the time being, the 'official' builds should be done > in Nottingham, until I figured out some automatic way to do it on the > community webserver. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 17:02, Julian Tenney schreef: > > The .xtp needs the new and up to date .xwd making for it (how do I do > that?) and zipping up with all the new / updated models. > > > > The icons aren?t finished on the page wizards menus, unless I?m mistaken? > > > > I?m happy to build it if you want me to? > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] > *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders > *Sent:* 07 August 2012 16:00 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte Standalone > > > > 1. .xtp? Ehmm... we can, but we don't need to for the Nottingham template > do we? And for all the other .xtp files it will just work. > In the pages menu you can create an old style Template project from the > current new models. > > 2. I thought icons were done. > > 3. I can create a new inno file for you without the Dutch language files. > Then you only need to adapt that for your build paths and you can create > the setup.exe, or you can use my inno setup file (it is in svn) and adapt > that. > > Tom > > Op 7-8-2012 16:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Hi, > > > > Xerte Standalone needs some outstanding things putting straight before it > can be released and uploaded to the website: the .xtp needs making with the > new models and fresh .xwd files, the icons need adding in for the new page > wizards on the menus, and the setup.exe needs building. I may have missed > things? was anything else in need of finishing off? > > > > Can we attend to these outstanding things please? Then we can bring the > standalone version up to date on the website too, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julian > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. 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An indication of how long you might need would also be useful, It would be good if you all register so that when we announce the event more widely, people will see that folk are interested! J From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 14 August 2012 11:04 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meeting in October Hello Julian, I am happy to show people the connector pages. Will this be on day 1 for the Author community? How much time do you want me to take up - so I can plan my presentation? Hope you had a wonderful break. Kind regards Johnathan On 8 August 2012 15:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: Hiya, I've decided to call the meeting we have in October "The second Xerte Project Annual General Meeting", and have set up an eventbrite page to handle the registration: you guys can register now! Also, please pipe up with any comments before I publicise (with your help!) more widely. http://xerteprojectagm.eventbrite.co.uk I'm hoping you'll all be able to contribute to the first day with demos of the recent work, so Johnathan, could you show the connectors, maybe Ron could do an overview of all the new templates, Alistair has said he will talk about accessibility, Tom, could you cover off internationalisation, and Fay can demo Xenith. Pat, are you coming along? Maybe you can help with the internationalisation stuff? Is that OK? Plans still a little embryonic, but good to start to publicise it, Julian This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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An indication of how > long you might need would also be useful, > > > > It would be good if you all register so that when we announce the event more > widely, people will see that folk are interested! > > > > J > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 14 August 2012 11:04 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meeting in October > > > > Hello Julian, > > > > I am happy to show people the connector pages. > > > > Will this be on day 1 for the Author community? > > > > How much time do you want me to take up - so I can plan my presentation? > > > > Hope you had a wonderful break. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 8 August 2012 15:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hiya, > > > > I?ve decided to call the meeting we have in October ?The second Xerte > Project Annual General Meeting?, and have set up an eventbrite page to > handle the registration: you guys can register now! Also, please pipe up > with any comments before I publicise (with your help!) more widely. > > > > http://xerteprojectagm.eventbrite.co.uk > > > > I?m hoping you?ll all be able to contribute to the first day with demos of > the recent work, so Johnathan, could you show the connectors, maybe Ron > could do an overview of all the new templates, Alistair has said he will > talk about accessibility, Tom, could you cover off internationalisation, and > Fay can demo Xenith. > > > > Pat, are you coming along? Maybe you can help with the internationalisation > stuff? > > > > Is that OK? Plans still a little embryonic, but good to start to publicise > it, > > > > Julian > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Aug 28 14:12:10 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:12:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meeting in October In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BB62@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D446@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D498@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK. 4 so far: me, Johnathan, Ron and Thomas, but we haven't publicised it yet. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 28 August 2012 14:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meeting in October Am not sure if I'll come as of yet, so I wouldn't have me down to present. Any idea of numbers signed up? On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Not sure yet, we need to firm up the arrangements / schedule. How long > would you want? > > > > Are the rest of you alright to show your stuff as well? An indication > of how long you might need would also be useful, > > > > It would be good if you all register so that when we announce the > event more widely, people will see that folk are interested! > > > > J > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 14 August 2012 11:04 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meeting in October > > > > Hello Julian, > > > > I am happy to show people the connector pages. > > > > Will this be on day 1 for the Author community? > > > > How much time do you want me to take up - so I can plan my presentation? > > > > Hope you had a wonderful break. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 8 August 2012 15:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Hiya, > > > > I've decided to call the meeting we have in October "The second Xerte > Project Annual General Meeting", and have set up an eventbrite page to > handle the registration: you guys can register now! Also, please pipe > up with any comments before I publicise (with your help!) more widely. > > > > http://xerteprojectagm.eventbrite.co.uk > > > > I'm hoping you'll all be able to contribute to the first day with > demos of the recent work, so Johnathan, could you show the connectors, > maybe Ron could do an overview of all the new templates, Alistair has > said he will talk about accessibility, Tom, could you cover off > internationalisation, and Fay can demo Xenith. > > > > Pat, are you coming along? Maybe you can help with the > internationalisation stuff? > > > > Is that OK? Plans still a little embryonic, but good to start to > publicise it, > > > > Julian > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Aug 28 16:21:07 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:21:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] setup.iss Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D5B7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Question for Tom: I'm modifying setup-beta-pctom.iss to make a definitive iss file for inno. I've replaced all the apths with relative paths, so we can compile on any machine. I don't understand the ;modularisation additions section: which files shuold be included? I can't find ../generated in the svn, scripts and php are OK, all the other lines are commented out: how should it be? [cid:image001.png at 01CD8539.211692D0] Thanks, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Tom (and Inge) Op 28-8-2012 15:12, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK. > > 4 so far: me, Johnathan, Ron and Thomas, but we haven't publicised it yet. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 28 August 2012 14:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meeting in October > > Am not sure if I'll come as of yet, so I wouldn't have me down to present. > > Any idea of numbers signed up? > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> Not sure yet, we need to firm up the arrangements / schedule. How long >> would you want? >> >> >> >> Are the rest of you alright to show your stuff as well? An indication >> of how long you might need would also be useful, >> >> >> >> It would be good if you all register so that when we announce the >> event more widely, people will see that folk are interested! >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 14 August 2012 11:04 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meeting in October >> >> >> >> Hello Julian, >> >> >> >> I am happy to show people the connector pages. >> >> >> >> Will this be on day 1 for the Author community? >> >> >> >> How much time do you want me to take up - so I can plan my presentation? >> >> >> >> Hope you had a wonderful break. