[Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 report

[Julian Tenney]

Again, not one solution ticks all the boxes...

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 24 April 2012 11:04
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 report

You might find the following link interesting :-)

http://html5video.org/wiki/HTML5_Player_Comparison

Kind regards

Johnathan
On 24 April 2012 10:18, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
> Could this compromise the acceptability of Xenith to these institutions.

No, it mustn't do that. We can ship a free version, but I don't want to get into handling money. If we pay for a license to redistribute a component in toolkits, we need to recoup it from users: I don't want to get into that. I'd rather include open solutions, but if the best solution isn't open, then a freemium closed solution that we can redistribute would be OK.

I think he goal is to lean on the native HTML5 tags wherever we can, so use <video> if possible and fall back in browsers / situations where we have to. <video> won't play .flv, so in the case of flv being encountered we need to fallback to a flash solution anyway.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 24 April 2012 10:15

To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 report

I have just been looking at the Longtail video site to try to find the licence for the video player.

I haven't been able to find the licence yet but it is clear that as well as the free version they have the Pro and Enterprise versions.

The Pro version includes "use on commercial web sites" so it could be that if the free version was distributed as part of Xenith that any University or College using Xenith on their web site would then be in breach of the licence. Could this compromise the acceptability of Xenith to these institutions.

Kind regards

Johnathan


On 24 April 2012 10:01, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
Or, as Pat says, distribute the badged one, and let people upgrade it.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 24 April 2012 10:00

To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 report

 "Presumably we can't redistribute a non-badged version? Maybe if we pay enough,"

I am pretty sure that Moodle used to include an early version of the JWFLV player from Longtail Video in their release, so it may well be possible to cut some kind of deal with them.

Kind regards

Johnathan


On 24 April 2012 09:54, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
> which you need to pay for to have an unbadged version
Presumably we can't redistribute a non-badged version? Maybe if we pay enough,

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 24 April 2012 09:49
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 report

Firefox can play mp3 - it's mp4 where the confusion occurs - and
google have bought (i think) or are making an Open Source mp4 codec
(which is why firefox can't do it).

http://podcasts.ox.ac.uk/chaucer-audio is an MP3 playing in HTML 5 in firefox.

There is a lot of JS around which goes (in psuedo)

create me a video node
if no
use something else

long tail does it (and is perhaps a better option as it has plugins),
then there is videoJS, or mediaelements (we use mediaelements on
podcasts, but are moving to longtail - which you need to pay for to
have an unbadged version)

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
> http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5/
>
>
>
> Interesting. Fay pointed out that Firefox won't play mp3 files, I was
> surprised. So in the Xenith project we will have to consider how to manage
> html5 audio because there is not a common format that works in all browsers.
> WTF.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Kemp
> Johnathan
> Sent: 23 April 2012 19:39
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 25th - 26th April (was RE: Translation support of
> Wizard)
>
>
>
> I don't know if you have come across this site, but they keep updating their
> assessment of html5 across the various platforms.
>
>
>
> If you haven't seen their report before you may find it useful.
>
>
>
> http://www.longtailvideo.com/
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 23 April 2012 11:38, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> wrote:
>
> Cheers, yes, I'll let you all know. We need to get the prototype so you guys
> can all hit it and comment as we go along: I'll get Fay to do that on
> Friday,
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Kemp
> Johnathan
> Sent: 23 April 2012 11:25
>
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 25th - 26th April (was RE: Translation support of
> Wizard)
>
>
>
> Hello Julian,
>
>
>
> Just wanted to wish you well with the Xenith project meetings later this
> week. Thanks for the invite, unfortunately I have other commitments.
>
>
>
> I shall follow the developments with interest, particularly those relating
> to any facilities for the generation of new page types.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 14 April 2012 23:38, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> wrote:
>
> I'll get back to you, thanks. I'm out at a conference Mon - Weds this week,
> then I have a manic week, but then I will get some time to work on ths
> stuff, and get it released. Thanks for all your work the last few weeks.
>
> We are meetng wth some developers from EDINA here in Nottingham 25th and
> 26th April, to discuss approaches to the Xenith Project. A lot of that
> discussion is relevant here - there is a very open agenda right now. Anyone,
> if you fancy coming along, let me know.
>
> ________________________________________
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> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> [reijnders at tor.nl<mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>]
> Sent: 14 April 2012 07:45
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Translation support of Wizard
>
> Julian,
>
> (or any other person that is able to work on the flash code)
>
> I added translation support to the wizard, i.e. I am trying to
> accomplish that.  That will be the final step for this release.
>
> -  We will have the code for a complete translated version of XOT
> - Only the Editor will remain in English, I think that is acceptable for
> now.. I don't have the time to add translation for that at this point.
>
> I've got two issues.
>
> 1. I somehow have to embed a language code t=in a project, to be able to
> set the language correctly when reopening a project. What is the best
> way to do that?
> 2. I can't get the labels of the two check boxes (Advanced and Language)
> changed into a new language string. Could you please have a look at
> attached .fla what I am doing wrong, cq. missed?
>
> What did I change?
>
> 1. Added some attributes to the language-config.xml file
> 2. Added a language chooser in the Pages menu of the editor
> 3. Pass the 'language code' to the wizard as a third option
> 4. Created  English and Dutch wizard language files
> 5. Used these in attached .fla file
>
> Everything is committed, except attached .fla, because I want to figure
> out what I did wrong with the check boxes, and the translation is not
> complete yet.
>
> NOTE:
> 1. The wizard already had a version of XML.prototype.toObject, but that
> version expects unique XML nodes throughout the file (so no set of
> <item> for a combo box etc). I wanted to keep the look of the xml
> relatively close to what you did for the engine, but I didn't want to go
> over the wizard to change all the code if I changed the toObject that
> interprets the xwd. So I added a second version XML.prototype.toArrObject.
> 2. Most of the work is done in a function called setTranslation (line
> 2533) that is called after the language file has successfully been read
> in (in function  init)
>
> Tom
>
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