[Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Thu Apr 5 09:51:21 BST 2012


Yes they are in the editor.fla library

Op 5-4-2012 10:18, Julian Tenney schreef:
> are the icons for the pages menus in the editor.fla library? We need 
> some connector icons for the wizard too. I can make them, or propose 
> some, or you can select something from the famfamfam icon set, and 
> either mix a few icons up to get what you want, or use something 
> appropriate.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders 
> [reijnders at tor.nl]
> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 20:31
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>
> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the 
> file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file 
> as well.
>
> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host 
> it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure 
> that part out.
>
> Tom
>
> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation.
>>
>> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by 
>> the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the 
>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project 
>> folder. Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and 
>> xwd file associated with .rlo files.
>>
>> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth 
>> changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid 
>> any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt?
>>
>> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is 
>> a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this 
>> is that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display 
>> the new Connector pages option in the menu.
>>
>> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a 
>> PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was 
>> possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that 
>> project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file 
>> could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed.
>>
>> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence 
>> would you be able to make available the installation build that he 
>> put together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it 
>> with my installation to see what might be missing.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com 
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the
>>     associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not
>>     being copied into the project folder, when a new project is
>>     created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing
>>     in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most
>>     recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one
>>     project to another as I developed it.
>>
>>     I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the
>>     connector menus.
>>
>>     JK
>>
>>     On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney
>>     <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>>     <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere
>>         for people to access it, or Fay can.
>>
>>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>>         *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44
>>
>>
>>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>>         installs
>>
>>         If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the
>>         release available while you are away?
>>
>>         I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when
>>         you just need to get things tidied up before a break!
>>
>>         I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to
>>         have a great time.
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>
>>         Johnathan
>>
>>         On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney
>>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You
>>         might need to change some paths.
>>
>>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>>         *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36
>>
>>
>>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>>         installs
>>
>>         What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy
>>         of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu.
>>
>>         To create a build I run run.bat?
>>
>>         Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc?
>>
>>         JK
>>
>>         On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney
>>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte
>>         repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you
>>         haven't commited something or you're using a different set of
>>         files.
>>
>>         Please test everything and when you think you've got a
>>         working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup.
>>         I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it
>>         somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not
>>         doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just
>>         wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow
>>         until 19^th April, and realistically it's more like beginning
>>         of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to
>>         have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're
>>         ever going to get these releases done.
>>
>>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>>         *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26
>>
>>
>>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>>         installs
>>
>>         It should be looking like in the attached file.
>>
>>         JK
>>
>>         On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney
>>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         Should I see connector pages in these menus?
>>
>>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>>         *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05
>>
>>
>>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>>         installs
>>
>>         I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able
>>         to create a new project that had access to connector pages.
>>
>>         Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test.
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>
>>         Johnathan
>>
>>         On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney
>>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get
>>         the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't
>>         work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question
>>         about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe
>>         amongst the repo files.
>>
>>         If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files
>>         that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn.
>>
>>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>>         *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50
>>
>>
>>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>>         installs
>>
>>         I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled
>>         an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus
>>         value from "Text" to "TextX"
>>
>>         When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages  project the
>>         new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it.
>>
>>         So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages
>>         not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet
>>         updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer
>>         Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not
>>         having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte
>>         editor, exe. etc.
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>
>>         Johnathan
>>
>>         On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan
>>         <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>>         <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Try now,
>>
>>         I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped!
>>
>>         I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new
>>         Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project.
>>
>>         If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why
>>         that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on
>>         what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the
>>         xwd menus property.
>>
>>         It might indicate that something that governs the functioning
>>         of Xerte.exe has not been updated.
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>
>>         Johnathan
>>
>>         On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan
>>         <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>>         <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Whoops!
>>
>>         Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you
>>         try to include the latest bits from a test project :-(
>>
>>         JK
>>
>>         On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney
>>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project:
>>         it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst
>>         the menus?
>>
>>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>>         *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45
>>
>>
>>         *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>>
>>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>>         installs
>>
>>         OK latest update.
>>
>>         Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt
>>         that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it
>>         is possible to create a project and add new pages. One
>>         feature that will need attention is that some of the pages
>>         are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in
>>         Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the
>>         modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in
>>         the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to
>>         build a test installation for testing the new models, but it
>>         will not include currently the language features.
>>
>>         Re. Xerte
>>
>>         I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think
>>         will be enough to create a working install. With one big
>>         proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide
>>         the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages"
>>         project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime
>>         then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding.
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>
>>         Johnathan
>>
>>         On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney
>>         <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy
>>         to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you
>>         can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else
>>         tries to set it up,
>>
>>         *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>         [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>         <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>>         Of *Kemp Johnathan
>>         *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09
>>
>>
>>         *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List
>>
>>         *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>>         installs
>>
>>         I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the
>>         new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in
>>         a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an
>>         equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual
>>         xwds.
>>
>>         This should provide a working set of models to test.
>>
>>         During developments several changes were made to
>>         XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the
>>         people responsible for these changes have updated them in the
>>         XOT svn.
>>
>>         Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these
>>         will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to
>>         the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated.
>>
>>         I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in
>>         order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I
>>         think this is an area in which you will know best.
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>
>>         Johnathan
>>
>>         On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan
>>         <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>>         <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and
>>         xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a
>>         re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the
>>         developer list so that the communication is shared with all
>>         parties who are helping to put this new development on the road.
>>
>>         1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you
>>         made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn
>>         pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you
>>         mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was
>>         handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes
>>         to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the
>>         svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of
>>         the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and
>>         the XOT build files.
>>
>>         2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming
>>         that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn
>>         "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the
>>         default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the
>>         runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the
>>         php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files
>>         that build the template.xwd file.
>>
>>         3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that
>>         new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I
>>         need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted)
>>         to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/
>>
>>         4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in 
>>         modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which
>>         will contain the individual xwd files.
>>
>>         5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the
>>          modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder.
>>
>>         6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT
>>         server and where will they be located?
>>
>>         7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we
>>         need to consider in order to be in a position where we can
>>         say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to
>>         build his test server?
>>
>>         8.Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we
>>         review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can
>>         get a Xerte build ready for testing?
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>
>>         Johnathan
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