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 8 August 2012 15:19, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Hiya, >> >> >> >> I've decided to call the meeting we have in October "The second Xerte >> Project Annual General Meeting", and have set up an eventbrite page to >> handle the registration: you guys can register now! Also, please pipe >> up with any comments before I publicise (with your help!) more widely. >> >> >> >> http://xerteprojectagm.eventbrite.co.uk >> >> >> >> I'm hoping you'll all be able to contribute to the first day with >> demos of the recent work, so Johnathan, could you show the connectors, >> maybe Ron could do an overview of all the new templates, Alistair has >> said he will talk about accessibility, Tom, could you cover off >> internationalisation, and Fay can demo Xenith. >> >> >> >> Pat, are you coming along? Maybe you can help with the >> internationalisation stuff? >> >> >> >> Is that OK? Plans still a little embryonic, but good to start to >> publicise it, >> >> >> >> Julian >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Aug 28 20:50:35 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:50:35 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: setup.iss In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D5B7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8D5B7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <503D210B.5080407@tor.nl> The 'generated' parts come from xertetrans in my local setup. As far as I am concerned, in the 2.18 release I wouldn't bother with the translated .xwds. So, for the official setup, just skip it. I intend to publish (automatically) translations of the .xwds and the xot through the community website. Tom Op 28-8-2012 17:21, Julian Tenney schreef: > > Question for Tom: > > I'm modifying setup-beta-pctom.iss to make a definitive iss file for inno. > > I've replaced all the apths with relative paths, so we can compile on > any machine. > > I don't understand the ;modularisation additions section: which files > shuold be included? > > I can't find ../generated in the svn, scripts and php are OK, all the > other lines are commented out: how should it be? > > Thanks, > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. 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We are trying to bring along key players on the consumer side of things. (Our Norwegian and Belgian friends) Nothing definite yet. Tom (and Inge) Op 28-8-2012 15:12, Julian Tenney schreef: > OK. > > 4 so far: me, Johnathan, Ron and Thomas, but we haven't publicised it yet. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 28 August 2012 14:05 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meeting in October > > Am not sure if I'll come as of yet, so I wouldn't have me down to present. > > Any idea of numbers signed up? > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> Not sure yet, we need to firm up the arrangements / schedule. How >> long would you want? >> >> >> >> Are the rest of you alright to show your stuff as well? An indication >> of how long you might need would also be useful, >> >> >> >> It would be good if you all register so that when we announce the >> event more widely, people will see that folk are interested! >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 14 August 2012 11:04 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Meeting in October >> >> >> >> Hello Julian, >> >> >> >> I am happy to show people the connector pages. >> >> >> >> Will this be on day 1 for the Author community? >> >> >> >> How much time do you want me to take up - so I can plan my presentation? >> >> >> >> Hope you had a wonderful break. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 8 August 2012 15:19, Julian Tenney >> >> wrote: >> >> Hiya, >> >> >> >> I've decided to call the meeting we have in October "The second Xerte >> Project Annual General Meeting", and have set up an eventbrite page >> to handle the registration: you guys can register now! Also, please >> pipe up with any comments before I publicise (with your help!) more widely. >> >> >> >> http://xerteprojectagm.eventbrite.co.uk >> >> >> >> I'm hoping you'll all be able to contribute to the first day with >> demos of the recent work, so Johnathan, could you show the >> connectors, maybe Ron could do an overview of all the new templates, >> Alistair has said he will talk about accessibility, Tom, could you >> cover off internationalisation, and Fay can demo Xenith. >> >> >> >> Pat, are you coming along? Maybe you can help with the >> internationalisation stuff? >> >> >> >> Is that OK? Plans still a little embryonic, but good to start to >> publicise it, >> >> >> >> Julian >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. 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Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Aug 29 12:47:09 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:47:09 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] language option only shows when not logged in Message-ID: <011101cd85dc$064be970$12e3bc50$@co.uk> Hi all I think this was raised previously but I can't find it with a quick search so starting a new thread... At the moment as far as I can see the set language option (dropdown) only shows when not logged in e.g. if guest or moodle authentication is enabled the user never sees the option to change the language. Shouldn't the option show continuously or at least when logged in as well as when not logged in? I suspect this is just a case of moving sections of code around in index.php but not sure what/where? Would be good to get this changed and in place before the event in October. Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Aug 29 12:47:53 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:47:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in In-Reply-To: <011101cd85dc$064be970$12e3bc50$@co.uk> References: <011101cd85dc$064be970$12e3bc50$@co.uk> Message-ID: If you change the language you'd need to refresh the entire page? Wouldn't it make more sense for moodle auth to use a moodle language var? On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi all > > I think this was raised previously but I can't find it with a quick search > so starting a new thread... > > > > At the moment as far as I can see the set language option (dropdown) only > shows when not logged in e.g. if guest or moodle authentication is enabled > the user never sees the option to change the language. Shouldn't the option > show continuously or at least when logged in as well as when not logged in? > > > > I suspect this is just a case of moving sections of code around in index.php > but not sure what/where? > > > > Would be good to get this changed and in place before the event in October. > > > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Aug 29 13:07:07 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:07:07 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in In-Reply-To: References: <011101cd85dc$064be970$12e3bc50$@co.uk> Message-ID: <012f01cd85de$d0b9bdc0$722d3940$@co.uk> Why would refreshing the whole page be a problem? Not sure it's worth treating Moodle separately to other methods partly because there will probably be a difference between the available language options and a lot of moodle installations don't actually have additional language packs enabled. I'm also thinking about how users might test the XOT language functionality as well as how we/others might demonstrate it. e.g. someone responsible for testing/promoting/supporting use has a local xampp install never sees the option. Likewise someone providing support/training with an installation using moodle authentication never sees the option. So it's not just about an individual being able to choose their preferred language (which may be more than one at different times) but also about being able to easily test/demonstrate the functionality to others. Ron -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 August 2012 12:48 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in If you change the language you'd need to refresh the entire page? Wouldn't it make more sense for moodle auth to use a moodle language var? On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Hi all > > I think this was raised previously but I can't find it with a quick > search so starting a new thread... > > > > At the moment as far as I can see the set language option (dropdown) > only shows when not logged in e.g. if guest or moodle authentication > is enabled the user never sees the option to change the language. > Shouldn't the option show continuously or at least when logged in as well as when not logged in? > > > > I suspect this is just a case of moving sections of code around in > index.php but not sure what/where? > > > > Would be good to get this changed and in place before the event in October. > > > > Ron > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. 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Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Aug 29 13:20:45 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:20:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in In-Reply-To: <012f01cd85de$d0b9bdc0$722d3940$@co.uk> References: <011101cd85dc$064be970$12e3bc50$@co.uk> <012f01cd85de$d0b9bdc0$722d3940$@co.uk> Message-ID: It just feels a little sideways, and also would break if deployed inside another system (say an Iframe). You might also have editors open, properties windows open, the JS might be cached (not sure how pretty that'd be). If I was demonstrating / testing - i'd just edit config.php - I can't think i'd want to develop in more than one language at once? Maybe the content could toggle - but the XOT pages seem a bit weird to toggle. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Why would refreshing the whole page be a problem? > > Not sure it's worth treating Moodle separately to other methods partly > because there will probably be a difference between the available language > options and a lot of moodle installations don't actually have additional > language packs enabled. > > I'm also thinking about how users might test the XOT language functionality > as well as how we/others might demonstrate it. e.g. someone responsible for > testing/promoting/supporting use has a local xampp install never sees the > option. Likewise someone providing support/training with an installation > using moodle authentication never sees the option. So it's not just about an > individual being able to choose their preferred language (which may be more > than one at different times) but also about being able to easily > test/demonstrate the functionality to others. > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 29 August 2012 12:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in > > If you change the language you'd need to refresh the entire page? > > Wouldn't it make more sense for moodle auth to use a moodle language var? > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I think this was raised previously but I can't find it with a quick >> search so starting a new thread... >> >> >> >> At the moment as far as I can see the set language option (dropdown) >> only shows when not logged in e.g. if guest or moodle authentication >> is enabled the user never sees the option to change the language. >> Shouldn't the option show continuously or at least when logged in as well > as when not logged in? >> >> >> >> I suspect this is just a case of moving sections of code around in >> index.php but not sure what/where? >> >> >> >> Would be good to get this changed and in place before the event in > October. >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of > Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Wed Aug 29 13:33:36 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:33:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in In-Reply-To: References: <011101cd85dc$064be970$12e3bc50$@co.uk> <012f01cd85de$d0b9bdc0$722d3940$@co.uk> Message-ID: <013f01cd85e2$86355e40$92a01ac0$@co.uk> You'd know better than me re the issues you mention. But from a practical perspective it seems odd to me that you can only change language when not logged in and xampp users with the default settings can't ever get to the option without changing config.php - that would be a step too far for many people. What do others think? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 29 August 2012 13:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in It just feels a little sideways, and also would break if deployed inside another system (say an Iframe). You might also have editors open, properties windows open, the JS might be cached (not sure how pretty that'd be). If I was demonstrating / testing - i'd just edit config.php - I can't think i'd want to develop in more than one language at once? Maybe the content could toggle - but the XOT pages seem a bit weird to toggle. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Why would refreshing the whole page be a problem? > > Not sure it's worth treating Moodle separately to other methods partly > because there will probably be a difference between the available > language options and a lot of moodle installations don't actually have > additional language packs enabled. > > I'm also thinking about how users might test the XOT language > functionality as well as how we/others might demonstrate it. e.g. > someone responsible for testing/promoting/supporting use has a local > xampp install never sees the option. Likewise someone providing > support/training with an installation using moodle authentication > never sees the option. So it's not just about an individual being able > to choose their preferred language (which may be more than one at > different times) but also about being able to easily test/demonstrate the functionality to others. > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 29 August 2012 12:48 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in > > If you change the language you'd need to refresh the entire page? > > Wouldn't it make more sense for moodle auth to use a moodle language var? > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ron Mitchell > > wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I think this was raised previously but I can't find it with a quick >> search so starting a new thread... >> >> >> >> At the moment as far as I can see the set language option (dropdown) >> only shows when not logged in e.g. if guest or moodle authentication >> is enabled the user never sees the option to change the language. >> Shouldn't the option show continuously or at least when logged in as >> well > as when not logged in? >> >> >> >> I suspect this is just a case of moving sections of code around in >> index.php but not sure what/where? >> >> >> >> Would be good to get this changed and in place before the event in > October. >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of > Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Wed Aug 29 14:10:36 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:10:36 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in In-Reply-To: <013f01cd85e2$86355e40$92a01ac0$@co.uk> References: <011101cd85dc$064be970$12e3bc50$@co.uk> <012f01cd85de$d0b9bdc0$722d3940$@co.uk> <013f01cd85e2$86355e40$92a01ac0$@co.uk> Message-ID: I asked if we should get a default language in the installer, the xampp option could do that, but we're also only distributing english by default (and at present, no guidance on where to get other language packs from and how to install) On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > You'd know better than me re the issues you mention. > > But from a practical perspective it seems odd to me that you can only change > language when not logged in and xampp users with the default settings can't > ever get to the option without changing config.php - that would be a step > too far for many people. > > What do others think? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 29 August 2012 13:21 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in > > It just feels a little sideways, and also would break if deployed inside > another system (say an Iframe). You might also have editors open, properties > windows open, the JS might be cached (not sure how pretty that'd be). > > If I was demonstrating / testing - i'd just edit config.php - I can't think > i'd want to develop in more than one language at once? Maybe the content > could toggle - but the XOT pages seem a bit weird to toggle. > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Ron Mitchell > wrote: >> Why would refreshing the whole page be a problem? >> >> Not sure it's worth treating Moodle separately to other methods partly >> because there will probably be a difference between the available >> language options and a lot of moodle installations don't actually have >> additional language packs enabled. >> >> I'm also thinking about how users might test the XOT language >> functionality as well as how we/others might demonstrate it. e.g. >> someone responsible for testing/promoting/supporting use has a local >> xampp install never sees the option. Likewise someone providing >> support/training with an installation using moodle authentication >> never sees the option. So it's not just about an individual being able >> to choose their preferred language (which may be more than one at >> different times) but also about being able to easily test/demonstrate the > functionality to others. >> >> Ron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 29 August 2012 12:48 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: language option only shows when not logged in >> >> If you change the language you'd need to refresh the entire page? >> >> Wouldn't it make more sense for moodle auth to use a moodle language var? >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ron Mitchell >> >> wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> I think this was raised previously but I can't find it with a quick >>> search so starting a new thread... >>> >>> >>> >>> At the moment as far as I can see the set language option (dropdown) >>> only shows when not logged in e.g. if guest or moodle authentication >>> is enabled the user never sees the option to change the language. >>> Shouldn't the option show continuously or at least when logged in as >>> well >> as when not logged in? >>> >>> >>> >>> I suspect this is just a case of moving sections of code around in >>> index.php but not sure what/where? >>> >>> >>> >>> Would be good to get this changed and in place before the event in >> October. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >> legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Aug 30 10:15:17 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:15:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> How hard would it be to automate step 4? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap A quick update.. This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 1. backup existing database and directory just in case 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need the setup folder) 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. create and test an LO 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails table to the ldap table? The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. Should this be removed from basic.sql? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > I guess these are questions for David or Pat Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to get in a mess / screw up their installs. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap Hi Julian yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' table. What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has encountered/resolved this too? HTH Ron From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? Thanks, Julian From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap Hi all I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. Upgrade process: drop code over top this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics work change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the relevant line refresh index.php and try to login via ldap get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade Questions: 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from site_details to ldap table for an existing install? In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the intended method? 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? Cheers Ron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Aug 30 10:23:43 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:23:43 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table. Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what the preference is On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > How hard would it be to automate step 4? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > > > A quick update.. > > This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 install using > LDAP for authentication to 1.8 > > > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't need > the setup folder) > > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > > 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the sitedetails table > to the ldap table in the database > > 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the > relevant line > > 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap > > > > As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an automated > way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails table to the ldap > table? > > > > The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains > ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by basic.sql in > a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I can't find anywhere > ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. Should this be removed > from basic.sql? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > > >> I guess these are questions for David or Pat > > Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to get in a > mess / screw up their installs. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > > > Hi Julian > > yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to upgrade > as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have the answers to > my two questions and especially question 1. > > > > Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as the ldap > table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. > Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of ldap info > from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added during install > or via management.php go into the ldap table but not sure what's supposed to > happen for existing installs? > > > > In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: > > > > * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' > table. > > > > What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap values are > in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? > > > > I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has > encountered/resolved this too? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > > > Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find out how > to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get one good, > thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. Maybe there is > an upgrade script or something we could write? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julian > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap > > > > Hi all > > I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install which > uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap values in > site details rather than the separate ldap table. > > > > Upgrade process: > > drop code over top > > this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics work > > change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting the > relevant line > > refresh index.php and try to login via ldap > > get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB > > visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved to > ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details > > try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade > > > > Questions: > > 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from site_details to > ldap table for an existing install? > > In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the intended > method? > > > > 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Aug 30 10:24:44 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:24:44 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade... -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table. Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what the preference is On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > How hard would it be to automate step 4? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > > > A quick update.. > > This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 install > using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 > > > > 1. backup existing database and directory just in case > > 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't > need the setup folder) > > 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. > create and test an LO > > 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the sitedetails > table to the ldap table in the database > > 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting > the relevant line > > 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap > > > > As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an > automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails table > to the ldap table? > > > > The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains > ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by > basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I > can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. > Should this be removed from basic.sql? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > > >> I guess these are questions for David or Pat > > Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to get > in a mess / screw up their installs. > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > > > Hi Julian > > yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to > upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have > the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. > > > > Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as the > ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. > Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of ldap > info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added > during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not > sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? > > > > In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: > > > > * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' > table. > > > > What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap values > are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? > > > > I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has > encountered/resolved this too? > > > > HTH > > Ron > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian > Tenney > Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > > > Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find > out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get > one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. > Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julian > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron > Mitchell > Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap > > > > Hi all > > I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install > which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap > values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. > > > > Upgrade process: > > drop code over top > > this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics > work > > change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting > the relevant line > > refresh index.php and try to login via ldap > > get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB > > visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved > to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details > > try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade > > > > Questions: > > 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from > site_details to ldap table for an existing install? > > In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the > intended method? > > > > 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? > > > > Cheers > > Ron > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by > the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with > the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Aug 30 10:27:46 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:27:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: you need a script with read the values from sitedetails and imported it into the ldap table On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table. > > Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what the preference is > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> How hard would it be to automate step 4? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >> A quick update.. >> >> This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 install >> using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 >> >> >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't >> need the setup folder) >> >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. >> create and test an LO >> >> 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the sitedetails >> table to the ldap table in the database >> >> 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting >> the relevant line >> >> 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap >> >> >> >> As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an >> automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails table >> to the ldap table? >> >> >> >> The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains >> ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by >> basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I >> can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. >> Should this be removed from basic.sql? >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat >> >> Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to get >> in a mess / screw up their installs. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >> Hi Julian >> >> yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to >> upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have >> the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. >> >> >> >> Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as the >> ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. >> Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of ldap >> info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added >> during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not >> sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? >> >> >> >> In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: >> >> >> >> * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' >> table. >> >> >> >> What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap values >> are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? >> >> >> >> I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has >> encountered/resolved this too? >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >> Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find >> out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get >> one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. >> Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Julian >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install >> which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap >> values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. >> >> >> >> Upgrade process: >> >> drop code over top >> >> this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics >> work >> >> change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting >> the relevant line >> >> refresh index.php and try to login via ldap >> >> get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB >> >> visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved >> to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details >> >> try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade >> >> >> >> Questions: >> >> 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from >> site_details to ldap table for an existing install? >> >> In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the >> intended method? >> >> >> >> 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Aug 30 10:28:18 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:28:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCD1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I know. I'll be blunt - could someone write one? ;-) -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 30 August 2012 10:28 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap you need a script with read the values from sitedetails and imported it into the ldap table On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade... > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table. > > Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the > installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what the > preference is > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> How hard would it be to automate step 4? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >> A quick update.. >> >> This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 >> install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 >> >> >> >> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >> >> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't >> need the setup folder) >> >> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. >> create and test an LO >> >> 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the >> sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database >> >> 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by >> commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >> >> 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap >> >> >> >> As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an >> automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails table >> to the ldap table? >> >> >> >> The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains >> ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by >> basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I >> can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. >> Should this be removed from basic.sql? >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat >> >> Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to get >> in a mess / screw up their installs. >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >> Hi Julian >> >> yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to >> upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have >> the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. >> >> >> >> Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as >> the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. >> Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of >> ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added >> during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not >> sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? >> >> >> >> In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: >> >> >> >> * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' >> table. >> >> >> >> What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap >> values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? >> >> >> >> I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has >> encountered/resolved this too? >> >> >> >> HTH >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >> Tenney >> Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >> Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find >> out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get >> one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. >> Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Julian >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >> Mitchell >> Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install >> which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap >> values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. >> >> >> >> Upgrade process: >> >> drop code over top >> >> this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics >> work >> >> change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting >> the relevant line >> >> refresh index.php and try to login via ldap >> >> get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB >> >> visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved >> to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details >> >> try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade >> >> >> >> Questions: >> >> 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from >> site_details to ldap table for an existing install? >> >> In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the >> intended method? >> >> >> >> 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu Aug 30 10:36:49 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:36:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCD1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCD1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I am? give me 5 minutes. David On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:28, Julian Tenney wrote: > I know. I'll be blunt - could someone write one? > > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 August 2012 10:28 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > you need a script with read the values from sitedetails and imported it into the ldap table > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table. >> >> Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the >> installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what the >> preference is >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> How hard would it be to automate step 4? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> A quick update.. >>> >>> This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 >>> install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >>> >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't >>> need the setup folder) >>> >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. >>> create and test an LO >>> >>> 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the >>> sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database >>> >>> 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by >>> commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >>> >>> 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an >>> automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails table >>> to the ldap table? >>> >>> >>> >>> The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains >>> ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by >>> basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I >>> can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. >>> Should this be removed from basic.sql? >>> >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat >>> >>> Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to get >>> in a mess / screw up their installs. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Julian >>> >>> yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to >>> upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have >>> the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. >>> >>> >>> >>> Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as >>> the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. >>> Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of >>> ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added >>> during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not >>> sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? >>> >>> >>> >>> In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: >>> >>> >>> >>> * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' >>> table. >>> >>> >>> >>> What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap >>> values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? >>> >>> >>> >>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has >>> encountered/resolved this too? >>> >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find >>> out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get >>> one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. >>> Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Julian >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install >>> which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap >>> values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. >>> >>> >>> >>> Upgrade process: >>> >>> drop code over top >>> >>> this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics >>> work >>> >>> change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting >>> the relevant line >>> >>> refresh index.php and try to login via ldap >>> >>> get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB >>> >>> visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved >>> to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details >>> >>> try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade >>> >>> >>> >>> Questions: >>> >>> 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from >>> site_details to ldap table for an existing install? >>> >>> In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the >>> intended method? >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >>> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Aug 30 10:37:05 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:37:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCD1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF8BF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Brill, thanks, -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 30 August 2012 10:37 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap I am... give me 5 minutes. David On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:28, Julian Tenney wrote: > I know. I'll be blunt - could someone write one? > > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 30 August 2012 10:28 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > you need a script with read the values from sitedetails and imported > it into the ldap table > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table. >> >> Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the >> installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what the >> preference is >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> How hard would it be to automate step 4? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> A quick update.. >>> >>> This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 >>> install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >>> >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't >>> need the setup folder) >>> >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. >>> create and test an LO >>> >>> 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the >>> sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database >>> >>> 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by >>> commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >>> >>> 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an >>> automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails >>> table to the ldap table? >>> >>> >>> >>> The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains >>> ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by >>> basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I >>> can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. >>> Should this be removed from basic.sql? >>> >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> Julian Tenney >>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat >>> >>> Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to >>> get in a mess / screw up their installs. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Julian >>> >>> yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to >>> upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have >>> the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. >>> >>> >>> >>> Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as >>> the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. >>> Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of >>> ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values >>> added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table >>> but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? >>> >>> >>> >>> In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: >>> >>> >>> >>> * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' >>> table. >>> >>> >>> >>> What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap >>> values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? >>> >>> >>> >>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has >>> encountered/resolved this too? >>> >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>> Julian Tenney >>> Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find >>> out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get >>> one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. >>> Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Julian >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install >>> which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap >>> values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. >>> >>> >>> >>> Upgrade process: >>> >>> drop code over top >>> >>> this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the >>> basics work >>> >>> change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting >>> the relevant line >>> >>> refresh index.php and try to login via ldap >>> >>> get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB >>> >>> visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not >>> saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details >>> >>> try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade >>> >>> >>> >>> Questions: >>> >>> 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from >>> site_details to ldap table for an existing install? >>> >>> In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the >>> intended method? >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Aug 30 10:32:04 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:32:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCD1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCD1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think if you mysql admin into the nottingham install, it may already have it On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I know. I'll be blunt - could someone write one? > > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 30 August 2012 10:28 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > you need a script with read the values from sitedetails and imported it into the ldap table > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >> I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table. >> >> Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the >> installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what the >> preference is >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> How hard would it be to automate step 4? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> A quick update.. >>> >>> This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 >>> install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >>> >>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't >>> need the setup folder) >>> >>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. >>> create and test an LO >>> >>> 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the >>> sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database >>> >>> 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by >>> commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >>> >>> 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an >>> automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails table >>> to the ldap table? >>> >>> >>> >>> The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains >>> ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by >>> basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I >>> can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. >>> Should this be removed from basic.sql? >>> >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat >>> >>> Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to get >>> in a mess / screw up their installs. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Julian >>> >>> yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to >>> upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have >>> the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. >>> >>> >>> >>> Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as >>> the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. >>> Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of >>> ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values added >>> during install or via management.php go into the ldap table but not >>> sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? >>> >>> >>> >>> In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: >>> >>> >>> >>> * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' >>> table. >>> >>> >>> >>> What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap >>> values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? >>> >>> >>> >>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has >>> encountered/resolved this too? >>> >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find >>> out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get >>> one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. >>> Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Julian >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install >>> which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap >>> values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. >>> >>> >>> >>> Upgrade process: >>> >>> drop code over top >>> >>> this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the basics >>> work >>> >>> change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting >>> the relevant line >>> >>> refresh index.php and try to login via ldap >>> >>> get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB >>> >>> visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not saved >>> to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details >>> >>> try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade >>> >>> >>> >>> Questions: >>> >>> 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from >>> site_details to ldap table for an existing install? >>> >>> In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the >>> intended method? >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete >>> it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in >>> this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by >>> the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of >>> this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>> the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From david at palepurple.co.uk Thu Aug 30 10:50:45 2012 From: david at palepurple.co.uk (David Goodwin) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:50:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF8BF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCD1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF8BF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:37, Julian Tenney wrote: > Brill, thanks, Hi, Try running svn update and then run / point a browser at 'upgrade.php'. It may work; or be very close to working. You'll need to modify config.php to specify you want an LDAP backend etc. I'd strongly suggest you try it on a demo/non-live environment first. David. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin > Sent: 30 August 2012 10:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > I am... give me 5 minutes. > > David > > > On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:28, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> I know. I'll be blunt - could someone write one? >> >> ;-) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:28 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> you need a script with read the values from sitedetails and imported >> it into the ldap table >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table. >>> >>> Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the >>> installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what the >>> preference is >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>> How hard would it be to automate step 4? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>>> Mitchell >>>> Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 >>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A quick update.. >>>> >>>> This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 >>>> install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >>>> >>>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you don't >>>> need the setup folder) >>>> >>>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. >>>> create and test an LO >>>> >>>> 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the >>>> sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database >>>> >>>> 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by >>>> commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >>>> >>>> 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an >>>> automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails >>>> table to the ldap table? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains >>>> ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by >>>> basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I >>>> can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. >>>> Should this be removed from basic.sql? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>> Julian Tenney >>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat >>>> >>>> Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to >>>> get in a mess / screw up their installs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>>> Mitchell >>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 >>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Julian >>>> >>>> yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to >>>> upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have >>>> the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as >>>> the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. >>>> Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of >>>> ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values >>>> added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table >>>> but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' >>>> table. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap >>>> values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has >>>> encountered/resolved this too? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>> Julian Tenney >>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you find >>>> out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If we get >>>> one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. >>>> Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Julian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>>> Mitchell >>>> Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 >>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install >>>> which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the ldap >>>> values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Upgrade process: >>>> >>>> drop code over top >>>> >>>> this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the >>>> basics work >>>> >>>> change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting >>>> the relevant line >>>> >>>> refresh index.php and try to login via ldap >>>> >>>> get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB >>>> >>>> visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not >>>> saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details >>>> >>>> try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Questions: >>>> >>>> 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from >>>> site_details to ldap table for an existing install? >>>> >>>> In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the >>>> intended method? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2. 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(Company No: 5580814) 'Business Web Application Development and Training in PHP' http://www.palepurple.co.uk Office: 0845 0046746 Mobile: 07792380669 Follow us on Twitter: @PalePurpleLtd From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Aug 30 10:51:58 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:51:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap In-Reply-To: References: <010001cd758b$568bf850$03a3e8f0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BD29@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003e01cd7611$c0f9a440$42ececc0$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C1336BDAB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003601cd76d3$ad234800$0769d800$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCAF@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCC7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CA8DCD1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF8BF4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0C3CEF8F94@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > It may work; or be very close to working. Thanks. > I'd strongly suggest you try it on a demo/non-live environment first. Understood. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin Sent: 30 August 2012 10:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:37, Julian Tenney wrote: > Brill, thanks, Hi, Try running svn update and then run / point a browser at 'upgrade.php'. It may work; or be very close to working. You'll need to modify config.php to specify you want an LDAP backend etc. I'd strongly suggest you try it on a demo/non-live environment first. David. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David > Goodwin > Sent: 30 August 2012 10:37 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap > > I am... give me 5 minutes. > > David > > > On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:28, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> I know. I'll be blunt - could someone write one? >> >> ;-) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:28 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >> >> you need a script with read the values from sitedetails and imported >> it into the ldap table >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>> >>> the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table. >>> >>> Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the >>> installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what >>> the preference is >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>>> How hard would it be to automate step 4? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>>> Mitchell >>>> Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40 >>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A quick update.. >>>> >>>> This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7 >>>> install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case >>>> >>>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you >>>> don't need the setup folder) >>>> >>>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g. >>>> create and test an LO >>>> >>>> 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the >>>> sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database >>>> >>>> 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by >>>> commenting/un-commenting the relevant line >>>> >>>> 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an >>>> automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails >>>> table to the ldap table? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains >>>> ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by >>>> basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I >>>> can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code. >>>> Should this be removed from basic.sql? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>> Julian Tenney >>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat >>>> >>>> Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to >>>> get in a mess / screw up their installs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>>> Mitchell >>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31 >>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Julian >>>> >>>> yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to >>>> upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have >>>> the answers to my two questions and especially question 1. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as >>>> the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should. >>>> Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of >>>> ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values >>>> added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table >>>> but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap' >>>> table. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap >>>> values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has >>>> encountered/resolved this too? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>> Julian Tenney >>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you >>>> find out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If >>>> we get one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain. >>>> Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Julian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>>> Mitchell >>>> Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29 >>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install >>>> which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the >>>> ldap values in site details rather than the separate ldap table. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Upgrade process: >>>> >>>> drop code over top >>>> >>>> this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the >>>> basics work >>>> >>>> change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting >>>> the relevant line >>>> >>>> refresh index.php and try to login via ldap >>>> >>>> get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB >>>> >>>> visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not >>>> saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details >>>> >>>> try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Questions: >>>> >>>> 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from >>>> site_details to ldap table for an existing install? >>>> >>>> In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the >>>> intended method? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have >>>> received this message in error, please send it back to me, and >>>> immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the >>>> information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any >>>> views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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