From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 09:26:05 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 09:26:05 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B4112D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F75CE08.9040804@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B412ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Yes, the goal is to support as much as possible existing RLOs, so we can have two parallel delivery systems until the world has moved over to HTML5. JavaScript / JQuery is worth some initial poking around with, because if we avoid PHP, we can have more transportable learning objects, but nothing is decided yet: need to feel our way into a few things. The devil will be in the detail, I'm sure, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 30 March 2012 16:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer What Language are you writing this in? And are you going to try to interpret existing LO's? Looks good! Op 30-3-2012 17:11, Julian Tenney schreef: Great! We want to use this as a way of letting the development take place in full view, so we can surface issues and questions as they arise, and debate the various things we need to debate here. It will greatly aid the project if you can help by chipping in thoughts and observations as we go along - accessibility is an area to be concerned with, and things will be quite different in HTML than in Flash, for obvious reasons, and we need to think about the framework for developers to extend the system with their own templates: so if you have any thought s about how this should work from a developers point of view please pipe up. This is a brilliant start! Have a great weekend, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross Sent: 30 March 2012 16:03 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5 viewer Hello This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. You can view an work in progress example of it here http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn't been sorted properly yet) At the moment it's obviously very rough and looks terrible! I've added all the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu image etc.). The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else on each page is currently fixed. The page models are separate html files that are loaded in to the main interface html. A few things have come up as I've been working on this that you might have opinions on: We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with this. What do you think about the size of it though - fix it at 800 x 600 or have it automatically resize? Do you think we will still need an option to swap views? In this version there's a main style sheet and you can also add styles to each page model html file if there's any stuff specific to that model. This seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a custom style sheet for the LO - these override the main one but not the model specific styles. For those who have made custom interfaces for projects in the past is this likely to be a problem? I would have thought the styles in the models will be more general layout things. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 09:35:08 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 09:35:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41312@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > With respect to screen size 800 by 600 is a good default, but it can be useful to be able to use larger sizes particularly if you are including screen captures to demonstrate an application. This is the detail that we need to talk through: in Xerte in flash, changing the size of the screen scales the movie: the whole thing gets bigger / smaller. In HTML that doesn't happen, so the div gets bigger / smaller, but the text doesn't resize, rather it just wraps differently. So what should we do as a default: fill the browser? Start off with a set size? Start off with an author-controlled size - but do we want settings that are only relevant to html delivery? We want to try an use the existing settings wherever possible, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 31 March 2012 11:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5 viewer It's looking good. I don't have Firefox installed on my PC at present, but I viewed it in Opera and Explorer 8 and the two versions both looked the same so I guess it must be doing what it is supposed to do :-) With respect to screen size 800 by 600 is a good default, but it can be useful to be able to use larger sizes particularly if you are including screen captures to demonstrate an application. I don't know if it is worth considering this at the point when you are just starting to create your models, but are you sizing things absolutely or relatively? In the xerte rlm files many of the pages use absolute values based on the default screen sizes e.g. assuming the default screen size of 800 x 600 a panel and text box might have width options for small, medium and large. These values then equate to say 200, 400 and 600. They could be set to screenWidth / 4, screenWidth / 2 etc. which would then scale automatically if a new screen width was set for the project. Just a thought. Kind regards Johnathan On 30 March 2012 16:03, Fay Cross > wrote: Hello This week the project to make a HTML5 viewer for Toolkits started. You can view an work in progress example of it here http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/prototypeInterface.htm (best to view in Firefox at the moment - the css hasn't been sorted properly yet) At the moment it's obviously very rough and looks terrible! I've added all the optional properties to the LO so I can make sure everything that works in the Flash version works here too (background image, icon, menu page, menu image etc.). The aim is to get the main interface finalised before we start work on any of the page models so although it is getting info from an xml file to load in the correct page type and give it a title, everything else on each page is currently fixed. The page models are separate html files that are loaded in to the main interface html. A few things have come up as I've been working on this that you might have opinions on: We were thinking of getting rid of a lot of the options at the bottom of the Flash version (Font / Text Size etc.) and have the browser setting deal with this. What do you think about the size of it though - fix it at 800 x 600 or have it automatically resize? Do you think we will still need an option to swap views? In this version there's a main style sheet and you can also add styles to each page model html file if there's any stuff specific to that model. This seems to work ok but I was wondering what would happen if you uploaded a custom style sheet for the LO - these override the main one but not the model specific styles. For those who have made custom interfaces for projects in the past is this likely to be a problem? I would have thought the styles in the models will be more general layout things. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 2 10:59:16 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:59:16 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Testing of 1.8/2.18 Message-ID: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of the live xot - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs and generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already have a few observations: 1. The language selection has to be sorted out 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', 'nl', etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page loads, but after that I can't do anything) If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login credentials by PM. Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 2 11:15:12 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:15:12 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 In-Reply-To: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4F797C30.2080704@tor.nl> Two other things.. :-) - The buttons are not translated (translatable) we need a clever system to be able to change the labels on the buttons... - The editor is not translated, we should/can do that the same way Julian tackled the Engine(?). And just a thought, should we create a alpha installer packages? Op 2-4-2012 11:59, Tom Reijnders schreef: > We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. > > - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk > - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis > - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates > of the live xot > - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs > and generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's > > I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already > have a few observations: > > 1. The language selection has to be sorted out > 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', > 'nl', etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. > 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's > 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page > loads, but after that I can't do anything) > > If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login > credentials by PM. > > Tom > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 11:16:56 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 11:16:56 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 In-Reply-To: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> Message-ID: Hello, No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing anything? I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of simplicity). Pat On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. > > - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk > - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis > - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of the > live xot > - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs and > generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's > > I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already have a > few observations: > > 1. The language selection has to be sorted out > 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', 'nl', > ?etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. > 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's > 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page loads, > but after that I can't do anything) > > If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login > credentials by PM. > > Tom > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 2 11:28:19 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:28:19 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4F797F43.70706@tor.nl> Yes, the flash loads, it shows the first page of the LO correctly, with all fields/items filled in correctly. Things start to go wrong when I want to go the the next page... Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: > Hello, > > No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. > Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing anything? > > I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of > simplicity). > > Pat > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >> >> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of the >> live xot >> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs and >> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >> >> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already have a >> few observations: >> >> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', 'nl', >> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page loads, >> but after that I can't do anything) >> >> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >> credentials by PM. >> >> Tom >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 2 11:29:57 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:29:57 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: > Hello, > > No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. > Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing anything? > > I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of > simplicity). > > Pat > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >> >> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of the >> live xot >> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs and >> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >> >> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already have a >> few observations: >> >> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', 'nl', >> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page loads, >> but after that I can't do anything) >> >> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >> credentials by PM. >> >> Tom >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 11:33:04 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 11:33:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> Message-ID: we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go with whatever is simple On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this > working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) > > Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >> Hello, >> >> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >> anything? >> >> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >> simplicity). >> >> Pat >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>> >>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>> >>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>> the >>> live xot >>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs and >>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>> >>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already have >>> a >>> few observations: >>> >>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>> 'nl', >>> ?etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page loads, >>> but after that I can't do anything) >>> >>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>> credentials by PM. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>> not >>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>> do >>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 2 11:38:07 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:38:07 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource in one of the inc files. Correct? Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're still the expert on that! I am happy to help! Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! Tom Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: > we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. > > Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go > with whatever is simple > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >> >> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> Hello, >>> >>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>> anything? >>> >>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>> simplicity). >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>> >>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>> the >>>> live xot >>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs and >>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>> >>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already have >>>> a >>>> few observations: >>>> >>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>> 'nl', >>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page loads, >>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>> >>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>> credentials by PM. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>> in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>> not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >>>> attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 11:54:54 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 11:54:54 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414AA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> who From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Apr 2 11:59:07 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 06:59:07 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414AA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl>, , <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl>, , <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl>, <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414AA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: are > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 11:54:54 +0100 > Subject: [Xerte-dev] (no subject) > > who > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 12:10:42 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:10:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> Message-ID: Change the file then for that one :) Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle "disabling" the button Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource > in one of the inc files. Correct? > > Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're > still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! > > Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! > > We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. > > Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the > pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in > stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! > > Tom > > Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >> >> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >> with whatever is simple >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>> >>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>> anything? >>>> >>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>> simplicity). >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>> >>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>> the >>>>> live xot >>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>> and >>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>> >>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>> have >>>>> a >>>>> few observations: >>>>> >>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>> 'nl', >>>>> ?etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>> loads, >>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>> >>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>>>> do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>> any >>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>> email >>>>> do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>> the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>> and >>>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >>>> the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>> legislation. >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 12:20:37 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:20:37 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> >Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? You need one, or several sizes? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) Change the file then for that one :) Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle "disabling" the button Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource > in one of the inc files. Correct? > > Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're > still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! > > Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! > > We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. > > Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the > pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in > stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! > > Tom > > Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >> >> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >> with whatever is simple >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>> >>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>> anything? >>>> >>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>> simplicity). >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>> >>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>> the >>>>> live xot >>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>> and >>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>> >>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>> have >>>>> a >>>>> few observations: >>>>> >>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>> 'nl', >>>>> ?etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>> loads, >>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>> >>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>>>> do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>> any >>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>> email >>>>> do >>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> >>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>> attachment >>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>> system: >>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>> the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>> and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>> in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do >>>> not >>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>> any >>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>>> do >>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> >>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>> attachment >>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>> system: >>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>> the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>> legislation. >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >> system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 12:31:08 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:31:08 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The same size as they are now really On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? > > You need one, or several sizes? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > Change the file then for that one :) > > Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy > > The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle > "disabling" the button > > Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >> in one of the inc files. Correct? >> >> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >> still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >> >> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >> >> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >> >> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >> >> Tom >> >> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>> >>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>> with whatever is simple >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>> >>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>> >>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>> anything? >>>>> >>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>> simplicity). >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>> >>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>> the >>>>>> live xot >>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>> and >>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>> have >>>>>> a >>>>>> few observations: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>> ?etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>> loads, >>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>> >>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>> in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 12:33:39 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:33:39 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) The same size as they are now really On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: >>Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? > > You need one, or several sizes? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > Change the file then for that one :) > > Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy > > The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle > "disabling" the button > > Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >> in one of the inc files. Correct? >> >> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >> still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >> >> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >> >> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >> >> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >> >> Tom >> >> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>> >>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>> with whatever is simple >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>> >>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>> >>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>> anything? >>>>> >>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>> simplicity). >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>> >>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>> the >>>>>> live xot >>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>> and >>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>> have >>>>>> a >>>>>> few observations: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>> ?etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>> loads, >>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>> >>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>> in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with >>>>> the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>> legislation. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 2 12:38:23 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:38:23 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... There are a few other places as well, like the login button... Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > The same size as they are now really > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >> You need one, or several sizes? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> Change the file then for that one :) >> >> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >> >> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >> "disabling" the button >> >> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>> >>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >>> still the expert on that! I am happy to help! >>> >>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>> >>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>> >>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>> >>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>> with whatever is simple >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>> anything? >>>>>> >>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>>>> email >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>> and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >>>>>> the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 12:41:01 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:41:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Four states for each button? Normal Click Off Disabled I'll do the sections approach if that's OK -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... There are a few other places as well, like the login button... Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: > These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > The same size as they are now really > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >> You need one, or several sizes? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> Change the file then for that one :) >> >> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >> >> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >> "disabling" the button >> >> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>> >>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >>> still the expert on that! I am happy to help! >>> >>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>> >>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>> >>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>> >>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>> with whatever is simple >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>> anything? >>>>>> >>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 12:45:24 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:45:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting three backgrounds? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Four states for each button? > > Normal > Click > Off > Disabled > > I'll do the sections approach if that's OK > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... > > There are a few other places as well, like the login button... > > Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> The same size as they are now really >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >> ?wrote: >>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>> You need one, or several sizes? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> Change the file then for that one :) >>> >>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>> >>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>> "disabling" the button >>> >>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>> >>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >>>> still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >>>> >>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>> >>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>> >>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> >>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>> >>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders ? ?wrote: >>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>> ? etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 12:47:03 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:47:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41505@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> OK, so if I just take the current images folder and wipe all the text off? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 April 2012 12:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting three backgrounds? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Four states for each button? > > Normal > Click > Off > Disabled > > I'll do the sections approach if that's OK > > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... > > There are a few other places as well, like the login button... > > Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> The same size as they are now really >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >> ?wrote: >>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>> You need one, or several sizes? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> Change the file then for that one :) >>> >>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>> >>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>> "disabling" the button >>> >>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>> >>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >>>> still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >>>> >>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>> >>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>> >>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> >>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>> >>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders ? ?wrote: >>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>> ? etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>>>>>>> attachment >>>>>>>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>>>>>>> system: >>>>>>>> you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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Email communications with the >>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 12:48:38 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:48:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41505@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41505@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: It would be quicker to do that (in my mind) On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK, so if I just take the current images folder and wipe all the text off? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 12:45 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting > three backgrounds? > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Four states for each button? >> >> Normal >> Click >> Off >> Disabled >> >> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >> >> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >> >> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> The same size as they are now really >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>> ?wrote: >>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>> >>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>> >>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>> "disabling" the button >>>> >>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>> >>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >>>>> still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >>>>> >>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>> >>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>> >>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders ? ?wrote: >>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>> ? etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? 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From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 12:48:52 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:48:52 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41505@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41507@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Probably, I'll do that then. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 April 2012 12:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) It would be quicker to do that (in my mind) On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > OK, so if I just take the current images folder and wipe all the text off? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 12:45 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting > three backgrounds? > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Four states for each button? >> >> Normal >> Click >> Off >> Disabled >> >> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >> >> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >> >> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> The same size as they are now really >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>> >>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>> >>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>> "disabling" the button >>>> >>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>> >>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >>>>> still the expert on that! I am happy to help! >>>>> >>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>> >>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>> >>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>>>> legislation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 2 13:19:05 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:19:05 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: > sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting > three backgrounds? > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Four states for each button? >> >> Normal >> Click >> Off >> Disabled >> >> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >> >> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >> >> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> The same size as they are now really >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>> >>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>> >>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>> "disabling" the button >>>> >>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>> >>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >>>>> still the expert on that! I am happy to help! >>>>> >>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>> >>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>> >>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 2 13:20:42 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:20:42 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41505@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F79999A.4080203@tor.nl> No...., because sorry, you can't expect the translations to have the same length..... Op 2-4-2012 13:48, Pat Lockley schreef: > It would be quicker to do that (in my mind) > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> OK, so if I just take the current images folder and wipe all the text off? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:45 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >> three backgrounds? >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> Four states for each button? >>> >>> Normal >>> Click >>> Off >>> Disabled >>> >>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>> >>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> The same size as they are now really >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>> >>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>> >>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>> >>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>>> "disabling" the button >>>>> >>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >>>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >>>>>> still the expert on that! I am happy to help! >>>>>> >>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>> >>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >>>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >>>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the login >>>>>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. 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If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: >> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 13:21:28 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:21:28 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <4F79999A.4080203@tor.nl> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41505@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F79999A.4080203@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41540@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Good point. OK, well there are 54 variously sized buttons attached, I think the sliced approach probably sensible, but you can decide. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 02 April 2012 13:21 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) No...., because sorry, you can't expect the translations to have the same length..... Op 2-4-2012 13:48, Pat Lockley schreef: > It would be quicker to do that (in my mind) > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> OK, so if I just take the current images folder and wipe all the text off? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:45 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >> three backgrounds? >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> Four states for each button? >>> >>> Normal >>> Click >>> Off >>> Disabled >>> >>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>> >>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> The same size as they are now really >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>> >>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>> >>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>> >>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>>> "disabling" the button >>>>> >>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another resource >>>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, you're >>>>>> still the expert on that! I am happy to help! >>>>>> >>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>> >>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks the >>>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single quotes in >>>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen this >>>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection yet. >>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake of >>>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and parent_templates of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, thumbs >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I already >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) LO's >>>>>>>>>> 4. 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Name: Bttn_DuplicateOn.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 41015 bytes Desc: Bttn_DuplicateOn.zip URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 13:22:01 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:22:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> Message-ID: it's not much harder, but I am happy to go with which ever option. I would agree in different languages the buttons change length - but the buttons are squeezed in pretty tightly - so you might have to have some buttons with smaller text? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... > > Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >> three backgrounds? >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >> ?wrote: >>> >>> Four states for each button? >>> >>> Normal >>> Click >>> Off >>> Disabled >>> >>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>> >>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> >>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> The same size as they are now really >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>> >>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>> >>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>> >>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>> >>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>>> "disabling" the button >>>>> >>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another >>>>>> resource >>>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, >>>>>> you're >>>>>> still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >>>>>> >>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>> >>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks >>>>>> the >>>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single >>>>>> quotes in >>>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection >>>>>>>>> yet. >>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and >>>>>>>>>> parent_templates of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, >>>>>>>>>> thumbs >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I >>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether >>>>>>>>>> 'en', >>>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>>> ? etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) >>>>>>>>>> LO's >>>>>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the >>>>>>>>>> login >>>>>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>>>>>> addressee >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >>>> the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>> legislation. >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Mon Apr 2 15:11:59 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:11:59 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Right to left languages in xerte In-Reply-To: <4F79AC51.3060103@umn.edu> References: <4F79AC51.3060103@umn.edu> Message-ID: <4F79B3AF.5040600@tor.nl> Don't really know the answer to that.... Op 2-4-2012 15:40, Jonathan Paradise schreef: > > Tom, > > will the language kit include right-to-left languages like Hebrew and > Arabic. Especially the ability to word wrap and have the cursor move > to the left as it follows the latest character that is typed? > > Jonathan Paradise > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 15:32:53 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 15:32:53 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Right to left languages in xerte In-Reply-To: <4F79B3AF.5040600@tor.nl> References: <4F79AC51.3060103@umn.edu> <4F79B3AF.5040600@tor.nl> Message-ID: I wondered this, I am happy to try to code it for the browser, but what does flash do? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Don't really know the answer to that.... > > > Op 2-4-2012 15:40, Jonathan Paradise schreef: > > Tom, > > will the language kit include right-to-left languages like Hebrew and > Arabic. Especially the ability to word wrap and have the cursor move to the > left as it follows the latest character that is typed? > > Jonathan Paradise > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 16:07:03 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:07:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Right to left languages in xerte In-Reply-To: References: <4F79AC51.3060103@umn.edu> <4F79B3AF.5040600@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B41676@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Old flash doesn't: you have to fake it smoke and mirrors style. New Flash has some jiggery-pokery to support LTR languages, but you'll have to read up on it if you need to know more than that. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 April 2012 15:33 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Right to left languages in xerte I wondered this, I am happy to try to code it for the browser, but what does flash do? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Don't really know the answer to that.... > > > Op 2-4-2012 15:40, Jonathan Paradise schreef: > > Tom, > > will the language kit include right-to-left languages like Hebrew and > Arabic. Especially the ability to word wrap and have the cursor move to the > left as it follows the latest character that is typed? > > Jonathan Paradise > > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 16:35:35 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:35:35 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Can you measure text in a given size / font in javascript? So given a string, you can work out how many pixels is needed? Flash had getTextExtent which was useful for making sure everything sizes nicely. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 April 2012 13:22 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) it's not much harder, but I am happy to go with which ever option. I would agree in different languages the buttons change length - but the buttons are squeezed in pretty tightly - so you might have to have some buttons with smaller text? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... > > Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >> three backgrounds? >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> >>> Four states for each button? >>> >>> Normal >>> Click >>> Off >>> Disabled >>> >>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>> >>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>> >>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> The same size as they are now really >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>> >>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>> >>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>> >>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>> >>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>>> "disabling" the button >>>>> >>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another >>>>>> resource >>>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, >>>>>> you're >>>>>> still the expert on that! I am happy to help! >>>>>> >>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>> >>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks >>>>>> the >>>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single >>>>>> quotes in >>>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection >>>>>>>>> yet. >>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and >>>>>>>>>> parent_templates of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, >>>>>>>>>> thumbs >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I >>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether >>>>>>>>>> 'en', >>>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) >>>>>>>>>> LO's >>>>>>>>>> 4. I can't preview or run them, the browser blocks (The first page >>>>>>>>>> loads, >>>>>>>>>> but after that I can't do anything) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to have a peek, I'll give you the URL and the >>>>>>>>>> login >>>>>>>>>> credentials by PM. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>>>>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>>>>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>>>>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>>>>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>>>>>>> addressee >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with >>>> the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>> legislation. >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 16:48:45 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:48:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: probably, but i don't want to spend ages on it, maybe an hour tops, so it might be which ever is easiest (and if your text don't fit, you can shrink it) On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Can you measure text in a given size / font in javascript? So given a string, you can work out how many pixels is needed? Flash had getTextExtent which was useful for making sure everything sizes nicely. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 13:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > it's not much harder, but I am happy to go with which ever option. > > I would agree in different languages the buttons change length - but > the buttons are squeezed in pretty tightly - so you might have to have > some buttons with smaller text? > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... >> >> Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >>> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >>> three backgrounds? >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >>> ?wrote: >>>> >>>> Four states for each button? >>>> >>>> Normal >>>> Click >>>> Off >>>> Disabled >>>> >>>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>>> >>>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>>> >>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> >>>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>> >>>>> The same size as they are now really >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>> >>>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>> >>>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>>> >>>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>>>> "disabling" the button >>>>>> >>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another >>>>>>> resource >>>>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, >>>>>>> you're >>>>>>> still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single >>>>>>> quotes in >>>>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection >>>>>>>>>> yet. >>>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and >>>>>>>>>>> parent_templates of >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, >>>>>>>>>>> thumbs >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I >>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Apr 2 16:51:03 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:51:03 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416F6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> You'll need to find a library to do it, and even then, on different devices, you won't get a good result, so it's probably not worth it. I think Flash could only do it because it knew how it was going to render the fonts. I bet you Arial 10pt is different on different devices running different resolutions, and mobiles have some other dpi thing going on with respect to resolution / screen size. -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 April 2012 16:49 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) probably, but i don't want to spend ages on it, maybe an hour tops, so it might be which ever is easiest (and if your text don't fit, you can shrink it) On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > Can you measure text in a given size / font in javascript? So given a string, you can work out how many pixels is needed? Flash had getTextExtent which was useful for making sure everything sizes nicely. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 13:22 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > it's not much harder, but I am happy to go with which ever option. > > I would agree in different languages the buttons change length - but > the buttons are squeezed in pretty tightly - so you might have to have > some buttons with smaller text? > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... >> >> Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: >> >>> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >>> three backgrounds? >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Four states for each button? >>>> >>>> Normal >>>> Click >>>> Off >>>> Disabled >>>> >>>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>>> >>>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>>> >>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>> >>>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>> >>>>> The same size as they are now really >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>> >>>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>> >>>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>>> >>>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>>>> "disabling" the button >>>>>> >>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another >>>>>>> resource >>>>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, >>>>>>> you're >>>>>>> still the expert on that! I am happy to help! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single >>>>>>> quotes in >>>>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection >>>>>>>>>> yet. >>>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and >>>>>>>>>>> parent_templates of >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, >>>>>>>>>>> thumbs >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I >>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether >>>>>>>>>>> 'en', >>>>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) >>>>>>>>>>> LO's >>>>>>>>>>> 4. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Tom Reijnders >> TOR Informatica >> Chopinlaan 27 >> 5242HM Rosmalen >> Tel: 073 5226191 >> Fax: 073 5226196 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 16:59:16 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:59:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416F6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416F6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: and then you've user styles sheets and text sizes. it'll be getting ugly. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > You'll need to find a library to do it, and even then, on different devices, you won't get a good result, so it's probably not worth it. I think Flash could only do it because it knew how it was going to render the fonts. I bet you Arial 10pt is different on different devices running different resolutions, and mobiles have some other dpi thing going on with respect to resolution / screen size. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 16:49 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > probably, but i don't want to spend ages on it, maybe an hour tops, so > it might be which ever is easiest (and if your text don't fit, you can > shrink it) > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Can you measure text in a given size / font in javascript? So given a string, you can work out how many pixels is needed? Flash had getTextExtent which was useful for making sure everything sizes nicely. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 13:22 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> it's not much harder, but I am happy to go with which ever option. >> >> I would agree in different languages the buttons change length - but >> the buttons are squeezed in pretty tightly - so you might have to have >> some buttons with smaller text? >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>>> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >>>> three backgrounds? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Four states for each button? >>>>> >>>>> Normal >>>>> Click >>>>> Off >>>>> Disabled >>>>> >>>>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>> >>>>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>>>> >>>>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>> >>>>>> The same size as they are now really >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to handle >>>>>>> "disabling" the button >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just another >>>>>>>> resource >>>>>>>> in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, ehmm, >>>>>>>> you're >>>>>>>> still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it breaks >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, etc uses single >>>>>>>> quotes in >>>>>>>> stead of double quotes.... That breaks my parser!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy to go >>>>>>>>> with whatever is simple >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable (I've seen >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> working on joomla through css tricks on a HTML link) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language detection >>>>>>>>>>> yet. >>>>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler showing >>>>>>>>>>> anything? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for the sake >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> simplicity). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and >>>>>>>>>>>> parent_templates of >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> live xot >>>>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the models, >>>>>>>>>>>> thumbs >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> generated xwd;s from the page based xwd's >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but I >>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> few observations: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. We should use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether >>>>>>>>>>>> 'en', >>>>>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>>>>> ? etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing (upgraded) >>>>>>>>>>>> LO's >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. 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Email communications with >>>>>> the >>>>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK >>>>>> legislation. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Tom Reijnders >>>>> TOR Informatica >>>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Tom Reijnders >>> TOR Informatica >>> Chopinlaan 27 >>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Mon Apr 2 18:13:23 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:13:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416F6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <003001cd10f3$eb363cb0$c1a2b610$@co.uk> Just a thought - Would it be better (less flexible but perhaps more reliable) to leave the text embedded in the buttons and have different button sets for each language e.g. someone doing a translation also creates a set of buttons from a master set of PSD files? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 02 April 2012 16:59 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) and then you've user styles sheets and text sizes. it'll be getting ugly. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > You'll need to find a library to do it, and even then, on different devices, you won't get a good result, so it's probably not worth it. I think Flash could only do it because it knew how it was going to render the fonts. I bet you Arial 10pt is different on different devices running different resolutions, and mobiles have some other dpi thing going on with respect to resolution / screen size. > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat > Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 16:49 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > probably, but i don't want to spend ages on it, maybe an hour tops, so > it might be which ever is easiest (and if your text don't fit, you can > shrink it) > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> Can you measure text in a given size / font in javascript? So given a string, you can work out how many pixels is needed? Flash had getTextExtent which was useful for making sure everything sizes nicely. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 13:22 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> it's not much harder, but I am happy to go with which ever option. >> >> I would agree in different languages the buttons change length - but >> the buttons are squeezed in pretty tightly - so you might have to >> have some buttons with smaller text? >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... >>> >>> Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: >>> >>>> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >>>> three backgrounds? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Four states for each button? >>>>> >>>>> Normal >>>>> Click >>>>> Off >>>>> Disabled >>>>> >>>>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>> Reijnders >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>> >>>>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>>>> >>>>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>> >>>>>> The same size as they are now really >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to >>>>>>> handle "disabling" the button >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just >>>>>>>> another resource in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, >>>>>>>> ehmm, you're still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it >>>>>>>> breaks the pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, >>>>>>>> etc uses single quotes in stead of double quotes.... That >>>>>>>> breaks my parser!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy >>>>>>>>> to go with whatever is simple >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom >>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable >>>>>>>>>> (I've seen this working on joomla through css tricks on a >>>>>>>>>> HTML link) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language >>>>>>>>>>> detection yet. >>>>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler >>>>>>>>>>> showing anything? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for >>>>>>>>>>> the sake of simplicity). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom >>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch translation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and >>>>>>>>>>>> parent_templates of the live xot >>>>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the >>>>>>>>>>>> models, thumbs and generated xwd;s from the page based >>>>>>>>>>>> xwd's >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but >>>>>>>>>>>> I already have a few observations: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out 2. 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From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Mon Apr 2 18:14:14 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:14:14 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <003001cd10f3$eb363cb0$c1a2b610$@co.uk> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <4F797FA5.8080009@tor.nl> <4F79818F.9010106@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416F6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003001cd10f3$eb363cb0$c1a2b610$@co.uk> Message-ID: PSDs aren't open though? Maybe via a png and GD? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: > Just a thought - Would it be better (less flexible but perhaps more > reliable) to leave the text embedded in the buttons and have different > button sets for each language e.g. someone doing a translation also creates > a set of buttons from a master set of PSD files? > > -----Original Message----- > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley > Sent: 02 April 2012 16:59 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) > > and then you've user styles sheets and text sizes. it'll be getting ugly. > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> You'll need to find a library to do it, and even then, on different > devices, you won't get a good result, so it's probably not worth it. I think > Flash could only do it because it knew how it was going to render the fonts. > I bet you Arial 10pt is different on different devices running different > resolutions, and mobiles have some other dpi thing going on with respect to > resolution / screen size. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >> Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 16:49 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> probably, but i don't want to spend ages on it, maybe an hour tops, so >> it might be which ever is easiest (and if your text don't fit, you can >> shrink it) >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> Can you measure text in a given size / font in javascript? So given a > string, you can work out how many pixels is needed? Flash had getTextExtent > which was useful for making sure everything sizes nicely. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 13:22 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> it's not much harder, but I am happy to go with which ever option. >>> >>> I would agree in different languages the buttons change length - but >>> the buttons are squeezed in pretty tightly - so you might have to >>> have some buttons with smaller text? >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... >>>> >>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>> >>>>> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >>>>> three backgrounds? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Four states for each button? >>>>>> >>>>>> Normal >>>>>> Click >>>>>> Off >>>>>> Disabled >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>> >>>>>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>>>>> >>>>>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The same size as they are now really >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to >>>>>>>> handle "disabling" the button >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just >>>>>>>>> another resource in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, >>>>>>>>> ehmm, you're still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it >>>>>>>>> breaks the pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, >>>>>>>>> etc uses single quotes in stead of double quotes.... That >>>>>>>>> breaks my parser!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy >>>>>>>>>> to go with whatever is simple >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom >>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable >>>>>>>>>>> (I've seen this working on joomla through css tricks on a >>>>>>>>>>> HTML link) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language >>>>>>>>>>>> detection yet. >>>>>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler >>>>>>>>>>>> showing anything? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for >>>>>>>>>>>> the sake of simplicity). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch > translation. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and >>>>>>>>>>>>> parent_templates of the live xot >>>>>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the >>>>>>>>>>>>> models, thumbs and generated xwd;s from the page based >>>>>>>>>>>>> xwd's >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> I already have a few observations: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out 2. We should >>>>>>>>>>>>> use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing >>>>>>>>>>>>> (upgraded) LO's 4. 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Email communications >>>>> with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK > legislation. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Tom Reijnders >>>> TOR Informatica >>>> Chopinlaan 27 >>>> 5242HM Rosmalen >>>> Tel: 073 5226191 >>>> Fax: 073 5226196 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. ? Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. ?Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Apr 3 08:13:06 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 09:13:06 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416F6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003001cd10f3$eb363cb0$c1a2b610$@co.uk> Message-ID: <4F7AA302.8060705@tor.nl> Let me give a try this week. I agree that image buttons should work, but I would prefer to set the text in the translation tool. Much cleaner... You don't have to worry about too much about the width. HTML will solve that (I think) Op 2-4-2012 19:14, Pat Lockley schreef: > PSDs aren't open though? Maybe via a png and GD? > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Ron Mitchell wrote: >> Just a thought - Would it be better (less flexible but perhaps more >> reliable) to leave the text embedded in the buttons and have different >> button sets for each language e.g. someone doing a translation also creates >> a set of buttons from a master set of PSD files? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley >> Sent: 02 April 2012 16:59 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >> >> and then you've user styles sheets and text sizes. it'll be getting ugly. >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> You'll need to find a library to do it, and even then, on different >> devices, you won't get a good result, so it's probably not worth it. I think >> Flash could only do it because it knew how it was going to render the fonts. >> I bet you Arial 10pt is different on different devices running different >> resolutions, and mobiles have some other dpi thing going on with respect to >> resolution / screen size. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 16:49 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> probably, but i don't want to spend ages on it, maybe an hour tops, so >>> it might be which ever is easiest (and if your text don't fit, you can >>> shrink it) >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> Can you measure text in a given size / font in javascript? So given a >> string, you can work out how many pixels is needed? Flash had getTextExtent >> which was useful for making sure everything sizes nicely. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 13:22 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> it's not much harder, but I am happy to go with which ever option. >>>> >>>> I would agree in different languages the buttons change length - but >>>> the buttons are squeezed in pretty tightly - so you might have to >>>> have some buttons with smaller text? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>>> Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... >>>>> >>>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>> >>>>>> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >>>>>> three backgrounds? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Four states for each button? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Normal >>>>>>> Click >>>>>>> Off >>>>>>> Disabled >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The same size as they are now really >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to >>>>>>>>> handle "disabling" the button >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just >>>>>>>>>> another resource in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, >>>>>>>>>> ehmm, you're still the expert on that! I am happy to help! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it >>>>>>>>>> breaks the pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, >>>>>>>>>> etc uses single quotes in stead of double quotes.... That >>>>>>>>>> breaks my parser!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy >>>>>>>>>>> to go with whatever is simple >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom >>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable >>>>>>>>>>>> (I've seen this working on joomla through css tricks on a >>>>>>>>>>>> HTML link) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language >>>>>>>>>>>>> detection yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler >>>>>>>>>>>>> showing anything? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the sake of simplicity). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch >> translation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> parent_templates of the live xot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> models, thumbs and generated xwd;s from the page based >>>>>>>>>>>>>> xwd's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already have a few observations: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out 2. We should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (upgraded) LO's 4. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Apr 3 09:38:42 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:38:42 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) In-Reply-To: <4F7AA302.8060705@tor.nl> References: <4F797874.40405@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414E5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414F3@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F798FAF.6090102@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B414FE@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F799939.2090304@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416CA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5B416F6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <003001cd10f3$eb363cb0$c1a2b610$@co.uk> <4F7AA302.8060705@tor.nl> Message-ID: The major thing is the space for the buttons, it can't really expand. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Let me give a try this week. I agree that image buttons should work, but I > would prefer to set the text in the translation tool. > > Much cleaner... > > You don't have to worry about too much about the width. HTML will solve that > (I think) > > Op 2-4-2012 19:14, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> PSDs aren't open though? Maybe via a png and GD? >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Ron Mitchell >> ?wrote: >>> >>> Just a thought - Would it be better (less flexible but perhaps more >>> reliable) to leave the text embedded in the buttons and have different >>> button sets for each language e.g. someone doing a translation also >>> creates >>> a set of buttons from a master set of PSD files? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>> Lockley >>> Sent: 02 April 2012 16:59 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>> >>> and then you've user styles sheets and text sizes. it'll be getting ugly. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Julian Tenney >>> ?wrote: >>>> >>>> You'll need to find a library to do it, and even then, on different >>> >>> devices, you won't get a good result, so it's probably not worth it. I >>> think >>> Flash could only do it because it knew how it was going to render the >>> fonts. >>> I bet you Arial 10pt is different on different devices running different >>> resolutions, and mobiles have some other dpi thing going on with respect >>> to >>> resolution / screen size. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>> Lockley >>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 16:49 >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>> >>>> probably, but i don't want to spend ages on it, maybe an hour tops, so >>>> it might be which ever is easiest (and if your text don't fit, you can >>>> shrink it) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Julian Tenney >>>> ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can you measure text in a given size / font in javascript? So given a >>> >>> string, you can work out how many pixels is needed? Flash had >>> getTextExtent >>> which was useful for making sure everything sizes nicely. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat >>>>> Lockley >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 13:22 >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>> >>>>> it's not much harder, but I am happy to go with which ever option. >>>>> >>>>> I would agree in different languages the buttons change length - but >>>>> the buttons are squeezed in pretty tightly - so you might have to >>>>> have some buttons with smaller text? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Come on...., this is such a standard technique.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:45, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>> >>>>>>> sections will make the HTML a load harder because you'll be setting >>>>>>> three backgrounds? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Four states for each button? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Normal >>>>>>>> Click >>>>>>>> Off >>>>>>>> Disabled >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll do the sections approach if that's OK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:38 >>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or a left side, middle (that can be stretched) and right side... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are a few other places as well, like the login button... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 13:33, Julian Tenney schreef: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> These being the buttons for the top row of the workspace? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:31 >>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The same size as they are now really >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Julian Tenney >>>>>>>>> ? ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You need one, or several sizes? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>> Pat Lockley >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2012 12:11 >>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Testing of 1.8/2.18 (buttons) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Change the file then for that one :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also should they be prefixed INDEX_ ? seems a good policy >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The label is a resource, but they'd need to be some JS work to >>>>>>>>>> handle "disabling" the button >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can Nottingham provide blank buttons? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Tom Reijnders >>>>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We/I can create blank buttons.... than, the label is just >>>>>>>>>>> another resource in one of the inc files. Correct? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ehmm... I would say, yes, dow whatever is the simplest, but, >>>>>>>>>>> ehmm, you're still the expert on that! ?I am happy to help! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Generating a translation of the inc files workes very smoothly! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We have a Dutch XOT up and running because of that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Only the index.inc (rootlevel) caused some issues, because it >>>>>>>>>>> breaks the pattern. The defines for the LOGIN_AREA, USERNAME, >>>>>>>>>>> etc uses single quotes in stead of double quotes.... That >>>>>>>>>>> breaks my parser!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:33, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we don't have "blank" buttons though - with those we could do >>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Drupal and WordPress use CSS to make the button - I am happy >>>>>>>>>>>> to go with whatever is simple >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>> ?wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, we could just use links of course, but it is doable >>>>>>>>>>>>> (I've seen this working on joomla through css tricks on a >>>>>>>>>>>>> HTML link) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 2-4-2012 12:16, Pat Lockley schreef: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No work has happened in index.php to allow for language >>>>>>>>>>>>>> detection yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the flash load when the preview / play fails? Fiddler >>>>>>>>>>>>>> showing anything? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would get rid of the buttons and just use links now (for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sake of simplicity). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We (Inge and I) finished the first round of the Dutch >>> >>> translation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I installed a fresh xot from svn trunk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied an existing xot database (1.7) as the basis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I copied all the USER_FILES and the templates and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parent_templates of the live xot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I 'upgraded' all the parent_templates by copying the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> models, thumbs and generated xwd;s from the page based >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xwd's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do very much with it just yet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already have a few observations: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The language selection has to be sorted out 2. We should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use one mechanism for the language parameter, ether 'en', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'nl', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? etc or 'en-gb', 'nl-nl' etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The first tests show, that you can edit existing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (upgraded) LO's 4. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 3 12:03:58 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:03:58 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Message-ID: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 3 13:11:00 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:11:00 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Many thanks for this: I think we should try and identify pieces of work that need doing before we can get the test server set up and complete them; then we should lock down the functionality and test the heck out of what we've got. I think Pat's work is complete on the language stuff bar the buttons stuff being discussed? I'm not sure if there's anything you need me to do? Time is a bit limited the next three weeks... You guys know the score with the templates better than I do, but I sense it is more or less there So hopefully not too much to do before we can get Ron to host a beta 1 version, and then have a lis of issues, fix them in the svn, maybe a weekly upgrade through betas 2 - n until we're done? Aim for end of May? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 03 April 2012 12:04 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk Tue Apr 3 13:15:31 2012 From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk (Ron Mitchell) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:15:31 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <007b01cd1193$7b0b5f60$71221e20$@co.uk> Did you mean end of May or end of March? I though the latter was the target? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 03 April 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Many thanks for this: I think we should try and identify pieces of work that need doing before we can get the test server set up and complete them; then we should lock down the functionality and test the heck out of what we've got. I think Pat's work is complete on the language stuff bar the buttons stuff being discussed? I'm not sure if there's anything you need me to do? Time is a bit limited the next three weeks. You guys know the score with the templates better than I do, but I sense it is more or less there So hopefully not too much to do before we can get Ron to host a beta 1 version, and then have a lis of issues, fix them in the svn, maybe a weekly upgrade through betas 2 - n until we're done? Aim for end of May? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 03 April 2012 12:04 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 3 13:21:59 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:21:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <007b01cd1193$7b0b5f60$71221e20$@co.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007b01cd1193$7b0b5f60$71221e20$@co.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think we need a number of weeks realistically: if you want to set an earlier deadline then feel free, but I sense end May may be realistic to work all the issues through, add anything we find along the way, and then get a zip built. What do others think? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell Sent: 03 April 2012 13:16 To: 'For Xerte technical developers' Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Did you mean end of May or end of March? I though the latter was the target? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 03 April 2012 13:11 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Many thanks for this: I think we should try and identify pieces of work that need doing before we can get the test server set up and complete them; then we should lock down the functionality and test the heck out of what we've got. I think Pat's work is complete on the language stuff bar the buttons stuff being discussed? I'm not sure if there's anything you need me to do? Time is a bit limited the next three weeks... You guys know the score with the templates better than I do, but I sense it is more or less there So hopefully not too much to do before we can get Ron to host a beta 1 version, and then have a lis of issues, fix them in the svn, maybe a weekly upgrade through betas 2 - n until we're done? Aim for end of May? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 03 April 2012 12:04 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Apr 3 14:17:48 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:17:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007b01cd1193$7b0b5f60$71221e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I think Tom is doing buttons now? The only obvious thing is having a language selection for index.php I think the end of March is erm, unrealistic as a release date The main thing I think is what happens in trunk - as in nothing new should be added (i.e create branch 1.9 and then do nothing until 1.8 is released). On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: > I think we need a number of weeks realistically: if you want to set an > earlier deadline then feel free, but I sense end May may be realistic to > work all the issues through, add anything we find along the way, and then > get a zip built. What do others think? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell > Sent: 03 April 2012 13:16 > > > To: 'For Xerte technical developers' > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > Did you mean end of May or end of March? I though the latter was the target? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney > Sent: 03 April 2012 13:11 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > Many thanks for this: I think we should try and identify pieces of work that > need doing before we can get the test server set up and complete them; then > we should lock down the functionality and test the heck out of what we?ve > got. > > > > I think Pat?s work is complete on the language stuff bar the buttons stuff > being discussed? > > I?m not sure if there?s anything you need me to do? Time is a bit limited > the next three weeks? > > You guys know the score with the templates better than I do, but I sense it > is more or less there > > > > So hopefully not too much to do before we can get Ron to host a beta 1 > version, and then have a lis of issues, fix them in the svn, maybe a weekly > upgrade through betas 2 ? n until we?re done? > > > > Aim for end of May? > > > > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp > Johnathan > Sent: 03 April 2012 12:04 > To: Xerte Developers Discussion List > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1.????? With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any > changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2.????? With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. > Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the > php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the > template.xwd file. > > 3.????? With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files > are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files > (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4.????? In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5.????? I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > ?modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6.????? Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and > where will they be located? > > 7.????? My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8.????? Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the > situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for > testing? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From reijnders at tor.nl Tue Apr 3 14:36:29 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:36:29 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007b01cd1193$7b0b5f60$71221e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F7AFCDD.1080404@tor.nl> Yes, I'll try to tackle the buttons... We need to sort out the way we select languages across the board (UI and also language string, i.e 'en' v.s. 'en-GB') Op 3-4-2012 15:17, Pat Lockley schreef: > I think Tom is doing buttons now? > > The only obvious thing is having a language selection for index.php > > I think the end of March is erm, unrealistic as a release date > > The main thing I think is what happens in trunk - as in nothing new > should be added (i.e create branch 1.9 and then do nothing until 1.8 > is released). > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I think we need a number of weeks realistically: if you want to set an >> earlier deadline then feel free, but I sense end May may be realistic to >> work all the issues through, add anything we find along the way, and then >> get a zip built. What do others think? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 03 April 2012 13:16 >> >> >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> Did you mean end of May or end of March? I though the latter was the target? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 03 April 2012 13:11 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> Many thanks for this: I think we should try and identify pieces of work that >> need doing before we can get the test server set up and complete them; then >> we should lock down the functionality and test the heck out of what we?ve >> got. >> >> >> >> I think Pat?s work is complete on the language stuff bar the buttons stuff >> being discussed? >> >> I?m not sure if there?s anything you need me to do? Time is a bit limited >> the next three weeks? >> >> You guys know the score with the templates better than I do, but I sense it >> is more or less there >> >> >> >> So hopefully not too much to do before we can get Ron to host a beta 1 >> version, and then have a lis of issues, fix them in the svn, maybe a weekly >> upgrade through betas 2 ? n until we?re done? >> >> >> >> Aim for end of May? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 03 April 2012 12:04 >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure >> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is >> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the >> road. >> >> >> >> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any >> changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >> >> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. >> Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the >> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the >> template.xwd file. >> >> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files >> are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files >> (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> >> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >> individual xwd files. >> >> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> >> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and >> where will they be located? >> >> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to >> consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can >> download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >> >> 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the >> situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for >> testing? >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Tue Apr 3 14:43:38 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:43:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <4F7AFCDD.1080404@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007b01cd1193$7b0b5f60$71221e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7AFCDD.1080404@tor.nl> Message-ID: I think it should be 2 and 2 i.e EN-GB re buttons - look in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js function button_check() line 290 think all of the button code is there On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Yes, I'll try to tackle the buttons... > > We need to sort out the way we select languages across the board (UI and > also language string, i.e 'en' v.s. 'en-GB') > > > Op 3-4-2012 15:17, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> I think Tom is doing buttons now? >> >> The only obvious thing is having a language selection for index.php >> >> I think the end of March is erm, unrealistic as a release date >> >> The main thing I think is what happens in trunk - as in nothing new >> should be added (i.e create branch 1.9 and then do nothing until 1.8 >> is released). >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Julian Tenney >> ?wrote: >>> >>> I think we need a number of weeks realistically: if you want to set an >>> earlier deadline then feel free, but I sense end May may be realistic to >>> work all the issues through, add anything we find along the way, and then >>> get a zip built. What do others think? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron >>> Mitchell >>> Sent: 03 April 2012 13:16 >>> >>> >>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> Did you mean end of May or end of March? I though the latter was the >>> target? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian >>> Tenney >>> Sent: 03 April 2012 13:11 >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> Many thanks for this: I think we should try and identify pieces of work >>> that >>> need doing before we can get the test server set up and complete them; >>> then >>> we should lock down the functionality and test the heck out of what we?ve >>> got. >>> >>> >>> >>> I think Pat?s work is complete on the language stuff bar the buttons >>> stuff >>> being discussed? >>> >>> I?m not sure if there?s anything you need me to do? Time is a bit limited >>> the next three weeks? >>> >>> You guys know the score with the templates better than I do, but I sense >>> it >>> is more or less there >>> >>> >>> >>> So hopefully not too much to do before we can get Ron to host a beta 1 >>> version, and then have a lis of issues, fix them in the svn, maybe a >>> weekly >>> upgrade through betas 2 ? n until we?re done? >>> >>> >>> >>> Aim for end of May? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 03 April 2012 12:04 >>> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >>> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not >>> sure >>> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication >>> is >>> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on >>> the >>> road. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. ? ? ?With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >>> any >>> changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >>> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way >>> that >>> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed >>> any >>> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. >>> If >>> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they >>> need >>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >>> >>> 2. ? ? ?With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >>> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >>> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >>> project. >>> Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain >>> the >>> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build >>> the >>> template.xwd file. >>> >>> 3. ? ? ?With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >>> files >>> are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model >>> files >>> (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >>> >>> 4. ? ? ?In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain >>> the >>> individual xwd files. >>> >>> 5. ? ? ?I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >>> ?modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >>> >>> 6. ? ? ?Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >>> and >>> where will they be located? >>> >>> 7. ? ? ?My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to >>> consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can >>> download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >>> >>> 8. ? ? ?Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the >>> situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready >>> for >>> testing? >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >>> may contain confidential information. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 3 15:14:41 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:14:41 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <4F7AFCDD.1080404@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007b01cd1193$7b0b5f60$71221e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7AFCDD.1080404@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA1B2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> So I need to make some amendments to the engine stuff that uses english, right? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 April 2012 14:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Yes, I'll try to tackle the buttons... We need to sort out the way we select languages across the board (UI and also language string, i.e 'en' v.s. 'en-GB') Op 3-4-2012 15:17, Pat Lockley schreef: > I think Tom is doing buttons now? > > The only obvious thing is having a language selection for index.php > > I think the end of March is erm, unrealistic as a release date > > The main thing I think is what happens in trunk - as in nothing new > should be added (i.e create branch 1.9 and then do nothing until 1.8 > is released). > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I think we need a number of weeks realistically: if you want to set an >> earlier deadline then feel free, but I sense end May may be realistic to >> work all the issues through, add anything we find along the way, and then >> get a zip built. What do others think? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 03 April 2012 13:16 >> >> >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> Did you mean end of May or end of March? I though the latter was the target? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 03 April 2012 13:11 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> Many thanks for this: I think we should try and identify pieces of work that >> need doing before we can get the test server set up and complete them; then >> we should lock down the functionality and test the heck out of what we've >> got. >> >> >> >> I think Pat's work is complete on the language stuff bar the buttons stuff >> being discussed? >> >> I'm not sure if there's anything you need me to do? Time is a bit limited >> the next three weeks... >> >> You guys know the score with the templates better than I do, but I sense it >> is more or less there >> >> >> >> So hopefully not too much to do before we can get Ron to host a beta 1 >> version, and then have a lis of issues, fix them in the svn, maybe a weekly >> upgrade through betas 2 - n until we're done? >> >> >> >> Aim for end of May? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 03 April 2012 12:04 >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure >> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is >> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the >> road. >> >> >> >> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any >> changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >> >> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. >> Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the >> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the >> template.xwd file. >> >> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files >> are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files >> (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> >> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >> individual xwd files. >> >> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> >> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and >> where will they be located? >> >> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to >> consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can >> download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >> >> 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the >> situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for >> testing? >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 3 15:16:24 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:16:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA1B2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <007b01cd1193$7b0b5f60$71221e20$@co.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA0EA@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7AFCDD.1080404@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA1B2@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA1B9@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Is it en-GB? i.e. two lowercase chars, followed by a hyphen followed by two upper case chars? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney Sent: 03 April 2012 15:15 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs So I need to make some amendments to the engine stuff that uses english, right? -----Original Message----- From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 03 April 2012 14:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Yes, I'll try to tackle the buttons... We need to sort out the way we select languages across the board (UI and also language string, i.e 'en' v.s. 'en-GB') Op 3-4-2012 15:17, Pat Lockley schreef: > I think Tom is doing buttons now? > > The only obvious thing is having a language selection for index.php > > I think the end of March is erm, unrealistic as a release date > > The main thing I think is what happens in trunk - as in nothing new > should be added (i.e create branch 1.9 and then do nothing until 1.8 > is released). > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Julian Tenney > wrote: >> I think we need a number of weeks realistically: if you want to set an >> earlier deadline then feel free, but I sense end May may be realistic to >> work all the issues through, add anything we find along the way, and then >> get a zip built. What do others think? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell >> Sent: 03 April 2012 13:16 >> >> >> To: 'For Xerte technical developers' >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> Did you mean end of May or end of March? I though the latter was the target? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney >> Sent: 03 April 2012 13:11 >> To: For Xerte technical developers >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> Many thanks for this: I think we should try and identify pieces of work that >> need doing before we can get the test server set up and complete them; then >> we should lock down the functionality and test the heck out of what we've >> got. >> >> >> >> I think Pat's work is complete on the language stuff bar the buttons stuff >> being discussed? >> >> I'm not sure if there's anything you need me to do? Time is a bit limited >> the next three weeks... >> >> You guys know the score with the templates better than I do, but I sense it >> is more or less there >> >> >> >> So hopefully not too much to do before we can get Ron to host a beta 1 >> version, and then have a lis of issues, fix them in the svn, maybe a weekly >> upgrade through betas 2 - n until we're done? >> >> >> >> Aim for end of May? >> >> >> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >> Johnathan >> Sent: 03 April 2012 12:04 >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure >> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is >> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the >> road. >> >> >> >> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any >> changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >> >> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. >> Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the >> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the >> template.xwd file. >> >> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files >> are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files >> (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> >> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >> individual xwd files. >> >> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> >> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and >> where will they be located? >> >> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to >> consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can >> download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >> >> 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the >> situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for >> testing? >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 12:08:57 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:08:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any > changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and > where will they be located? > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the > situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for > testing? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 4 12:52:40 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:52:40 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Apr 4 13:08:31 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:08:31 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120404140831.48660d7tffqp903j@server.tor.nl> I have not changed anything (yet) First want to have the vbasic translation and basic testing in place. Citeren Kemp Johnathan : > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, > missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and > replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the > individual xwds. > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete > the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you > will know best. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure >> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is >> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the >> road. >> >> >> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any >> changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing >> the way that >> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not >> noticed any >> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of >> the svn. If >> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files >> as they need >> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >> project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to >> contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >> that build the template.xwd file. >> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the >> model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will >> contain the >> individual xwd files. >> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and >> where will they be located? >> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to >> consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can >> download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >> 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the >> situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte >> build ready for >> testing? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have > received this message in error, please send it back to me, and > immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the > information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any > views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: > you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 14:45:10 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 14:45:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney wrote: > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, > edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's > php scripts from the individual xwds. > > > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in > which you will know best. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made > any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server > and where will they be located? > > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the > situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for > testing? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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[cid:image001.png at 01CD1273.FC10F080] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 15:19:18 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:19:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney wrote: > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t > start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > OK latest update. > > > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in > the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a > project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that > some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in > Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he > should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for > testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language > features. > > > > Re. Xerte > > > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough > to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which > files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the > new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime > then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, > edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's > php scripts from the individual xwds. > > > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in > which you will know best. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made > any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server > and where will they be located? > > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the > situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for > testing? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 15:32:26 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:32:26 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > Whoops! > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include > the latest bits from a test project :-( > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t >> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> OK latest update. >> >> >> >> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a >> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that >> some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he >> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >> features. >> >> >> >> Re. Xerte >> >> >> >> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough >> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which >> files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the >> new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime >> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >> >> >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder >> wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's >> php scripts from the individual xwds. >> >> >> >> This should provide a working set of models to test. >> >> >> >> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these >> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >> >> >> >> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >> >> >> >> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in >> which you will know best. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >> wrote: >> >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure >> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is >> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the >> road. >> >> >> >> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >> >> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >> project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to >> contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >> that build the template.xwd file. >> >> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the >> model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> >> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >> individual xwd files. >> >> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> >> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >> and where will they be located? >> >> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need >> to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he >> can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >> >> 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review >> the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready >> for testing? >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and >> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in >> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not >> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do >> not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: not available URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 15:50:24 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:50:24 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > Try now, > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. > There should be one blank page in the project. > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be > as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard > folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe > has not been updated. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > >> Whoops! >> >> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include >> the latest bits from a test project :-( >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t >>> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> OK latest update. >>> >>> >>> >>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >>> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a >>> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that >>> some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >>> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he >>> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >>> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >>> features. >>> >>> >>> >>> Re. Xerte >>> >>> >>> >>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough >>> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which >>> files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the >>> new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime >>> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >>> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >>> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >>> >>> >>> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >>> >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >>> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder >>> wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's >>> php scripts from the individual xwds. >>> >>> >>> >>> This should provide a working set of models to test. >>> >>> >>> >>> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >>> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these >>> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >>> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >>> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >>> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in >>> which you will know best. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files >>> and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not >>> sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the >>> communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new >>> development on the road. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >>> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >>> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >>> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >>> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >>> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >>> >>> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that >>> we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >>> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >>> project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to >>> contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >>> that build the template.xwd file. >>> >>> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >>> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the >>> model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >>> >>> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >>> individual xwd files. >>> >>> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >>> >>> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >>> and where will they be located? >>> >>> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need >>> to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he >>> can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >>> >>> 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review >>> the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready >>> for testing? >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email >>> do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your >>> computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email >>> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as >>> permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Xerte-dev mailing list >>> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>> in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>> not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>> any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this >>> email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> >>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an >>> attachment >>> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer >>> system: >>> you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 4 16:00:10 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:00:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? [cid:image001.png at 01CD127C.036CF790] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 16:05:13 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:05:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a new project that had access to connector pages. Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney wrote: > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running > version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so > you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just > run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. > > > > If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it > work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its > associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX > menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being > displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp > so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is > probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the > Xerte editor, exe. etc. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Try now, > > > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. > There should be one blank page in the project. > > > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be > as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard > folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe > has not been updated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Whoops! > > > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include > the latest bits from a test project :-( > > > > JK > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t > start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > OK latest update. > > > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in > the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a > project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that > some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in > Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he > should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for > testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language > features. > > > > Re. Xerte > > > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough > to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which > files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the > new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime > then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, > edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's > php scripts from the individual xwds. > > > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in > which you will know best. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made > any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server > and where will they be located? > > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the > situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for > testing? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 4 16:11:57 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:11:57 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA693@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I dunno now. I create a new pages project, then double click the LO icon, the form disappears, no wizard opens. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a new project that had access to connector pages. Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? [cid:image001.png at 01CD127D.A88DA700] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 4 16:19:13 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:19:13 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Should I see connector pages in these menus? [cid:image002.png at 01CD127E.AC879B80] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a new project that had access to connector pages. Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? [cid:image003.png at 01CD127E.AC879B80] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 4 16:21:23 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:21:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6AB@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If I add a page, open a wizard and click play, the project bombs: [cid:image002.png at 01CD127E.FA280B40] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:32 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? [cid:image003.png at 01CD127E.FA280B40] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: image003.png URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 16:22:22 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:22:22 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA693@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA693@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'm sorry about this. That behaviour is typical of an incorrect templatePath - its happening my end as well. If you don't click on the learning object but just select the interface icon you should be able to add pages. I will find out and correct the issue with the template path. JK On 4 April 2012 16:11, Julian Tenney wrote: > I dunno now. I create a new pages project, then double click the LO icon, > the form disappears, no wizard opens. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a > new project that had access to connector pages. > > > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running > version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so > you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just > run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. > > > > If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it > work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its > associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX > menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being > displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp > so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is > probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the > Xerte editor, exe. etc. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Try now, > > > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. > There should be one blank page in the project. > > > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be > as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard > folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe > has not been updated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Whoops! > > > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include > the latest bits from a test project :-( > > > > JK > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t > start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > OK latest update. > > > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in > the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a > project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that > some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in > Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he > should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for > testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language > features. > > > > Re. Xerte > > > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough > to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which > files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the > new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime > then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, > edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's > php scripts from the individual xwds. > > > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in > which you will know best. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made > any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server > and where will they be located? > > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the > situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for > testing? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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JK On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney wrote: > Should I see connector pages in these menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a > new project that had access to connector pages. > > > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running > version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so > you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just > run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. > > > > If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it > work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its > associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX > menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being > displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp > so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is > probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the > Xerte editor, exe. etc. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Try now, > > > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. > There should be one blank page in the project. > > > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be > as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard > folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe > has not been updated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Whoops! > > > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include > the latest bits from a test project :-( > > > > JK > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t > start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > OK latest update. > > > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in > the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a > project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that > some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in > Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he > should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for > testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language > features. > > > > Re. Xerte > > > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough > to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which > files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the > new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime > then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, > edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's > php scripts from the individual xwds. > > > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in > which you will know best. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made > any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server > and where will they be located? > > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the > situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for > testing? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: Capture.PNG Type: image/png Size: 32105 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 4 16:29:06 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:29:06 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you haven't commited something or you're using a different set of files. Please test everything and when you think you've got a working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow until 19th April, and realistically it's more like beginning of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever going to get these releases done. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs It should be looking like in the attached file. JK On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: Should I see connector pages in these menus? [cid:image001.png at 01CD1280.0DDA0C00] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a new project that had access to connector pages. Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? [cid:image002.png at 01CD1280.0DDA0C00] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 16:35:46 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:35:46 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. To create a build I run run.bat? Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? JK On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney wrote: > It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have > no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something or > you?re using a different set of files. > > > > Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, you > can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated > script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but > there?s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise > everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow > until 19th April, and realistically it?s more like beginning of May when > I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this > stuff out for yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases done. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > It should be looking like in the attached file. > > > > JK > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Should I see connector pages in these menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a > new project that had access to connector pages. > > > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running > version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so > you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just > run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. > > > > If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it > work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its > associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX > menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being > displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp > so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is > probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the > Xerte editor, exe. etc. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Try now, > > > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. > There should be one blank page in the project. > > > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be > as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard > folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe > has not been updated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Whoops! > > > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include > the latest bits from a test project :-( > > > > JK > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t > start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > OK latest update. > > > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in > the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a > project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that > some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in > Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he > should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for > testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language > features. > > > > Re. Xerte > > > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough > to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which > files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the > new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime > then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, > edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's > php scripts from the individual xwds. > > > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in > which you will know best. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made > any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server > and where will they be located? > > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the > situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for > testing? > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 67739 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Apr 4 16:36:48 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:36:48 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need to change some paths. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. To create a build I run run.bat? Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? JK On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you haven't commited something or you're using a different set of files. Please test everything and when you think you've got a working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow until 19th April, and realistically it's more like beginning of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever going to get these releases done. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs It should be looking like in the attached file. JK On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: Should I see connector pages in these menus? [cid:image001.png at 01CD1281.2183CF60] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a new project that had access to connector pages. Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? [cid:image002.png at 01CD1281.2183CF60] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 16:44:18 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:44:18 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release available while you are away? I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need to get things tidied up before a break! I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great time. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney wrote: > Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need > to change some paths. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn > runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. > > > > To create a build I run run.bat? > > > > Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? > > > > JK > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have > no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something or > you?re using a different set of files. > > > > Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, you > can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated > script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but > there?s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise > everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow > until 19th April, and realistically it?s more like beginning of May when > I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this > stuff out for yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases done. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > It should be looking like in the attached file. > > > > JK > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Should I see connector pages in these menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a > new project that had access to connector pages. > > > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running > version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so > you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just > run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. > > > > If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it > work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its > associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX > menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being > displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp > so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is > probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the > Xerte editor, exe. etc. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Try now, > > > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. > There should be one blank page in the project. > > > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be > as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard > folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe > has not been updated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Whoops! > > > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include > the latest bits from a test project :-( > > > > JK > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t > start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > OK latest update. > > > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in > the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a > project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that > some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in > Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he > should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for > testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language > features. > > > > Re. Xerte > > > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough > to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which > files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the > new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime > then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, > edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's > php scripts from the individual xwds. > > > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in > which you will know best. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made > any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server > and where will they be located? > > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8. 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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release available while you are away? I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need to get things tidied up before a break! I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great time. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > wrote: Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need to change some paths. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. To create a build I run run.bat? Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? JK On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you haven't commited something or you're using a different set of files. Please test everything and when you think you've got a working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow until 19th April, and realistically it's more like beginning of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever going to get these releases done. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs It should be looking like in the attached file. JK On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: Should I see connector pages in these menus? [cid:image001.png at 01CD1282.53275EF0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a new project that had access to connector pages. Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? [cid:image002.png at 01CD1282.53275EF0] From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 61705 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 17:01:45 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:01:45 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one project to another as I developed it. I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. JK On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney wrote: > If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to > access it, or Fay can. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release > available while you are away? > > > > I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need > to get things tidied up before a break! > > > > I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great > time. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need > to change some paths. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn > runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. > > > > To create a build I run run.bat? > > > > Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? > > > > JK > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have > no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something or > you?re using a different set of files. > > > > Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, you > can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated > script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but > there?s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise > everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow > until 19th April, and realistically it?s more like beginning of May when > I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this > stuff out for yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases done. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > It should be looking like in the attached file. > > > > JK > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Should I see connector pages in these menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a > new project that had access to connector pages. > > > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running > version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so > you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just > run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. > > > > If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it > work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its > associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX > menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being > displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp > so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is > probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the > Xerte editor, exe. etc. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Try now, > > > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. > There should be one blank page in the project. > > > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be > as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard > folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe > has not been updated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Whoops! > > > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include > the latest bits from a test project :-( > > > > JK > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t > start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > OK latest update. > > > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in > the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a > project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that > some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in > Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he > should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for > testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language > features. > > > > Re. Xerte > > > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough > to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which > files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the > new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime > then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, > edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's > php scripts from the individual xwds. > > > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in > which you will know best. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made > any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server > and where will they be located? > > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 4 18:06:25 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:06:25 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA50C@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA5ED@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file associated with .rlo files. Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new Connector pages option in the menu. However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed. Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence would you be able to make available the installation build that he put together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my installation to see what might be missing. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated > pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the > project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always > been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the > .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml > file from one project to another as I developed it. > > I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to >> access it, or Fay can. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release >> available while you are away? >> >> >> >> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need >> to get things tidied up before a break! >> >> >> >> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great >> time. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need >> to change some paths. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn >> runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >> >> >> >> To create a build I run run.bat? >> >> >> >> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >> >> >> >> JK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have >> no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something or >> you?re using a different set of files. >> >> >> >> Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, you >> can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated >> script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but >> there?s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise >> everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow >> until 19th April, and realistically it?s more like beginning of May when >> I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this >> stuff out for yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases done. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> It should be looking like in the attached file. >> >> >> >> JK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a >> new project that had access to connector pages. >> >> >> >> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running >> version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so >> you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just >> run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. >> >> >> >> If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes >> it work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and >> its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to >> "TextX" >> >> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX >> menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >> >> >> >> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being >> displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp >> so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is >> probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the >> Xerte editor, exe. etc. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >> wrote: >> >> Try now, >> >> >> >> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >> >> >> >> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. >> There should be one blank page in the project. >> >> >> >> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be >> as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard >> folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. >> >> >> >> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of >> Xerte.exe has not been updated. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >> wrote: >> >> Whoops! >> >> >> >> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include >> the latest bits from a test project :-( >> >> >> >> JK >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t >> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> OK latest update. >> >> >> >> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a >> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that >> some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he >> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >> features. >> >> >> >> Re. Xerte >> >> >> >> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough >> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which >> files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the >> new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime >> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >> >> >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder >> wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's >> php scripts from the individual xwds. >> >> >> >> This should provide a working set of models to test. >> >> >> >> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these >> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >> >> >> >> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >> >> >> >> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in >> which you will know best. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >> wrote: >> >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure >> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is >> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the >> road. >> >> >> >> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >> >> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >> project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to >> contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >> that build the template.xwd file. >> >> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the >> model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> >> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >> individual xwd files. >> >> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> >> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >> and where will they be located? >> >> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need >> to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he >> can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >> >> 8. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Wed Apr 4 20:31:44 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 21:31:44 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as well. I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part out. Tom Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. > > We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by > the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the > pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. > Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file > associated with .rlo files. > > Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth > changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any > confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? > > I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is > a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is > that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the > new Connector pages option in the menu. > > However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a > PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was > possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that > project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file > could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed. > > Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence > would you be able to make available the installation build that he put > together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with > my installation to see what might be missing. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > > The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the > associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not > being copied into the project folder, when a new project is > created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing > in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most > recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one > project to another as I developed it. > > I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector > menus. > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for > people to access it, or Fay can. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the > release available while you are away? > > I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you > just need to get things tidied up before a break! > > I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to > have a great time. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You > might need to change some paths. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy > of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. > > To create a build I run run.bat? > > Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte > repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you > haven't commited something or you're using a different set of > files. > > Please test everything and when you think you've got a working > build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have > committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it > somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not > doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just > wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow > until 19^th April, and realistically it's more like beginning > of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to > have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're > ever going to get these releases done. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > It should be looking like in the attached file. > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Should I see connector pages in these menus? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able > to create a new project that had access to connector pages. > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get > the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't > work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question > about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe > amongst the repo files. > > If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files > that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an > xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus > value from "Text" to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the > new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not > being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet > updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer > Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not > having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte > editor, exe. etc. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: > > Try now, > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte > project. There should be one blank page in the project. > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why > that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on > what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the > xwd menus property. > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning > of Xerte.exe has not been updated. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: > > Whoops! > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try > to include the latest bits from a test project :-( > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: > it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst > the menus? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > OK latest update. > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt > that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it > is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature > that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing > icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron > were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in > the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build > a test installation for testing the new models, but it will > not include currently the language features. > > Re. Xerte > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will > be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - > I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support > in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If > these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be > in business, if not then they will need adding. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to > install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can > at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to > set it up, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new > model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a > new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an > equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > During developments several changes were made to > XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the > people responsible for these changes have updated them in the > XOT svn. > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these > will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to > the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in > order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think > this is an area in which you will know best. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and > xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re > a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the > developer list so that the communication is shared with all > parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. > > 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you > made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn > pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you > mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was > handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes > to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the > svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of > the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the > XOT build files. > > 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming > that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn > "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the > default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime > folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php > language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that > build the template.xwd file. > > 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that > new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I > need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) > to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which > will contain the individual xwd files. > > 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT > server and where will they be located? > > 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we > need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say > to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to > build his test server? > > 8.Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we > review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get > a Xerte build ready for testing? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the > addressee and may contain confidential information. If you > have received this message in error, please send it back to > me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or > disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Apr 5 09:51:21 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:51:21 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC653@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC653@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F7D5D09.3010403@tor.nl> Yes they are in the editor.fla library Op 5-4-2012 10:18, Julian Tenney schreef: > are the icons for the pages menus in the editor.fla library? We need > some connector icons for the wizard too. I can make them, or propose > some, or you can select something from the famfamfam icon set, and > either mix a few icons up to get what you want, or use something > appropriate. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > [reijnders at tor.nl] > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 20:31 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the > file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file > as well. > > I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host > it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure > that part out. > > Tom > > Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. >> >> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by >> the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the >> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project >> folder. Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and >> xwd file associated with .rlo files. >> >> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth >> changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid >> any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? >> >> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is >> a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this >> is that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display >> the new Connector pages option in the menu. >> >> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a >> PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was >> possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that >> project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file >> could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed. >> >> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence >> would you be able to make available the installation build that he >> put together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it >> with my installation to see what might be missing. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: >> >> >> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the >> associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not >> being copied into the project folder, when a new project is >> created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing >> in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most >> recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one >> project to another as I developed it. >> >> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the >> connector menus. >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere >> for people to access it, or Fay can. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the >> release available while you are away? >> >> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when >> you just need to get things tidied up before a break! >> >> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to >> have a great time. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You >> might need to change some paths. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy >> of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >> >> To create a build I run run.bat? >> >> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte >> repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you >> haven't commited something or you're using a different set of >> files. >> >> Please test everything and when you think you've got a >> working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. >> I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it >> somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not >> doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just >> wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow >> until 19^th April, and realistically it's more like beginning >> of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to >> have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're >> ever going to get these releases done. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> It should be looking like in the attached file. >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able >> to create a new project that had access to connector pages. >> >> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get >> the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't >> work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question >> about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe >> amongst the repo files. >> >> If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files >> that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled >> an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus >> value from "Text" to "TextX" >> >> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the >> new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >> >> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages >> not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet >> updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer >> Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not >> having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte >> editor, exe. etc. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> Try now, >> >> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >> >> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new >> Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. >> >> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why >> that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on >> what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the >> xwd menus property. >> >> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning >> of Xerte.exe has not been updated. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> Whoops! >> >> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you >> try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: >> it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst >> the menus? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> OK latest update. >> >> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt >> that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it >> is possible to create a project and add new pages. One >> feature that will need attention is that some of the pages >> are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in >> the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to >> build a test installation for testing the new models, but it >> will not include currently the language features. >> >> Re. Xerte >> >> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think >> will be enough to create a working install. With one big >> proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide >> the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" >> project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime >> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy >> to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you >> can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else >> tries to set it up, >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >> >> >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the >> new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in >> a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an >> equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual >> xwds. >> >> This should provide a working set of models to test. >> >> During developments several changes were made to >> XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the >> people responsible for these changes have updated them in the >> XOT svn. >> >> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these >> will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to >> the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. >> >> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in >> order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I >> think this is an area in which you will know best. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and >> xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a >> re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the >> developer list so that the communication is shared with all >> parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. >> >> 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you >> made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn >> pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you >> mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was >> handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes >> to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the >> svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of >> the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and >> the XOT build files. >> >> 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming >> that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn >> "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the >> default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the >> runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the >> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >> that build the template.xwd file. >> >> 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that >> new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I >> need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) >> to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> >> 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which >> will contain the individual xwd files. >> >> 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> >> 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT >> server and where will they be located? >> >> 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we >> need to consider in order to be in a position where we can >> say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to >> build his test server? >> >> 8.Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we >> review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can >> get a Xerte build ready for testing? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you >> have received this message in error, please send it back to >> me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or >> disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Apr 5 09:55:11 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:55:11 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC653@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> , <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC653@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F7D5DEF.10004@tor.nl> I'll sort the icon and creation of the beta installer out together with Jonathan. In the mean time, I'll also try to create a beta xot zip. Do you mind if we use the 'keayboard language selector'also for the language selector, or do you think it's better to have a different option for that (non-optional) Tom Op 5-4-2012 10:18, Julian Tenney schreef: > are the icons for the pages menus in the editor.fla library? We need > some connector icons for the wizard too. I can make them, or propose > some, or you can select something from the famfamfam icon set, and > either mix a few icons up to get what you want, or use something > appropriate. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders > [reijnders at tor.nl] > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 20:31 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the > file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file > as well. > > I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host > it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure > that part out. > > Tom > > Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. >> >> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by >> the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the >> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project >> folder. Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and >> xwd file associated with .rlo files. >> >> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth >> changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid >> any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? >> >> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is >> a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this >> is that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display >> the new Connector pages option in the menu. >> >> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a >> PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was >> possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that >> project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file >> could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed. >> >> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence >> would you be able to make available the installation build that he >> put together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it >> with my installation to see what might be missing. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: >> >> >> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the >> associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not >> being copied into the project folder, when a new project is >> created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing >> in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most >> recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one >> project to another as I developed it. >> >> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the >> connector menus. >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere >> for people to access it, or Fay can. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the >> release available while you are away? >> >> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when >> you just need to get things tidied up before a break! >> >> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to >> have a great time. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You >> might need to change some paths. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy >> of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >> >> To create a build I run run.bat? >> >> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte >> repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you >> haven't commited something or you're using a different set of >> files. >> >> Please test everything and when you think you've got a >> working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. >> I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it >> somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not >> doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just >> wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow >> until 19^th April, and realistically it's more like beginning >> of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to >> have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're >> ever going to get these releases done. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> It should be looking like in the attached file. >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able >> to create a new project that had access to connector pages. >> >> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get >> the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't >> work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question >> about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe >> amongst the repo files. >> >> If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files >> that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled >> an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus >> value from "Text" to "TextX" >> >> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the >> new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >> >> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages >> not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet >> updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer >> Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not >> having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte >> editor, exe. etc. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> Try now, >> >> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >> >> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new >> Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. >> >> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why >> that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on >> what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the >> xwd menus property. >> >> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning >> of Xerte.exe has not been updated. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> Whoops! >> >> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you >> try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: >> it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst >> the menus? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> OK latest update. >> >> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt >> that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it >> is possible to create a project and add new pages. One >> feature that will need attention is that some of the pages >> are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in >> the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to >> build a test installation for testing the new models, but it >> will not include currently the language features. >> >> Re. Xerte >> >> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think >> will be enough to create a working install. With one big >> proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide >> the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" >> project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime >> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy >> to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you >> can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else >> tries to set it up, >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On Behalf >> Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >> >> >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test >> installs >> >> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the >> new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in >> a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an >> equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual >> xwds. >> >> This should provide a working set of models to test. >> >> During developments several changes were made to >> XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the >> people responsible for these changes have updated them in the >> XOT svn. >> >> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these >> will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to >> the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. >> >> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in >> order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I >> think this is an area in which you will know best. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and >> xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a >> re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the >> developer list so that the communication is shared with all >> parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. >> >> 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you >> made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn >> pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you >> mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was >> handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes >> to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the >> svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of >> the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and >> the XOT build files. >> >> 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming >> that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn >> "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the >> default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the >> runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the >> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >> that build the template.xwd file. >> >> 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that >> new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I >> need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) >> to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> >> 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which >> will contain the individual xwd files. >> >> 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> >> 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT >> server and where will they be located? >> >> 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we >> need to consider in order to be in a position where we can >> say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to >> build his test server? >> >> 8.Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we >> review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can >> get a Xerte build ready for testing? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee and may contain confidential information. If you >> have received this message in error, please send it back to >> me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or >> disclose the information contained in this message or in any >> attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 5 09:59:38 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 09:59:38 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> Message-ID: OK I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder pagetemplate.rlo pagetemplate.xml pagetemplate.xwd and rename them to pages.rlo etc Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no sense. I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any obvious difference between it and my development setup. I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the > file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as > well. > > I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it > as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part > out. > > Tom > > Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. > > We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by > the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the > pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. > Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file > associated with .rlo files. > > Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing > the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion > with pageTemplates.rlt? > > I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a > challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that > the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new > Connector pages option in the menu. > > However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC > that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible > to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There > was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, > but that might be because Xerte was not installed. > > Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence > would you be able to make available the installation build that he put > together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my > installation to see what might be missing. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > >> >> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the >> associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being >> copied into the project folder, when a new project is created. This >> probably has always been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I >> realise now that the .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have >> copied the xwd and xml file from one project to another as I developed it. >> >> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector >> menus. >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >>> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people >>> to access it, or Fay can. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release >>> available while you are away? >>> >>> >>> >>> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need >>> to get things tidied up before a break! >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great >>> time. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need >>> to change some paths. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn >>> runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >>> >>> >>> >>> To create a build I run run.bat? >>> >>> >>> >>> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I >>> have no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something >>> or you?re using a different set of files. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, >>> you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated >>> script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but >>> there?s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise >>> everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow >>> until 19th April, and realistically it?s more like beginning of May >>> when I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of >>> this stuff out for yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases >>> done. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> It should be looking like in the attached file. >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a >>> new project that had access to connector pages. >>> >>> >>> >>> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running >>> version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so >>> you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just >>> run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. >>> >>> >>> >>> If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes >>> it work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and >>> its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to >>> "TextX" >>> >>> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX >>> menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >>> >>> >>> >>> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being >>> displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp >>> so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is >>> probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the >>> Xerte editor, exe. etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Try now, >>> >>> >>> >>> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >>> >>> >>> >>> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. >>> There should be one blank page in the project. >>> >>> >>> >>> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be >>> as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard >>> folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. >>> >>> >>> >>> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of >>> Xerte.exe has not been updated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Whoops! >>> >>> >>> >>> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to >>> include the latest bits from a test project :-( >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t >>> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> OK latest update. >>> >>> >>> >>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >>> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a >>> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that >>> some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >>> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he >>> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >>> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >>> features. >>> >>> >>> >>> Re. Xerte >>> >>> >>> >>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough >>> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which >>> files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the >>> new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime >>> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >>> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >>> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >>> >>> >>> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >>> >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >>> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder >>> wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's >>> php scripts from the individual xwds. >>> >>> >>> >>> This should provide a working set of models to test. >>> >>> >>> >>> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >>> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these >>> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >>> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >>> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >>> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in >>> which you will know best. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files >>> and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not >>> sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the >>> communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new >>> development on the road. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >>> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >>> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >>> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >>> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >>> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >>> >>> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that >>> we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >>> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >>> project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to >>> contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >>> that build the template.xwd file. >>> >>> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >>> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the >>> model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >>> >>> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >>> individual xwd files. >>> >>> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >>> >>> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >>> and where will they be located? >>> >>> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need >>> to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he >>> can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >>> >>> 8. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Apr 5 10:03:28 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:03:28 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4F7D5FE0.4010401@tor.nl> Ok, just rename the files, and I'll change the editor to copy all 3 files. Op 5-4-2012 10:59, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > OK > > I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. > > What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder > > pagetemplate.rlo > pagetemplate.xml > pagetemplate.xwd > > and rename them to pages.rlo etc > > Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy > all three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. > > At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no > connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be > to remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that > makes no sense. > > I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build > that Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can > find any obvious difference between it and my development setup. > > I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte > installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project > with connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that > needs to be. The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the > project it failed with an error message saying it could not find the > language file. This might be because associations in windows were not > set up as the program was not installed. Just a thought though. There > have been recent discussions regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or > "en ?" (I can't remember what the second bit was. Would these > discussions have resulted in any changes that need to be reflected in > the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? > > I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed > inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing > with inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable > option. > > Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are > the file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the > rlo file as well. > > I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to > host it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to > figure that part out. > > Tom > > Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. >> >> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was >> caused by the failure of the routine that creates a new project >> to copy the pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the >> new project folder. Probably because up till now there had never >> been an xml and xwd file associated with .rlo files. >> >> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth >> changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to >> avoid any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? >> >> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. >> Which is a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason >> I say this is that the problem experienced was that new projects >> did not display the new Connector pages option in the menu. >> >> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder >> to a PC that does not have xerte installed and then run >> Xerte,exe. It was possible to create a new project and to add >> connector pages to that project. There was an issue on previewing >> that the language.xml file could not be found, but that might be >> because Xerte was not installed. >> >> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's >> absence would you be able to make available the installation >> build that he put together? I would like to install it and then >> try to compare it with my installation to see what might be missing. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> >> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because >> the associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files >> were not being copied into the project folder, when a new >> project is created. This probably has always been the case >> and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the >> .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the >> xwd and xml file from one project to another as I developed it. >> >> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the >> connector menus. >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it >> somewhere for people to access it, or Fay can. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte >> test installs >> >> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make >> the release available while you are away? >> >> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical >> when you just need to get things tidied up before a break! >> >> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able >> to have a great time. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. >> You might need to change some paths. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte >> test installs >> >> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my >> copy of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >> >> To create a build I run run.bat? >> >> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my >> local pc? >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte >> repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you >> haven't commited something or you're using a different >> set of files. >> >> Please test everything and when you think you've got a >> working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno >> setup. I have committed an updated script. Tom can >> probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but >> there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first, >> otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of >> the office from tomorrow until 19^th April, and >> realistically it's more like beginning of May when I will >> have any time again. You guys are going to have to work >> some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever going >> to get these releases done. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte >> test installs >> >> It should be looking like in the attached file. >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte >> test installs >> >> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was >> able to create a new project that had access to connector >> pages. >> >> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will >> get the running version of the app once built. If that >> doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own >> question about what will happen in the build: just run >> xerte.exe amongst the repo files. >> >> If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the >> files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files >> from the svn. >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte >> test installs >> >> I have just performed a test in which I copied and >> retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then >> changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" >> >> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project >> the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page >> in it. >> >> So if you are still having issues with the Connector >> pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have >> not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not >> currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is >> probably down to not having the right version of the >> files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> Try now, >> >> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it >> escaped! >> >> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new >> Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. >> >> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure >> why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is >> based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct >> references in the xwd menus property. >> >> It might indicate that something that governs the >> functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> Whoops! >> >> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when >> you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( >> >> JK >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages >> project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector >> pages amongst the menus? >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte >> test installs >> >> OK latest update. >> >> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, >> Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly >> tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project >> and add new pages. One feature that will need attention >> is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think >> these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take >> the contents of the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are >> in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP >> to build a test installation for testing the new models, >> but it will not include currently the language features. >> >> Re. Xerte >> >> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think >> will be enough to create a working install. With one big >> proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to >> provide the support in the Xerte application for the new >> "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to >> the runtime then we should be in business, if not then >> they will need adding. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >> > > wrote: >> >> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's >> easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can >> check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before >> anyone else tries to set it up, >> >> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> >> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> ] *On >> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >> >> >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte >> test installs >> >> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk >> the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd >> files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced >> data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts >> from the individual xwds. >> >> This should provide a working set of models to test. >> >> During developments several changes were made to >> XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if >> the people responsible for these changes have updated >> them in the XOT svn. >> >> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then >> these will need updating in the svn. If there have been >> changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to >> be generated. >> >> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in >> order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I >> think this is an area in which you will know best. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >> > > wrote: >> >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model >> and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but >> there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting >> this to the developer list so that the communication is >> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new >> development on the road. >> >> 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have >> you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte >> svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know >> you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n >> of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not >> noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the >> pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes >> where can I get the new version of the files as they need >> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >> >> 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in >> assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the >> xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will >> contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. >> Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for >> "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to >> contain the php script files that build the template.xwd >> file. >> >> 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding >> that new files are being added directly to the trunk and >> that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. >> is sorted) to the folder >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> >> 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder >> in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en >> which will contain the individual xwd files. >> >> 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> >> 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT >> server and where will they be located? >> >> 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 5 10:07:51 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:07:51 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <4F7D5FE0.4010401@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <4F7D5FE0.4010401@tor.nl> Message-ID: svn now updated - pages.rlo etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2012 10:03, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Ok, just rename the files, and I'll change the editor to copy all 3 files. > > Op 5-4-2012 10:59, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK > > I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. > > What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ > folder > > pagetemplate.rlo > pagetemplate.xml > pagetemplate.xwd > > and rename them to pages.rlo etc > > Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all > three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. > > At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no > connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to > remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no > sense. > > I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that > Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any > obvious difference between it and my development setup. > > I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte > installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with > connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. > The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with > an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be > because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not > installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions > regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the > second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that > need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? > > I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed > inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with > inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. > > Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: > >> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the >> file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as >> well. >> >> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it >> as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part >> out. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. >> >> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by >> the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the >> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. >> Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file >> associated with .rlo files. >> >> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth >> changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any >> confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? >> >> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a >> challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that >> the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new >> Connector pages option in the menu. >> >> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC >> that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible >> to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There >> was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, >> but that might be because Xerte was not installed. >> >> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence >> would you be able to make available the installation build that he put >> together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my >> installation to see what might be missing. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan wrote: >> >>> >>> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the >>> associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being >>> copied into the project folder, when a new project is created. This >>> probably has always been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I >>> realise now that the .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have >>> copied the xwd and xml file from one project to another as I developed it. >>> >>> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector >>> menus. >>> >>> JK >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney wrote: >>> >>>> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people >>>> to access it, or Fay can. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 >>>> >>>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release >>>> available while you are away? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just >>>> need to get things tidied up before a break! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great >>>> time. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might >>>> need to change some paths. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 >>>> >>>> >>>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn >>>> runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To create a build I run run.bat? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> JK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I >>>> have no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something >>>> or you?re using a different set of files. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, >>>> you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated >>>> script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but >>>> there?s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise >>>> everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow >>>> until 19th April, and realistically it?s more like beginning of May >>>> when I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of >>>> this stuff out for yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases >>>> done. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 >>>> >>>> >>>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It should be looking like in the attached file. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> JK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 >>>> >>>> >>>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create >>>> a new project that had access to connector pages. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running >>>> version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so >>>> you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just >>>> run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes >>>> it work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 >>>> >>>> >>>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and >>>> its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to >>>> "TextX" >>>> >>>> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX >>>> menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being >>>> displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp >>>> so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is >>>> probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the >>>> Xerte editor, exe. etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Try now, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. >>>> There should be one blank page in the project. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might >>>> be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard >>>> folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of >>>> Xerte.exe has not been updated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Whoops! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to >>>> include the latest bits from a test project :-( >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> JK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it >>>> doesn?t start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >>>> >>>> >>>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>>> >>>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> OK latest update. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >>>> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a >>>> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that >>>> some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >>>> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the >>>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he >>>> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >>>> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >>>> features. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Re. Xerte >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be >>>> enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know >>>> which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application >>>> for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the >>>> runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >>>> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >>>> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >>>> >>>> >>>> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >>>> >>>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >>>> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder >>>> wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's >>>> php scripts from the individual xwds. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This should provide a working set of models to test. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >>>> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these >>>> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >>>> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >>>> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >>>> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in >>>> which you will know best. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files >>>> and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not >>>> sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the >>>> communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new >>>> development on the road. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >>>> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >>>> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >>>> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >>>> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >>>> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >>>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >>>> >>>> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that >>>> we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >>>> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >>>> project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to >>>> contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >>>> that build the template.xwd file. >>>> >>>> 3. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 5 11:06:10 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:06:10 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people can download and install it. Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into a state that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and tease everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just needs finishing off now! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2012 10:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder pagetemplate.rlo pagetemplate.xml pagetemplate.xwd and rename them to pages.rlo etc Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no sense. I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any obvious difference between it and my development setup. I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as well. I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part out. Tom Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file associated with .rlo files. Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new Connector pages option in the menu. However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed. Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence would you be able to make available the installation build that he put together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my installation to see what might be missing. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one project to another as I developed it. I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. JK On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to access it, or Fay can. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release available while you are away? I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need to get things tidied up before a break! I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great time. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > wrote: Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need to change some paths. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. To create a build I run run.bat? Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? JK On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you haven't commited something or you're using a different set of files. Please test everything and when you think you've got a working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow until 19th April, and realistically it's more like beginning of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever going to get these releases done. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs It should be looking like in the attached file. JK On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: Should I see connector pages in these menus? Error! Filename not specified. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a new project that had access to connector pages. Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? Error! Filename not specified. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 5 11:28:16 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:28:16 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn runtime folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the paths to match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then installed it on a pc that did not have xerte installed. I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. However the preview failed with the message "error language data failed to load". (It is necessary on my version at present to manually copy across the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new project, but when this is done the languages error persists) So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the connector pages not showing yesterday. However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping files out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney wrote: > If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people > can download and install it. > > > > Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into a state > that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new > format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and tease > everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just needs > finishing off now! > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2012 10:00 > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > OK > > > > I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. > > > > What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder > > > > pagetemplate.rlo > > pagetemplate.xml > > pagetemplate.xwd > > > > and rename them to pages.rlo etc > > > > Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all > three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. > > > > At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no > connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to > remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no > sense. > > > > I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that > Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any > obvious difference between it and my development setup. > > > > I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte > installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with > connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. > The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with > an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be > because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not > installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions > regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the > second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that > need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? > > > > I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed inno > and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno and > I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. > > > > Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: > > Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the file > that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as well. > > I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it > as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part > out. > > Tom > > Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. > > > > We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by the > failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the > pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. > Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file > associated with .rlo files. > > > > Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing > the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion > with pageTemplates.rlt? > > > > I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a > challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that > the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new > Connector pages option in the menu. > > > > However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC > that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible > to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There > was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, > but that might be because Xerte was not installed. > > > > Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence would > you be able to make available the installation build that he put together? > I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my installation > to see what might be missing. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > > > The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated > pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the > project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always > been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the > .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml > file from one project to another as I developed it. > > > > I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. > > > > JK > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to > access it, or Fay can. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release > available while you are away? > > > > I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need > to get things tidied up before a break! > > > > I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great > time. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need > to change some paths. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn > runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. > > > > To create a build I run run.bat? > > > > Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? > > > > JK > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have > no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something or > you?re using a different set of files. > > > > Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, you > can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated > script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but > there?s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise > everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow > until 19th April, and realistically it?s more like beginning of May when > I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this > stuff out for yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases done. > > > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > It should be looking like in the attached file. > > > > JK > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Should I see connector pages in these menus? > > > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a > new project that had access to connector pages. > > > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running > version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so > you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just > run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. > > > > If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it > work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its > associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX > menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being > displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp > so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is > probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the > Xerte editor, exe. etc. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Try now, > > > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. > There should be one blank page in the project. > > > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be > as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard > folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe > has not been updated. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Whoops! > > > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include > the latest bits from a test project :-( > > > > JK > > > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t > start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > OK latest update. > > > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in > the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a > project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that > some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in > Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he > should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for > testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language > features. > > > > Re. Xerte > > > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough > to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which > files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the > new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime > then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > > > > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, > edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > > > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's > php scripts from the individual xwds. > > > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf > and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes > have updated them in the XOT svn. > > > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in > which you will know best. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Johnathan > > > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and > thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure > about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is > shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the > road. > > > > 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made > any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that > "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any > changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If > there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need > adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. > > 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This > "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" > project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to > contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files > that build the template.xwd file. > > 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new > files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the > model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the > individual xwd files. > > 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server > and where will they be located? > > 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can > download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 5 12:01:04 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:01:04 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA675@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6A5@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: OK The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is defining file names now in a different format e.g. the old version had file="english.xml" whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the language file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to en-gb.xml I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at the moment. Tom if there is anything you can think of let me know. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn runtime > folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the paths to > match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then installed it on > a pc that did not have xerte installed. > > I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. > > However the preview failed with the message "error language data failed to > load". (It is necessary on my version at present to manually copy across > the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new project, but when this is > done the languages error persists) > > So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the connector > pages not showing yesterday. > > However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. > > I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping files > out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney wrote: > >> If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people >> can download and install it. >> >> >> >> Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into a state >> that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new >> format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and tease >> everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just needs >> finishing off now! >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 05 April 2012 10:00 >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> OK >> >> >> >> I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. >> >> >> >> What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder >> >> >> >> pagetemplate.rlo >> >> pagetemplate.xml >> >> pagetemplate.xwd >> >> >> >> and rename them to pages.rlo etc >> >> >> >> Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all >> three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. >> >> >> >> At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no >> connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to >> remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no >> sense. >> >> >> >> I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that >> Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any >> obvious difference between it and my development setup. >> >> >> >> I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte >> installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with >> connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. >> The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with >> an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be >> because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not >> installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions >> regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the >> second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that >> need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? >> >> >> >> I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed inno >> and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno and >> I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. >> >> >> >> Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> >> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the >> file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as >> well. >> >> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it >> as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part >> out. >> >> Tom >> >> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. >> >> >> >> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by the >> failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the >> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. >> Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file >> associated with .rlo files. >> >> >> >> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing >> the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion >> with pageTemplates.rlt? >> >> >> >> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a >> challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that >> the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new >> Connector pages option in the menu. >> >> >> >> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC >> that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible >> to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There >> was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, >> but that might be because Xerte was not installed. >> >> >> >> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence would >> you be able to make available the installation build that he put together? >> I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my installation >> to see what might be missing. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan >> wrote: >> >> >> >> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated >> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the >> project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always >> been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the >> .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml >> file from one project to another as I developed it. >> >> >> >> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. >> >> >> >> JK >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to >> access it, or Fay can. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release >> available while you are away? >> >> >> >> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need >> to get things tidied up before a break! >> >> >> >> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great >> time. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need >> to change some paths. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn >> runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >> >> >> >> To create a build I run run.bat? >> >> >> >> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >> >> >> >> JK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have >> no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something or >> you?re using a different set of files. >> >> >> >> Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, you >> can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated >> script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but >> there?s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise >> everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow >> until 19th April, and realistically it?s more like beginning of May when >> I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this >> stuff out for yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases done. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> It should be looking like in the attached file. >> >> >> >> JK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >> >> >> >> *Error! Filename not specified.* >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a >> new project that had access to connector pages. >> >> >> >> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running >> version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so >> you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just >> run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. >> >> >> >> If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes >> it work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and >> its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to >> "TextX" >> >> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX >> menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >> >> >> >> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being >> displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp >> so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is >> probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the >> Xerte editor, exe. etc. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >> wrote: >> >> Try now, >> >> >> >> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >> >> >> >> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. >> There should be one blank page in the project. >> >> >> >> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be >> as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard >> folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. >> >> >> >> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of >> Xerte.exe has not been updated. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >> wrote: >> >> Whoops! >> >> >> >> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include >> the latest bits from a test project :-( >> >> >> >> JK >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t >> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >> >> >> >> *Error! Filename not specified.* >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >> >> >> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> OK latest update. >> >> >> >> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a >> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that >> some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he >> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >> features. >> >> >> >> Re. Xerte >> >> >> >> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough >> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which >> files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the >> new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime >> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >> >> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >> >> >> >> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >> >> >> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >> >> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >> >> >> >> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder >> wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's >> php scripts from the individual xwds. >> >> >> >> This should provide a working set of models to test. >> >> >> >> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these >> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >> >> >> >> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >> >> >> >> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in >> which you will know best. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> Johnathan >> >> >> >> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >> wrote: >> >> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure >> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is >> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the >> road. >> >> >> >> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >> >> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >> project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to >> contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >> that build the template.xwd file. >> >> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the >> model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >> >> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >> individual xwd files. >> >> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >> >> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >> and where will they be located? >> >> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need >> to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he >> can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >> >> 8. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Apr 5 12:51:19 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:51:19 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> Yes, there is one thing that I think still needs to be done, and that is make it porssible to select the language the LO is supposed to be presented in. This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use the en-gb, nl-nl string as data. Than in the setup script, the correct language should be loaded: rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/' + + '.xml'); Could you do that? Default should be rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/en-gb.xml'); Thanks! Tom Op 5-4-2012 13:01, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > OK > > The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is > defining file names now in a different format e.g. the old version had > file="english.xml" whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". > > The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the > language file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to > en-gb.xml > > I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. > > I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at > the moment. > > Tom if there is anything you can think of let me know. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn > runtime folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified > the paths to match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I > then installed it on a pc that did not have xerte installed. > > I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. > > However the preview failed with the message "error language data > failed to load". (It is necessary on my version at present to > manually copy across the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the > new project, but when this is done the languages error persists) > > So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the > connector pages not showing yesterday. > > However something has been changed somewhere with respect to > languages. > > I don't get this on my development version so I will start > swapping files out to try to find the file that is causing the > problem. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org > where people can download and install it. > > Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk > into a state that has everything in it for testing: all the > models moved to the new format for them, etc. Then we can push > on with testing / comments and tease everything out. I sense > this is probably closer than I think, it just needs finishing > off now! > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2012 10:00 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > OK > > I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn > runtime folder. > > What I would like is to take the three files in the > runtime/pages/ folder > > pagetemplate.rlo > > pagetemplate.xml > > pagetemplate.xwd > > and rename them to pages.rlo etc > > Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs > to copy all three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new > project folder. > > At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting > no connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate > it would be to remove the connector page xwds from the > wizards/en folder but that makes no sense. > > I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the > build that Julian created so that I can try it out myself and > see if I can find any obvious difference between it and my > development setup. > > I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have > Xerte installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to > create a project with connector pages, so everything appears > to be in the svn that needs to be. The only issue I hit was > when I tried to preview the project it failed with an error > message saying it could not find the language file. This might > be because associations in windows were not set up as the > program was not installed. Just a thought though. There have > been recent discussions regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" > or "en ?" (I can't remember what the second bit was. Would > these discussions have resulted in any changes that need to be > reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? > > I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just > installed inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what > you are doing with inno and I am totally new to it so this has > to be a more reliable option. > > Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now > email Fay. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where > are the file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name > of the rlo file as well. > > I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able > to host it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be > able to figure that part out. > > Tom > > Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. > > We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was > caused by the failure of the routine that creates a new > project to copy the pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd > files to the new project folder. Probably because up till now > there had never been an xml and xwd file associated with .rlo > files. > > Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it > worth changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so > as to avoid any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? > > I think there must be something wrong with the build script. > Which is a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The > reason I say this is that the problem experienced was that new > projects did not display the new Connector pages option in the > menu. > > However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime > folder to a PC that does not have xerte installed and then run > Xerte,exe. It was possible to create a new project and to add > connector pages to that project. There was an issue on > previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, but > that might be because Xerte was not installed. > > Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's > absence would you be able to make available the installation > build that he put together? I would like to install it and > then try to compare it with my installation to see what might > be missing. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: > > The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the > associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were > not being copied into the project folder, when a new project > is created. This probably has always been the case and needs > fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is > the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml > file from one project to another as I developed it. > > I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the > connector menus. > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for > people to access it, or Fay can. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the > release available while you are away? > > I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you > just need to get things tidied up before a break! > > I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to > have a great time. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You > might need to change some paths. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy > of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. > > To create a build I run run.bat? > > Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte > repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you > haven't commited something or you're using a different set of > files. > > Please test everything and when you think you've got a working > build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have > committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it > somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not > doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just > wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow > until 19^th April, and realistically it's more like beginning > of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to > have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're > ever going to get these releases done. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > It should be looking like in the attached file. > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Should I see connector pages in these menus? > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able > to create a new project that had access to connector pages. > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get > the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't > work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question > about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe > amongst the repo files. > > If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files > that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an > xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus > value from "Text" to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the > new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not > being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet > updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer > Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not > having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte > editor, exe. etc. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: > > Try now, > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte > project. There should be one blank page in the project. > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why > that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on > what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the > xwd menus property. > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning > of Xerte.exe has not been updated. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: > > Whoops! > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try > to include the latest bits from a test project :-( > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: > it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst > the menus? > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > OK latest update. > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt > that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it > is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature > that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing > icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron > were to take the contents of the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in > the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build > a test installation for testing the new models, but it will > not include currently the language features. > > Re. Xerte > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will > be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - > I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support > in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If > these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be > in business, if not then they will need adding. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to > install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can > at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to > set it up, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf > Of *Kemp Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test > installs > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new > model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a > new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an > equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > During developments several changes were made to > XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the > people responsible for these changes have updated them in the > XOT svn. > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these > will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to > the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in > order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think > this is an area in which you will know best. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > > wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and > xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re > a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the > developer list so that the communication is shared with all > parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. > > 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you > made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn > pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you > mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was > handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes > to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the > svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of > the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the > XOT build files. > > 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming > that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn > "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the > default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime > folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php > language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that > build the template.xwd file. > > 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that > new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I > need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) > to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which > will contain the individual xwd files. > > 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT > server and where will they be located? > > 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 5 12:55:17 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:55:17 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> Message-ID: Tom, you and Johnathan seem busy with this - want me to do pictures? On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Yes, there is one thing that I think still needs to be done, and that is > make it porssible to select the language the LO is supposed to be presented > in. > > This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use the > en-gb, nl-nl string as data. > > Than in the setup script, the correct language should be loaded: > > > rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/' + + '.xml'); > > Could you do that? Default should be > rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/en-gb.xml'); > > Thanks! > > Tom > > > Op 5-4-2012 13:01, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK > > The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is defining file > names now in a different format e.g. the old version had file="english.xml" > whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". > > The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the language > file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to en-gb.xml > > I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. > > I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at the > moment. > > Tom if there is anything ?you can think of let me know. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan wrote: >> >> I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn runtime >> folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the paths to >> match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then installed it on a >> pc that did not have xerte installed. >> >> I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. >> >> However the preview failed with the message "error language data failed to >> load".? (It is necessary on my version at present to manually copy across >> the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new project, but when this is >> done the languages error persists) >> >> So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the connector >> pages not showing yesterday. >> >> However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. >> >> I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping files >> out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney >> wrote: >>> >>> If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people >>> can download and install it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into? a state >>> that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new >>> format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and tease >>> everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just needs >>> finishing off now! >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 05 April 2012 10:00 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> OK >>> >>> >>> >>> I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. >>> >>> >>> >>> What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ >>> folder >>> >>> >>> >>> pagetemplate.rlo >>> >>> pagetemplate.xml >>> >>> pagetemplate.xwd >>> >>> >>> >>> and rename them to pages.rlo etc >>> >>> >>> >>> Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all >>> three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. >>> >>> >>> >>> At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no >>> connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to >>> remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no >>> sense. >>> >>> >>> >>> I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that >>> Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any >>> obvious difference between it and my development setup. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte >>> installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with >>> connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. >>> The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with >>> an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be >>> because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not >>> installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions >>> regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the >>> second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that >>> need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? >>> >>> >>> >>> I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed inno >>> and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno and >>> I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. >>> >>> >>> >>> Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> >>> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the >>> file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as >>> well. >>> >>> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it >>> as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part >>> out. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> >>> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. >>> >>> >>> >>> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by the >>> failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the >>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. >>> Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file >>> associated with .rlo files. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing >>> the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion with >>> pageTemplates.rlt? >>> >>> >>> >>> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a >>> challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that >>> the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new >>> Connector pages option in the menu. >>> >>> >>> >>> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC >>> that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible >>> to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There >>> was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, >>> but that might be because Xerte was not installed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence would >>> you be able to make available the installation build that he put together? I >>> would like to install it and then try to compare it with my installation to >>> see what might be missing. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated >>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the >>> project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always been >>> the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo >>> work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file >>> from one project to another as I developed it. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to >>> access it, or Fay can. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:44 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release >>> available while you are away? >>> >>> >>> >>> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need >>> to get things tidied up before a break! >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great >>> time. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need >>> to change some paths. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:36 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn >>> runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >>> >>> >>> >>> To create a build I run run.bat? >>> >>> >>> >>> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have >>> no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something or >>> you?re using a different set of files. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, you >>> can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated >>> script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but there?s >>> no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just >>> wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow until 19th April, >>> and realistically it?s more like beginning of May when I will have any time >>> again. You guys are going to have to work some of this stuff out for >>> yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases done. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:26 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> It should be looking like in the attached file. >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >>> >>> >>> >>> Error! Filename not specified. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a >>> new project that had access to connector pages. >>> >>> >>> >>> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running >>> version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so you >>> can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run >>> xerte.exe amongst the repo files. >>> >>> >>> >>> If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes >>> it work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and >>> its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to >>> "TextX" >>> >>> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages ?project the new TextX >>> menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >>> >>> >>> >>> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being >>> displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp >>> so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is >>> probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the >>> Xerte editor, exe. etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Try now, >>> >>> >>> >>> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >>> >>> >>> >>> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. >>> There should be one blank page in the project. >>> >>> >>> >>> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be >>> as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, >>> and correct references in the xwd menus property. >>> >>> >>> >>> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of >>> Xerte.exe has not been updated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Whoops! >>> >>> >>> >>> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include >>> the latest bits from a test project :-( >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t >>> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >>> >>> >>> >>> Error! Filename not specified. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 >>> >>> >>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>> >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> OK latest update. >>> >>> >>> >>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >>> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a >>> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some >>> of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. >>> So if Ron were to take the contents of the >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he >>> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >>> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >>> features. >>> >>> >>> >>> Re. Xerte >>> >>> >>> >>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough >>> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files >>> Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new >>> "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then >>> we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >>> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >>> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >>> >>> >>> >>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>> Johnathan >>> Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 >>> >>> >>> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>> >>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >>> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ >>> ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts >>> from the individual xwds. >>> >>> >>> >>> This should provide a working set of models to test. >>> >>> >>> >>> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >>> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these >>> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >>> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >>> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >>> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in >>> which you will know best. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >>> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure >>> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is >>> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the >>> road. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1.????? With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >>> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >>> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >>> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >>> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >>> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >>> >>> 2.????? With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >>> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >>> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. >>> Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the >>> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the >>> template.xwd file. >>> >>> 3.????? With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >>> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model >>> files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >>> >>> 4.????? In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >>> individual xwd files. >>> >>> 5.????? I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >>> ?modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >>> >>> 6.????? Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >>> and where will they be located? >>> >>> 7.????? My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to >>> consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can >>> download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >>> >>> 8.????? 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Apr 5 13:02:48 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:02:48 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> Message-ID: <4F7D89E8.7050209@tor.nl> buttons you mean? Or icons? What needs to be done t xot is to be able to select a language somewhere.... (for xot) Now, at least we are using the same language string across the board! (en-gb) Op 5-4-2012 13:55, Pat Lockley schreef: > Tom, you and Johnathan seem busy with this - want me to do pictures? > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: >> Yes, there is one thing that I think still needs to be done, and that is >> make it porssible to select the language the LO is supposed to be presented >> in. >> >> This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use the >> en-gb, nl-nl string as data. >> >> Than in the setup script, the correct language should be loaded: >> >> >> rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/' + + '.xml'); >> >> Could you do that? Default should be >> rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/en-gb.xml'); >> >> Thanks! >> >> Tom >> >> >> Op 5-4-2012 13:01, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >> >> OK >> >> The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is defining file >> names now in a different format e.g. the old version had file="english.xml" >> whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". >> >> The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the language >> file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to en-gb.xml >> >> I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. >> >> I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at the >> moment. >> >> Tom if there is anything you can think of let me know. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan wrote: >>> I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn runtime >>> folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the paths to >>> match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then installed it on a >>> pc that did not have xerte installed. >>> >>> I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. >>> >>> However the preview failed with the message "error language data failed to >>> load". (It is necessary on my version at present to manually copy across >>> the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new project, but when this is >>> done the languages error persists) >>> >>> So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the connector >>> pages not showing yesterday. >>> >>> However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. >>> >>> I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping files >>> out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>>> If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people >>>> can download and install it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into a state >>>> that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new >>>> format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and tease >>>> everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just needs >>>> finishing off now! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 05 April 2012 10:00 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> OK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ >>>> folder >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> pagetemplate.rlo >>>> >>>> pagetemplate.xml >>>> >>>> pagetemplate.xwd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> and rename them to pages.rlo etc >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all >>>> three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no >>>> connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to >>>> remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no >>>> sense. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that >>>> Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any >>>> obvious difference between it and my development setup. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte >>>> installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with >>>> connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. >>>> The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with >>>> an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be >>>> because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not >>>> installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions >>>> regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the >>>> second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that >>>> need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed inno >>>> and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno and >>>> I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the >>>> file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as >>>> well. >>>> >>>> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it >>>> as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part >>>> out. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>> >>>> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by the >>>> failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the >>>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. >>>> Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file >>>> associated with .rlo files. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing >>>> the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion with >>>> pageTemplates.rlt? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a >>>> challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that >>>> the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new >>>> Connector pages option in the menu. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC >>>> that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible >>>> to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There >>>> was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, >>>> but that might be because Xerte was not installed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence would >>>> you be able to make available the installation build that he put together? I >>>> would like to install it and then try to compare it with my installation to >>>> see what might be missing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated >>>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the >>>> project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always been >>>> the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo >>>> work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file >>>> from one project to another as I developed it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> JK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to >>>> access it, or Fay can. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:44 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release >>>> available while you are away? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need >>>> to get things tidied up before a break! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great >>>> time. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need >>>> to change some paths. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:36 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn >>>> runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To create a build I run run.bat? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> JK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have >>>> no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something or >>>> you?re using a different set of files. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, you >>>> can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated >>>> script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but there?s >>>> no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just >>>> wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow until 19th April, >>>> and realistically it?s more like beginning of May when I will have any time >>>> again. You guys are going to have to work some of this stuff out for >>>> yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases done. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:26 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It should be looking like in the attached file. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> JK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Error! Filename not specified. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a >>>> new project that had access to connector pages. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running >>>> version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so you >>>> can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run >>>> xerte.exe amongst the repo files. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes >>>> it work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and >>>> its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to >>>> "TextX" >>>> >>>> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX >>>> menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being >>>> displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp >>>> so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is >>>> probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the >>>> Xerte editor, exe. etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Try now, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. >>>> There should be one blank page in the project. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be >>>> as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, >>>> and correct references in the xwd menus property. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of >>>> Xerte.exe has not been updated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Whoops! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include >>>> the latest bits from a test project :-( >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> JK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t >>>> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Error! Filename not specified. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>> >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> OK latest update. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >>>> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a >>>> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some >>>> of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. >>>> So if Ron were to take the contents of the >>>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he >>>> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >>>> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >>>> features. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Re. Xerte >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough >>>> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files >>>> Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new >>>> "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then >>>> we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >>>> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >>>> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>> Johnathan >>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 >>>> >>>> >>>> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>>> >>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >>>> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ >>>> ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts >>>> from the individual xwds. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This should provide a working set of models to test. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >>>> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these >>>> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >>>> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >>>> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >>>> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in >>>> which you will know best. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and >>>> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure >>>> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is >>>> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the >>>> road. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >>>> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >>>> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >>>> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >>>> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >>>> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >>>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >>>> >>>> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we >>>> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >>>> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. >>>> Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the >>>> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the >>>> template.xwd file. >>>> >>>> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >>>> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model >>>> files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >>>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >>>> >>>> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >>>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >>>> individual xwd files. >>>> >>>> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >>>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >>>> >>>> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >>>> and where will they be located? >>>> >>>> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to >>>> consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can >>>> download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >>>> >>>> 8. 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Email communications with the >> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 5 13:09:12 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:09:12 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA953@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> I think we should use the existing option, and default to english? Might need to just reconfigure the control / data and how it deals with charPad.swf. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders Sent: 05 April 2012 12:51 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs Yes, there is one thing that I think still needs to be done, and that is make it porssible to select the language the LO is supposed to be presented in. This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use the en-gb, nl-nl string as data. Than in the setup script, the correct language should be loaded: rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/' + + '.xml'); Could you do that? Default should be rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/en-gb.xml'); Thanks! Tom Op 5-4-2012 13:01, Kemp Johnathan schreef: OK The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is defining file names now in a different format e.g. the old version had file="english.xml" whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the language file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to en-gb.xml I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at the moment. Tom if there is anything you can think of let me know. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn runtime folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the paths to match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then installed it on a pc that did not have xerte installed. I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. However the preview failed with the message "error language data failed to load". (It is necessary on my version at present to manually copy across the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new project, but when this is done the languages error persists) So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the connector pages not showing yesterday. However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping files out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney > wrote: If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people can download and install it. Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into a state that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and tease everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just needs finishing off now! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2012 10:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder pagetemplate.rlo pagetemplate.xml pagetemplate.xwd and rename them to pages.rlo etc Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no sense. I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any obvious difference between it and my development setup. I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as well. I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part out. Tom Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file associated with .rlo files. Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new Connector pages option in the menu. However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed. Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence would you be able to make available the installation build that he put together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my installation to see what might be missing. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one project to another as I developed it. I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. JK On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to access it, or Fay can. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release available while you are away? I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need to get things tidied up before a break! I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great time. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > wrote: Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need to change some paths. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. To create a build I run run.bat? Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? JK On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you haven't commited something or you're using a different set of files. Please test everything and when you think you've got a working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow until 19th April, and realistically it's more like beginning of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever going to get these releases done. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs It should be looking like in the attached file. JK On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: Should I see connector pages in these menus? Error! Filename not specified. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a new project that had access to connector pages. Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? Error! Filename not specified. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Thu Apr 5 13:13:32 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:13:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> Message-ID: This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use the en-gb, nl-nl string as data. Do you mean putting the language code option in pages.xwd? There is a language option in there waiting to be used. However I can't see how that is going to work. When you create the project will every language set of xwds be copied into the new project folder i.e. wizards/en, wizards/nl etc. (Do these need to become en-gb, etc.) Would you want to create some pages of a project using an xwd in one language and then create other pages in another language? Would not the selection of a language be made at the time of creating the new project. If this is what you are thinking then no problem I can update the pages.xwd file.. Do you have a list of codes you are using? I am assuming we are on desktop Xerte with this discussion? Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2012 12:51, Tom Reijnders wrote: > Yes, there is one thing that I think still needs to be done, and that is > make it porssible to select the language the LO is supposed to be presented > in. > > This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use the > en-gb, nl-nl string as data. > > Than in the setup script, the correct language should be loaded: > > > rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/' + + '.xml'); > > Could you do that? Default should be > rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/en-gb.xml'); > > Thanks! > > Tom > > > Op 5-4-2012 13:01, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK > > The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is defining > file names now in a different format e.g. the old version had > file="english.xml" whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". > > The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the > language file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to en-gb.xml > > I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. > > I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at > the moment. > > Tom if there is anything you can think of let me know. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan wrote: > >> I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn runtime >> folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the paths to >> match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then installed it on >> a pc that did not have xerte installed. >> >> I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. >> >> However the preview failed with the message "error language data failed >> to load". (It is necessary on my version at present to manually copy >> across the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new project, but when >> this is done the languages error persists) >> >> So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the connector >> pages not showing yesterday. >> >> However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. >> >> I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping >> files out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Johnathan >> >> On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney wrote: >> >>> If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people >>> can download and install it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into a state >>> that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new >>> format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and tease >>> everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just needs >>> finishing off now! >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 05 April 2012 10:00 >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> OK >>> >>> >>> >>> I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. >>> >>> >>> >>> What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ >>> folder >>> >>> >>> >>> pagetemplate.rlo >>> >>> pagetemplate.xml >>> >>> pagetemplate.xwd >>> >>> >>> >>> and rename them to pages.rlo etc >>> >>> >>> >>> Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all >>> three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. >>> >>> >>> >>> At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no >>> connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to >>> remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no >>> sense. >>> >>> >>> >>> I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that >>> Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any >>> obvious difference between it and my development setup. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte >>> installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with >>> connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. >>> The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with >>> an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be >>> because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not >>> installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions >>> regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the >>> second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that >>> need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? >>> >>> >>> >>> I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed >>> inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with >>> inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. >>> >>> >>> >>> Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders wrote: >>> >>> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the >>> file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as >>> well. >>> >>> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it >>> as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part >>> out. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> >>> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. >>> >>> >>> >>> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by >>> the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the >>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. >>> Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file >>> associated with .rlo files. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing >>> the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion >>> with pageTemplates.rlt? >>> >>> >>> >>> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a >>> challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that >>> the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new >>> Connector pages option in the menu. >>> >>> >>> >>> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC >>> that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible >>> to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There >>> was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, >>> but that might be because Xerte was not installed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence >>> would you be able to make available the installation build that he put >>> together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my >>> installation to see what might be missing. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the >>> associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being >>> copied into the project folder, when a new project is created. This >>> probably has always been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I >>> realise now that the .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have >>> copied the xwd and xml file from one project to another as I developed it. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to >>> access it, or Fay can. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release >>> available while you are away? >>> >>> >>> >>> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need >>> to get things tidied up before a break! >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great >>> time. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need >>> to change some paths. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn >>> runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >>> >>> >>> >>> To create a build I run run.bat? >>> >>> >>> >>> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I >>> have no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something >>> or you?re using a different set of files. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, >>> you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated >>> script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but >>> there?s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise >>> everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow >>> until 19th April, and realistically it?s more like beginning of May >>> when I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of >>> this stuff out for yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases >>> done. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> It should be looking like in the attached file. >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Error! Filename not specified.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a >>> new project that had access to connector pages. >>> >>> >>> >>> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running >>> version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, so >>> you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just >>> run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. >>> >>> >>> >>> If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes >>> it work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and >>> its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to >>> "TextX" >>> >>> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX >>> menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >>> >>> >>> >>> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being >>> displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp >>> so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is >>> probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the >>> Xerte editor, exe. etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Try now, >>> >>> >>> >>> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >>> >>> >>> >>> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. >>> There should be one blank page in the project. >>> >>> >>> >>> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be >>> as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard >>> folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. >>> >>> >>> >>> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of >>> Xerte.exe has not been updated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Whoops! >>> >>> >>> >>> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to >>> include the latest bits from a test project :-( >>> >>> >>> >>> JK >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn?t >>> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Error! Filename not specified.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 >>> >>> >>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers >>> >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> OK latest update. >>> >>> >>> >>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >>> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a >>> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that >>> some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >>> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he >>> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >>> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >>> features. >>> >>> >>> >>> Re. Xerte >>> >>> >>> >>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough >>> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which >>> files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the >>> new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime >>> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >>> wrote: >>> >>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >>> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >>> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: >>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan >>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 >>> >>> >>> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List >>> >>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>> >>> >>> >>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >>> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder >>> wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's >>> php scripts from the individual xwds. >>> >>> >>> >>> This should provide a working set of models to test. >>> >>> >>> >>> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >>> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these >>> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >>> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >>> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >>> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in >>> which you will know best. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files >>> and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not >>> sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the >>> communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new >>> development on the road. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >>> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and >>> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that >>> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any >>> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If >>> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need >>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >>> >>> 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that >>> we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This >>> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >>> project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to >>> contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files >>> that build the template.xwd file. >>> >>> 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >>> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the >>> model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >>> >>> 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the >>> individual xwd files. >>> >>> 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >>> >>> 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >>> and where will they be located? >>> >>> 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need >>> to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he >>> can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >>> >>> 8. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Apr 5 13:14:19 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:14:19 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA953@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA953@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F7D8C9B.9070102@tor.nl> Ok, understood.... Jonathan, never mind then, I'll take care of it. Op 5-4-2012 14:09, Julian Tenney schreef: > > I think we should use the existing option, and default to english? > > Might need to just reconfigure the control / data and how it deals > with charPad.swf. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom > Reijnders > *Sent:* 05 April 2012 12:51 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > Yes, there is one thing that I think still needs to be done, and that > is make it porssible to select the language the LO is supposed to be > presented in. > > This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use > the en-gb, nl-nl string as data. > > Than in the setup script, the correct language should be loaded: > > > rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/' + + '.xml'); > > Could you do that? Default should be > rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/en-gb.xml'); > > Thanks! > > Tom > > > Op 5-4-2012 13:01, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK > > The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is > defining file names now in a different format e.g. the old version had > file="english.xml" whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". > > The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the > language file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to > en-gb.xml > > I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. > > I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at > the moment. > > Tom if there is anything you can think of let me know. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn > runtime folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the > paths to match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then > installed it on a pc that did not have xerte installed. > > I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. > > However the preview failed with the message "error language data > failed to load". (It is necessary on my version at present to > manually copy across the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new > project, but when this is done the languages error persists) > > So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the > connector pages not showing yesterday. > > However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. > > I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping > files out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org > where people can download and install it. > > Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into a > state that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to > the new format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / > comments and tease everything out. I sense this is probably closer > than I think, it just needs finishing off now! > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2012 10:00 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > OK > > I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. > > What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder > > pagetemplate.rlo > > pagetemplate.xml > > pagetemplate.xwd > > and rename them to pages.rlo etc > > Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy > all three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. > > At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no > connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be > to remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that > makes no sense. > > I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build > that Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can > find any obvious difference between it and my development setup. > > I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte > installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project > with connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that > needs to be. The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the > project it failed with an error message saying it could not find the > language file. This might be because associations in windows were not > set up as the program was not installed. Just a thought though. There > have been recent discussions regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or > "en ?" (I can't remember what the second bit was. Would these > discussions have resulted in any changes that need to be reflected in > the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? > > I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed > inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing > with inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable > option. > > Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the > file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file > as well. > > I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host > it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure > that part out. > > Tom > > Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. > > We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by > the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the > pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. > Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file > associated with .rlo files. > > Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth > changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any > confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? > > I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is > a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is > that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the > new Connector pages option in the menu. > > However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a > PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was > possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that > project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file > could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed. > > Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence > would you be able to make available the installation build that he put > together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with > my installation to see what might be missing. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the > associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being > copied into the project folder, when a new project is created. This > probably has always been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. > I realise now that the .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must > have copied the xwd and xml file from one project to another as I > developed it. > > I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people > to access it, or Fay can. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release > available while you are away? > > I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just > need to get things tidied up before a break! > > I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a > great time. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might > need to change some paths. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn > runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. > > To create a build I run run.bat? > > Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I > have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you haven't commited > something or you're using a different set of files. > > Please test everything and when you think you've got a working build, > you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an > updated script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try > it, but there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first, > otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office > from tomorrow until 19^th April, and realistically it's more like > beginning of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going > to have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever > going to get these releases done. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > It should be looking like in the attached file. > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Should I see connector pages in these menus? > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create > a new project that had access to connector pages. > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the > running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs > fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in > the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. > > If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that > makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and > its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" > to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new > TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being > displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated > pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) > then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of > the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > Try now, > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte > project. There should be one blank page in the project. > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might > be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the > Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of > Xerte.exe has not been updated. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > Whoops! > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to > include the latest bits from a test project :-( > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it > doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > OK latest update. > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are > in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to > create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need > attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think > these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents > of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in > the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test > installation for testing the new models, but it will not include > currently the language features. > > Re. Xerte > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be > enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't > know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte > application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have > been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then > they will need adding. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least > create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using > Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, > wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for > these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area > in which you will know best. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files > and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am > not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the > communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this > new development on the road. > > 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any > changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way > that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not > noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards > section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new > version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and > the XOT build files. > > 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. > This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new > "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders > for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the > php script files that build the template.xwd file. > > 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files > are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model > files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will > contain the individual xwd files. > > 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and > where will they be located? > > 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. 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URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Apr 5 13:14:29 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:14:29 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA95D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It should only be set once. Is there a global form (the one that configures the data on the LO icon) where this could reside? From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2012 13:14 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use the en-gb, nl-nl string as data. Do you mean putting the language code option in pages.xwd? There is a language option in there waiting to be used. However I can't see how that is going to work. When you create the project will every language set of xwds be copied into the new project folder i.e. wizards/en, wizards/nl etc. (Do these need to become en-gb, etc.) Would you want to create some pages of a project using an xwd in one language and then create other pages in another language? Would not the selection of a language be made at the time of creating the new project. If this is what you are thinking then no problem I can update the pages.xwd file.. Do you have a list of codes you are using? I am assuming we are on desktop Xerte with this discussion? Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2012 12:51, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Yes, there is one thing that I think still needs to be done, and that is make it porssible to select the language the LO is supposed to be presented in. This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use the en-gb, nl-nl string as data. Than in the setup script, the correct language should be loaded: rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/' + + '.xml'); Could you do that? Default should be rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/en-gb.xml'); Thanks! Tom Op 5-4-2012 13:01, Kemp Johnathan schreef: OK The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is defining file names now in a different format e.g. the old version had file="english.xml" whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the language file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to en-gb.xml I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at the moment. Tom if there is anything you can think of let me know. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn runtime folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the paths to match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then installed it on a pc that did not have xerte installed. I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. However the preview failed with the message "error language data failed to load". (It is necessary on my version at present to manually copy across the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new project, but when this is done the languages error persists) So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the connector pages not showing yesterday. However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping files out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. Kind regards Johnathan On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney > wrote: If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people can download and install it. Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into a state that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and tease everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just needs finishing off now! From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 05 April 2012 10:00 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder pagetemplate.rlo pagetemplate.xml pagetemplate.xwd and rename them to pages.rlo etc Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no sense. I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any obvious difference between it and my development setup. I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be. The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders > wrote: Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as well. I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part out. Tom Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file associated with .rlo files. Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new Connector pages option in the menu. However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed. Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence would you be able to make available the installation build that he put together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my installation to see what might be missing. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one project to another as I developed it. I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. JK On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to access it, or Fay can. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:44 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release available while you are away? I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need to get things tidied up before a break! I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great time. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > wrote: Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need to change some paths. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:36 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. To create a build I run run.bat? Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? JK On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you haven't commited something or you're using a different set of files. Please test everything and when you think you've got a working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow until 19th April, and realistically it's more like beginning of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever going to get these releases done. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:26 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs It should be looking like in the attached file. JK On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: Should I see connector pages in these menus? Error! Filename not specified. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a new project that had access to connector pages. Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX" When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Try now, I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project. If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Whoops! Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-( JK On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? Error! Filename not specified. From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs OK latest update. Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language features. Re. Xerte I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. Kind regards Johnathan On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 To: Xerte Developers Discussion List Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. This should provide a working set of models to test. During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated. I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in which you will know best. Kind regards Johnathan On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the road. 1. With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. 2. With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build the template.xwd file. 3. With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ 4. In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the individual xwd files. 5. I will also add the new thumbnail images to the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. 6. Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and where will they be located? 7. My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? 8. Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready for testing? Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From reijnders at tor.nl Thu Apr 5 13:16:27 2012 From: reijnders at tor.nl (Tom Reijnders) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:16:27 +0200 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA95D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA95D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F7D8D1B.8030107@tor.nl> Yes, I think so... I'll have a look. For now, I am not that concerned about disk space... Op 5-4-2012 14:14, Julian Tenney schreef: > > It should only be set once. Is there a global form (the one that > configures the data on the LO icon) where this could reside? > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2012 13:14 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use > the en-gb, nl-nl string as data. > > Do you mean putting the language code option in pages.xwd? > > There is a language option in there waiting to be used. However I > can't see how that is going to work. When you create the project will > every language set of xwds be copied into the new project folder i.e. > wizards/en, wizards/nl etc. (Do these need to become en-gb, etc.) > Would you want to create some pages of a project using an xwd in one > language and then create other pages in another language? > > Would not the selection of a language be made at the time of creating > the new project. > > If this is what you are thinking then no problem I can update the > pages.xwd file.. > > Do you have a list of codes you are using? > > I am assuming we are on desktop Xerte with this discussion? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 12:51, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Yes, there is one thing that I think still needs to be done, and that > is make it porssible to select the language the LO is supposed to be > presented in. > > This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use > the en-gb, nl-nl string as data. > > Than in the setup script, the correct language should be loaded: > > > rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/' + + '.xml'); > > Could you do that? Default should be > rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/en-gb.xml'); > > Thanks! > > Tom > > > Op 5-4-2012 13:01, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > OK > > The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is > defining file names now in a different format e.g. the old version had > file="english.xml" whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". > > The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the > language file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to > en-gb.xml > > I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. > > I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at > the moment. > > Tom if there is anything you can think of let me know. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn > runtime folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the > paths to match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then > installed it on a pc that did not have xerte installed. > > I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. > > However the preview failed with the message "error language data > failed to load". (It is necessary on my version at present to > manually copy across the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new > project, but when this is done the languages error persists) > > So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the > connector pages not showing yesterday. > > However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. > > I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping > files out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org > where people can download and install it. > > Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into a > state that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to > the new format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / > comments and tease everything out. I sense this is probably closer > than I think, it just needs finishing off now! > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 05 April 2012 10:00 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > OK > > I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder. > > What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder > > pagetemplate.rlo > > pagetemplate.xml > > pagetemplate.xwd > > and rename them to pages.rlo etc > > Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy > all three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. > > At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no > connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be > to remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that > makes no sense. > > I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build > that Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can > find any obvious difference between it and my development setup. > > I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte > installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project > with connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that > needs to be. The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the > project it failed with an error message saying it could not find the > language file. This might be because associations in windows were not > set up as the program was not installed. Just a thought though. There > have been recent discussions regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or > "en ?" (I can't remember what the second bit was. Would these > discussions have resulted in any changes that need to be reflected in > the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ? > > I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed > inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing > with inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable > option. > > Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders > wrote: > > Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the > file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file > as well. > > I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host > it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure > that part out. > > Tom > > Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: > > Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. > > We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by > the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the > pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. > Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file > associated with .rlo files. > > Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth > changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any > confusion with pageTemplates.rlt? > > I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is > a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is > that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the > new Connector pages option in the menu. > > However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a > PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was > possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that > project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file > could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed. > > Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence > would you be able to make available the installation build that he put > together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with > my installation to see what might be missing. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the > associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being > copied into the project folder, when a new project is created. This > probably has always been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. > I realise now that the .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must > have copied the xwd and xml file from one project to another as I > developed it. > > I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus. > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people > to access it, or Fay can. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release > available while you are away? > > I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just > need to get things tidied up before a break! > > I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a > great time. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might > need to change some paths. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn > runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. > > To create a build I run run.bat? > > Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I > have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you haven't commited > something or you're using a different set of files. > > Please test everything and when you think you've got a working build, > you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an > updated script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try > it, but there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first, > otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office > from tomorrow until 19^th April, and realistically it's more like > beginning of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going > to have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever > going to get these releases done. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > It should be looking like in the attached file. > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Should I see connector pages in these menus? > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create > a new project that had access to connector pages. > > Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the > running version of the app once built. If that doesn't work, it needs > fixing, so you can answer your own question about what will happen in > the build: just run xerte.exe amongst the repo files. > > If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files that > makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn. > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and > its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" > to "TextX" > > When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the new > TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it. > > So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being > displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated > pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer Connector pages) > then I think it is probably down to not having the right version of > the files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > Try now, > > I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! > > I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte > project. There should be one blank page in the project. > > If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might > be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the > Wizard folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property. > > It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of > Xerte.exe has not been updated. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > Whoops! > > Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to > include the latest bits from a test project :-( > > JK > > On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it > doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45 > > > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > OK latest update. > > Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are > in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to > create a project and add new pages. One feature that will need > attention is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think > these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents > of the modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in > the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test > installation for testing the new models, but it will not include > currently the language features. > > Re. Xerte > > I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be > enough to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't > know which files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte > application for the new "pages" project type. If these changes have > been added to the runtime then we should be in business, if not then > they will need adding. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney > wrote: > > Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to install > toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least > create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, > > *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > ] *On Behalf Of *Kemp > Johnathan > *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09 > > > *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List > > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs > > I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model > files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder > wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using > Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds. > > This should provide a working set of models to test. > > During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, > wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for > these changes have updated them in the XOT svn. > > Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need > updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new > data.xwd file will need to be generated. > > I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to > complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area > in which you will know best. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan > wrote: > > Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files > and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am > not sure about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the > communication is shared with all parties who are helping to put this > new development on the road. > > 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made any > changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and > pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way > that "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not > noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards > section of the svn. If there are changes where can I get the new > version of the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and > the XOT build files. > > 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we > need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. > This "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new > "pages" project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders > for "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the > php script files that build the template.xwd file. > > 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new files > are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the model > files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ > > 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will > contain the individual xwd files. > > 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the > modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. > > 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server and > where will they be located? > > 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need to > consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he > can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? > > 8.Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review the > situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build > ready for testing? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From patrick.lockley at googlemail.com Thu Apr 5 17:12:59 2012 From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com (Pat Lockley) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 17:12:59 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs In-Reply-To: <4F7D89E8.7050209@tor.nl> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6C1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6D7@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA6E4@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7CA1A0.7000002@tor.nl> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5FCA876@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4F7D8737.5030303@tor.nl> <4F7D89E8.7050209@tor.nl> Message-ID: the buttons On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Tom Reijnders wrote: > buttons you mean? > > Or icons? > > What needs to be done t xot is to be able to select a language somewhere.... > (for xot) > > Now, at least we are using the same language string across the board! > (en-gb) > > Op 5-4-2012 13:55, Pat Lockley schreef: > >> Tom, you and Johnathan seem busy with this - want me to do pictures? >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>> >>> Yes, there is one thing that I think still needs to be done, and that is >>> make it porssible to select the language the LO is supposed to be >>> presented >>> in. >>> >>> This should be (I think) a dropdown box of the main XWD. It should use >>> the >>> en-gb, nl-nl string as data. >>> >>> Than in the setup script, the correct language should be loaded: >>> >>> >>> rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/' + ?+ '.xml'); >>> >>> Could you do that? Default should be >>> rootIcon.loadLanguage('languages/en-gb.xml'); >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> Op 5-4-2012 13:01, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>> >>> OK >>> >>> The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is defining >>> file >>> names now in a different format e.g. the old version had >>> file="english.xml" >>> whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml". >>> >>> The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the language >>> file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to en-gb.xml >>> >>> I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml. >>> >>> I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at the >>> moment. >>> >>> Tom if there is anything ?you can think of let me know. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnathan >>> >>> On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan >>> ?wrote: >>>> >>>> I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn runtime >>>> folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the paths to >>>> match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then installed it >>>> on a >>>> pc that did not have xerte installed. >>>> >>>> I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it. >>>> >>>> However the preview failed with the message "error language data failed >>>> to >>>> load". ?(It is necessary on my version at present to manually copy >>>> across >>>> the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new project, but when this is >>>> done the languages error persists) >>>> >>>> So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the connector >>>> pages not showing yesterday. >>>> >>>> However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages. >>>> >>>> I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping >>>> files >>>> out to try to find the file that is causing the problem. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Johnathan >>>> >>>> On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people >>>>> can download and install it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into ?a >>>>> state >>>>> that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new >>>>> format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and >>>>> tease >>>>> everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just >>>>> needs >>>>> finishing off now! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> Sent: 05 April 2012 10:00 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime >>>>> folder. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ >>>>> folder >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> pagetemplate.rlo >>>>> >>>>> pagetemplate.xml >>>>> >>>>> pagetemplate.xwd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> and rename them to pages.rlo etc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy >>>>> all >>>>> three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no >>>>> connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be >>>>> to >>>>> remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that >>>>> makes no >>>>> sense. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build >>>>> that >>>>> Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find >>>>> any >>>>> obvious difference between it and my development setup. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte >>>>> installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project >>>>> with >>>>> connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to >>>>> be. >>>>> The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed >>>>> with >>>>> an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might >>>>> be >>>>> because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not >>>>> installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions >>>>> regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what >>>>> the >>>>> second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes >>>>> that >>>>> need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. >>>>> wizards/en ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed >>>>> inno >>>>> and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno >>>>> and >>>>> I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email >>>>> Fay. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders ?wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the >>>>> file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file >>>>> as >>>>> well. >>>>> >>>>> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host >>>>> it >>>>> as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that >>>>> part >>>>> out. >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef: >>>>> >>>>> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by >>>>> the >>>>> failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the >>>>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder. >>>>> Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file >>>>> associated with .rlo files. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth >>>>> changing >>>>> the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion >>>>> with >>>>> pageTemplates.rlt? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a >>>>> challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is >>>>> that >>>>> the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new >>>>> Connector pages option in the menu. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC >>>>> that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was >>>>> possible >>>>> to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. >>>>> There >>>>> was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be >>>>> found, >>>>> but that might be because Xerte was not installed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence >>>>> would >>>>> you be able to make available the installation build that he put >>>>> together? I >>>>> would like to install it and then try to compare it with my >>>>> installation to >>>>> see what might be missing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the >>>>> associated >>>>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into >>>>> the >>>>> project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always >>>>> been >>>>> the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the >>>>> .rlo >>>>> work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml >>>>> file >>>>> from one project to another as I developed it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector >>>>> menus. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> JK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people >>>>> to >>>>> access it, or Fay can. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:44 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release >>>>> available while you are away? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just >>>>> need >>>>> to get things tidied up before a break! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great >>>>> time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might >>>>> need >>>>> to change some paths. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:36 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn >>>>> runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To create a build I run run.bat? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> JK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It doesn?t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I >>>>> have >>>>> no idea why this doesn?t work. Either you haven?t commited something or >>>>> you?re using a different set of files. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please test everything and when you think you?ve got a working build, >>>>> you >>>>> can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated >>>>> script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but >>>>> there?s >>>>> no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone >>>>> just >>>>> wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow until 19th >>>>> April, >>>>> and realistically it?s more like beginning of May when I will have any >>>>> time >>>>> again. You guys are going to have to work some of this stuff out for >>>>> yourselves if we?re ever going to get these releases done. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:26 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It should be looking like in the attached file. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> JK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Should I see connector pages in these menus? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Error! Filename not specified. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 16:05 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create >>>>> a >>>>> new project that had access to connector pages. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running >>>>> version of the app once built. If that doesn?t work, it needs fixing, >>>>> so you >>>>> can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just >>>>> run >>>>> xerte.exe amongst the repo files. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If it doesn?t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes >>>>> it work, cos I?ve got the latest files from the svn. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 15:50 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and >>>>> its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to >>>>> "TextX" >>>>> >>>>> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages ?project the new TextX >>>>> menu group was displayed with the new page in it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being >>>>> displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated >>>>> pageTemplates.xtp >>>>> so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is >>>>> probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver >>>>> the >>>>> Xerte editor, exe. etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Try now, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project. >>>>> There should be one blank page in the project. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might >>>>> be >>>>> as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard >>>>> folder, >>>>> and correct references in the xwd menus property. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of >>>>> Xerte.exe has not been updated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Whoops! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to >>>>> include >>>>> the latest bits from a test project :-( >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> JK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it >>>>> doesn?t >>>>> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Error! Filename not specified. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 14:45 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OK latest update. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in >>>>> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create >>>>> a >>>>> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that >>>>> some >>>>> of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in >>>>> Flash. >>>>> So if Ron were to take the contents of the >>>>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT >>>>> svn he >>>>> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for >>>>> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language >>>>> features. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Re. Xerte >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be >>>>> enough >>>>> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which >>>>> files >>>>> Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the >>>>> new >>>>> "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime >>>>> then >>>>> we should be in business, if not then they will need adding. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It?s easy to install >>>>> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create, >>>>> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> Sent: 04 April 2012 12:09 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List >>>>> >>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model >>>>> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder >>>>> wizards/en/ >>>>> ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php >>>>> scripts >>>>> from the individual xwds. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This should provide a working set of models to test. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf, >>>>> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for >>>>> these >>>>> changes have updated them in the XOT svn. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need >>>>> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new >>>>> data.xwd file will need to be generated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to >>>>> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area >>>>> in >>>>> which you will know best. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files >>>>> and >>>>> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not >>>>> sure >>>>> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the >>>>> communication is >>>>> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on >>>>> the >>>>> road. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1. ? ? ?With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made >>>>> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models >>>>> and >>>>> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way >>>>> that >>>>> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed >>>>> any >>>>> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. >>>>> If >>>>> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they >>>>> need >>>>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files. >>>>> >>>>> 2. ? ? ?With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that >>>>> we >>>>> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. >>>>> This >>>>> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages" >>>>> project. >>>>> Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain >>>>> the >>>>> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that build >>>>> the >>>>> template.xwd file. >>>>> >>>>> 3. ? ? ?With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new >>>>> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the >>>>> model >>>>> files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder >>>>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/ >>>>> >>>>> 4. ? ? ?In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in >>>>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain >>>>> the >>>>> individual xwd files. >>>>> >>>>> 5. ? ? ?I will also add the new thumbnail images to the >>>>> ?modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder. >>>>> >>>>> 6. ? ? ?Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server >>>>> and where will they be located? >>>>> >>>>> 7. ? ? ?My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need >>>>> to >>>>> consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he >>>>> can >>>>> download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server? >>>>> >>>>> 8. ? ? ?Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review >>>>> the >>>>> situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready >>>>> for >>>>> testing? >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Johnathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >>>>> and >>>>> may contain confidential information. If you have received this message >>>>> in >>>>> error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do >>>>> not >>>>> use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in >>>>> any >>>>> attachment. 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Email communications with the >>> University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Xerte-dev mailing list >> Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev >> > > -- > -- > > Tom Reijnders > TOR Informatica > Chopinlaan 27 > 5242HM Rosmalen > Tel: 073 5226191 > Fax: 073 5226196 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Mon Apr 9 23:06:32 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:06:32 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages Message-ID: Hello everyone - a little puzzle for Easter, I don't know if anyone can throw any light on this little problem I have hit. Xerte desktop creates an array rootIcon.pages By the time a learning object setup script runs rootIcon.pages has not been defined as it has undefined length. By the time a script off an Entry Frame runs it has length 0, so it has been created but not populated. By the time a script in a page runs its length is the number of pages in the project. For each entry in the array Xerte will place the details of a page including the extXML data so you can get at the values set in an xwd form for any page in your project. However at the time the first page has loaded only the details of the xml for the first page have loaded. By the time the next page of a project is loaded the array is fully populated. This effectively means that my Connector pages which use this array for desktop projects (but not for XOt projects) cannot work as the first page of a project, because they cannot look up the pages they are set up to connect to. However it appears that the loading of the style sheet in my entryFrame's setup script effectively causes the first page to load twice. This is invisible to the end user but any debug statements will be repeated, showing the page loaded twice. This has the benefit that in Xerte preview mode, or if the published project is viewed in Internet Explorer or Firefox a connector page can operate as the first page of a project, because by the time the page has reloaded the rootIcon.pages array is fully populated. The twist is I have been trying to use this to make it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page by adding ?pageID=myTargetPage to the url of an external link to the project. I achieve this by adding some Connector page like code to the title page. A project then uses this form of Title page as the first page of the project. When the project opens in the browser it opens at the first page and the pageID value if one is passed in the Url gets captured. The Title page then uses the same method as a standard connector page to go to the page specified by the pageID. I have this working in Firefox and Internet Explorer. However in Opera the url parameter captures perfectly but for some reason the rootIcon.pages array is still not populated with the extXML data for any of the other pages, so the redirect fails. If I use the Xerte navigation to move to page 2 and then go back to the title page it will redirect to the page specified in the url, so the principle works in Opera. So is there a way I can force the rootIcon.pages array to fully populate before I move on to compare the url pageID. I tried a while loop but just looping until the array has time to populate does not work. I guess because the array stops populating whilst the loop is running. I am sure this would be a feature many people would find useful, so any ideas as to how I get the page to wait until the array is populated would be much appreciated. Kind regards Johnathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Mon Apr 9 23:18:40 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 18:18:40 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What does a wait interaction in the entryframe do? Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:06:32 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages Hello everyone - a little puzzle for Easter, I don't know if anyone can throw any light on this little problem I have hit. Xerte desktop creates an array rootIcon.pages By the time a learning object setup script runs rootIcon.pages has not been defined as it has undefined length. By the time a script off an Entry Frame runs it has length 0, so it has been created but not populated.By the time a script in a page runs its length is the number of pages in the project. For each entry in the array Xerte will place the details of a page including the extXML data so you can get at the values set in an xwd form for any page in your project. However at the time the first page has loaded only the details of the xml for the first page have loaded. By the time the next page of a project is loaded the array is fully populated. This effectively means that my Connector pages which use this array for desktop projects (but not for XOt projects) cannot work as the first page of a project, because they cannot look up the pages they are set up to connect to. However it appears that the loading of the style sheet in my entryFrame's setup script effectively causes the first page to load twice. This is invisible to the end user but any debug statements will be repeated, showing the page loaded twice. This has the benefit that in Xerte preview mode, or if the published project is viewed in Internet Explorer or Firefox a connector page can operate as the first page of a project, because by the time the page has reloaded the rootIcon.pages array is fully populated. The twist is I have been trying to use this to make it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page by adding ?pageID=myTargetPage to the url of an external link to the project. I achieve this by adding some Connector page like code to the title page. A project then uses this form of Title page as the first page of the project. When the project opens in the browser it opens at the first page and the pageID value if one is passed in the Url gets captured. The Title page then uses the same method as a standard connector page to go to the page specified by the pageID. I have this working in Firefox and Internet Explorer. However in Opera the url parameter captures perfectly but for some reason the rootIcon.pages array is still not populated with the extXML data for any of the other pages, so the redirect fails. If I use the Xerte navigation to move to page 2 and then go back to the title page it will redirect to the page specified in the url, so the principle works in Opera. So is there a way I can force the rootIcon.pages array to fully populate before I move on to compare the url pageID. I tried a while loop but just looping until the array has time to populate does not work. I guess because the array stops populating whilst the loop is running. I am sure this would be a feature many people would find useful, so any ideas as to how I get the page to wait until the array is populated would be much appreciated. Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Xerte-dev mailing list Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 10 11:17:23 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:17:23 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for that Dave. A wait makes for a slightly untidy start since the title page loads but has undefined displayed until the timer has finished, but it does give time for the array to build. I guess the optimal solution would be for Xerte to broadcast an event when the array has been built, then it might be possible to limit the delay to the minimum. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 April 2012 23:18, Dave Burnett wrote: > What does a wait interaction in the entryframe do? > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:06:32 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages > > > Hello everyone - a little puzzle for Easter, > > I don't know if anyone can throw any light on this little problem I have > hit. > > Xerte desktop creates an array rootIcon.pages > > By the time a learning object setup script runs rootIcon.pages has not > been defined as it has undefined length. > By the time a script off an Entry Frame runs it has length 0, so it has > been created but not populated. > By the time a script in a page runs its length is the number of pages in > the project. > > For each entry in the array Xerte will place the details of a page > including the extXML data so you can get at the values set in an xwd form > for any page in your project. However at the time the first page has loaded > only the details of the xml for the first page have loaded. By the time the > next page of a project is loaded the array is fully populated. > > This effectively means that my Connector pages which use this array for > desktop projects (but not for XOt projects) cannot work as the first page > of a project, because they cannot look up the pages they are set up to > connect to. > > However it appears that the loading of the style sheet in my entryFrame's > setup script effectively causes the first page to load twice. This is > invisible to the end user but any debug statements will be repeated, > showing the page loaded twice. > > This has the benefit that in Xerte preview mode, or if the published > project is viewed in Internet Explorer or Firefox a connector page can > operate as the first page of a project, because by the time the page has > reloaded the rootIcon.pages array is fully populated. > > The twist is I have been trying to use this to make it possible to open a > Xerte project at a specific page by adding > > ?pageID=myTargetPage > > to the url of an external link to the project. I achieve this by adding > some Connector page like code to the title page. A project then uses this > form of Title page as the first page of the project. When the project > opens in the browser it opens at the first page and the pageID value if one > is passed in the Url gets captured. The Title page then uses the same > method as a standard connector page to go to the page specified by the > pageID. > > I have this working in Firefox and Internet Explorer. However in Opera the > url parameter captures perfectly but for some reason the rootIcon.pages > array is still not populated with the extXML data for any of the other > pages, so the redirect fails. If I use the Xerte navigation to move to page > 2 and then go back to the title page it will redirect to the page specified > in the url, so the principle works in Opera. > > So is there a way I can force the rootIcon.pages array to fully populate > before I move on to compare the url pageID. I tried a while loop but just > looping until the array has time to populate does not work. I guess because > the array stops populating whilst the loop is running. I am sure this would > be a feature many people would find useful, so any ideas as to how I get > the page to wait until the array is populated would be much appreciated. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Apr 10 13:01:49 2012 From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk (Julian Tenney) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:01:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC65F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Listen for rooticon.onInit, it fires once the initial parse is complete ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] Sent: 10 April 2012 11:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages Thanks for that Dave. A wait makes for a slightly untidy start since the title page loads but has undefined displayed until the timer has finished, but it does give time for the array to build. I guess the optimal solution would be for Xerte to broadcast an event when the array has been built, then it might be possible to limit the delay to the minimum. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 April 2012 23:18, Dave Burnett > wrote: What does a wait interaction in the entryframe do? ________________________________ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:06:32 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages Hello everyone - a little puzzle for Easter, I don't know if anyone can throw any light on this little problem I have hit. Xerte desktop creates an array rootIcon.pages By the time a learning object setup script runs rootIcon.pages has not been defined as it has undefined length. By the time a script off an Entry Frame runs it has length 0, so it has been created but not populated. By the time a script in a page runs its length is the number of pages in the project. For each entry in the array Xerte will place the details of a page including the extXML data so you can get at the values set in an xwd form for any page in your project. However at the time the first page has loaded only the details of the xml for the first page have loaded. By the time the next page of a project is loaded the array is fully populated. This effectively means that my Connector pages which use this array for desktop projects (but not for XOt projects) cannot work as the first page of a project, because they cannot look up the pages they are set up to connect to. However it appears that the loading of the style sheet in my entryFrame's setup script effectively causes the first page to load twice. This is invisible to the end user but any debug statements will be repeated, showing the page loaded twice. This has the benefit that in Xerte preview mode, or if the published project is viewed in Internet Explorer or Firefox a connector page can operate as the first page of a project, because by the time the page has reloaded the rootIcon.pages array is fully populated. The twist is I have been trying to use this to make it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page by adding ?pageID=myTargetPage to the url of an external link to the project. I achieve this by adding some Connector page like code to the title page. A project then uses this form of Title page as the first page of the project. When the project opens in the browser it opens at the first page and the pageID value if one is passed in the Url gets captured. The Title page then uses the same method as a standard connector page to go to the page specified by the pageID. I have this working in Firefox and Internet Explorer. However in Opera the url parameter captures perfectly but for some reason the rootIcon.pages array is still not populated with the extXML data for any of the other pages, so the redirect fails. If I use the Xerte navigation to move to page 2 and then go back to the title page it will redirect to the page specified in the url, so the principle works in Opera. So is there a way I can force the rootIcon.pages array to fully populate before I move on to compare the url pageID. I tried a while loop but just looping until the array has time to populate does not work. I guess because the array stops populating whilst the loop is running. I am sure this would be a feature many people would find useful, so any ideas as to how I get the page to wait until the array is populated would be much appreciated. Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Tue Apr 10 14:30:01 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:30:01 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC65F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC65F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: If I have an interaction as a child of the entry frame and add a time limit with a wait of 1 second and hang a script of the time limit icon with the contents debug("last page id is " + rootIcon.pages[2].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.name); debug("first page id is " + rootIcon.pages[0].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.pageID); debug("second page id is " + rootIcon.pages[1].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.pageID); I see values reported back for each debug line. If I have an interation as a child of the entry frame and add an event icon with eventName = onInit and icon = rootIcon and then attach the same script as above to it each of the three entries returns undefined e.g. last page id is undefined. This suggests that the onInit event fires before the population of the pages array has completed? Kind regards Johnathan On 10 April 2012 13:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > Listen for rooticon.onInit, it fires once the initial parse is complete > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ > johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > Sent: 10 April 2012 11:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages > > Thanks for that Dave. > > A wait makes for a slightly untidy start since the title page loads but > has undefined displayed until the timer has finished, but it does give time > for the array to build. > > I guess the optimal solution would be for Xerte to broadcast an event when > the array has been built, then it might be possible to limit the delay to > the minimum. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 9 April 2012 23:18, Dave Burnett d_b_burnett at hotmail.com>> wrote: > What does a wait interaction in the entryframe do? > > ________________________________ > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:06:32 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages > > > Hello everyone - a little puzzle for Easter, > > I don't know if anyone can throw any light on this little problem I have > hit. > > Xerte desktop creates an array rootIcon.pages > > By the time a learning object setup script runs rootIcon.pages has not > been defined as it has undefined length. > By the time a script off an Entry Frame runs it has length 0, so it has > been created but not populated. > By the time a script in a page runs its length is the number of pages in > the project. > > For each entry in the array Xerte will place the details of a page > including the extXML data so you can get at the values set in an xwd form > for any page in your project. However at the time the first page has loaded > only the details of the xml for the first page have loaded. By the time the > next page of a project is loaded the array is fully populated. > > This effectively means that my Connector pages which use this array for > desktop projects (but not for XOt projects) cannot work as the first page > of a project, because they cannot look up the pages they are set up to > connect to. > > However it appears that the loading of the style sheet in my entryFrame's > setup script effectively causes the first page to load twice. This is > invisible to the end user but any debug statements will be repeated, > showing the page loaded twice. > > This has the benefit that in Xerte preview mode, or if the published > project is viewed in Internet Explorer or Firefox a connector page can > operate as the first page of a project, because by the time the page has > reloaded the rootIcon.pages array is fully populated. > > The twist is I have been trying to use this to make it possible to open a > Xerte project at a specific page by adding > > ?pageID=myTargetPage > > to the url of an external link to the project. I achieve this by adding > some Connector page like code to the title page. A project then uses this > form of Title page as the first page of the project. When the project > opens in the browser it opens at the first page and the pageID value if one > is passed in the Url gets captured. The Title page then uses the same > method as a standard connector page to go to the page specified by the > pageID. > > I have this working in Firefox and Internet Explorer. However in Opera the > url parameter captures perfectly but for some reason the rootIcon.pages > array is still not populated with the extXML data for any of the other > pages, so the redirect fails. If I use the Xerte navigation to move to page > 2 and then go back to the title page it will redirect to the page specified > in the url, so the principle works in Opera. > > So is there a way I can force the rootIcon.pages array to fully populate > before I move on to compare the url pageID. I tried a while loop but just > looping until the array has time to populate does not work. I guess because > the array stops populating whilst the loop is running. I am sure this would > be a feature many people would find useful, so any ideas as to how I get > the page to wait until the array is populated would be much appreciated. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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URL: From d_b_burnett at hotmail.com Tue Apr 10 18:26:04 2012 From: d_b_burnett at hotmail.com (Dave Burnett) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:26:04 -0400 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages In-Reply-To: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC661@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: , , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC65F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk>, , , <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC661@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Maybe the banana peel is here:.extXML The page is inited, but the external xml has not been parsed?I take it these are all pages that are models/templates, not built within desktop itself. From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:15:15 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages wait till next week and I'll investgate further. Or look in the engine source to see when that onInit is being fired From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] Sent: 10 April 2012 14:30 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages If I have an interaction as a child of the entry frame and add a time limit with a wait of 1 second and hang a script of the time limit icon with the contents debug("last page id is " + rootIcon.pages[2].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.name); debug("first page id is " + rootIcon.pages[0].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.pageID); debug("second page id is " + rootIcon.pages[1].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.pageID); I see values reported back for each debug line. If I have an interation as a child of the entry frame and add an event icon with eventName = onInit and icon = rootIcon and then attach the same script as above to it each of the three entries returns undefined e.g. last page id is undefined. This suggests that the onInit event fires before the population of the pages array has completed? Kind regards Johnathan On 10 April 2012 13:01, Julian Tenney wrote: Listen for rooticon.onInit, it fires once the initial parse is complete ________________________________________ From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] Sent: 10 April 2012 11:17 To: For Xerte technical developers Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages Thanks for that Dave. A wait makes for a slightly untidy start since the title page loads but has undefined displayed until the timer has finished, but it does give time for the array to build. I guess the optimal solution would be for Xerte to broadcast an event when the array has been built, then it might be possible to limit the delay to the minimum. Kind regards Johnathan On 9 April 2012 23:18, Dave Burnett > wrote: What does a wait interaction in the entryframe do? ________________________________ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:06:32 +0100 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com To: Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages Hello everyone - a little puzzle for Easter, I don't know if anyone can throw any light on this little problem I have hit. Xerte desktop creates an array rootIcon.pages By the time a learning object setup script runs rootIcon.pages has not been defined as it has undefined length. By the time a script off an Entry Frame runs it has length 0, so it has been created but not populated. By the time a script in a page runs its length is the number of pages in the project. For each entry in the array Xerte will place the details of a page including the extXML data so you can get at the values set in an xwd form for any page in your project. However at the time the first page has loaded only the details of the xml for the first page have loaded. By the time the next page of a project is loaded the array is fully populated. This effectively means that my Connector pages which use this array for desktop projects (but not for XOt projects) cannot work as the first page of a project, because they cannot look up the pages they are set up to connect to. However it appears that the loading of the style sheet in my entryFrame's setup script effectively causes the first page to load twice. This is invisible to the end user but any debug statements will be repeated, showing the page loaded twice. This has the benefit that in Xerte preview mode, or if the published project is viewed in Internet Explorer or Firefox a connector page can operate as the first page of a project, because by the time the page has reloaded the rootIcon.pages array is fully populated. The twist is I have been trying to use this to make it possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page by adding ?pageID=myTargetPage to the url of an external link to the project. I achieve this by adding some Connector page like code to the title page. A project then uses this form of Title page as the first page of the project. When the project opens in the browser it opens at the first page and the pageID value if one is passed in the Url gets captured. The Title page then uses the same method as a standard connector page to go to the page specified by the pageID. I have this working in Firefox and Internet Explorer. However in Opera the url parameter captures perfectly but for some reason the rootIcon.pages array is still not populated with the extXML data for any of the other pages, so the redirect fails. If I use the Xerte navigation to move to page 2 and then go back to the title page it will redirect to the page specified in the url, so the principle works in Opera. So is there a way I can force the rootIcon.pages array to fully populate before I move on to compare the url pageID. I tried a while loop but just looping until the array has time to populate does not work. I guess because the array stops populating whilst the loop is running. I am sure this would be a feature many people would find useful, so any ideas as to how I get the page to wait until the array is populated would be much appreciated. Kind regards Johnathan This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 11 11:02:49 2012 From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com (Kemp Johnathan) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:02:49 +0100 Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages In-Reply-To: References: <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC65F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <12C67A1EEC419342AF5E59DA31562C3F0BA5DDC661@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for the offer Julian, I will wait till next week. Letting me loose in the engine might be interesting but risky - a bit like releasing a well intentioned bull in a china shop! Yes Dave, all the pages are based on the new individual rlm and xwd files. Xerte builds an array with an entry for each page, but by the time the first page runs only the entry for the first page has been populated. However if you add an Interaction with a time delay to the Entry Frame then you can wait until the array has been populated - but how long to wait? It would be better to be able to act on an event. I have been re-thinking my approach. Initially I thought to add the code for the capture of the url parameter and the redirection to the title page, but I think it might be better to add it to the rlo. I believe I could use the same approach in a XOT project (different array though) which could make it possible to open existing projects at a specific page based on either a page name or page ID. I will test this out further once we get the beta releases of Xerte and XOT available. Kind regards Johnathan On 10 April 2012 18:26, Dave Burnett wrote: > Maybe the banana peel is here: > .extXML > The page is inited, but the external xml has not been parsed? > I take it these are all pages that are models/templates, not built within > desktop itself. > > > ------------------------------ > From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk > To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:15:15 +0100 > > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages > > wait till next week and I'll investgate further. Or look in the > engine source to see when that onInit is being fired > > ------------------------------ > *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ > johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > *Sent:* 10 April 2012 14:30 > *To:* For Xerte technical developers > *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates > rootIcon.pages > > If I have an interaction as a child of the entry frame and add a time > limit with a wait of 1 second and hang a script of the time limit icon with > the contents > debug("last page id is " + > rootIcon.pages[2].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.name); > debug("first page id is " + > rootIcon.pages[0].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.pageID); > debug("second page id is " + > rootIcon.pages[1].extXML.firstChild.childNodes[0].attributes.pageID); > > I see values reported back for each debug line. > > If I have an interation as a child of the entry frame and add an event > icon with eventName = onInit and icon = rootIcon and then attach the same > script as above to it each of the three entries returns undefined e.g. > > last page id is undefined. > > This suggests that the onInit event fires before the population of the > pages array has completed? > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > > On 10 April 2012 13:01, Julian Tenney wrote: > > Listen for rooticon.onInit, it fires once the initial parse is complete > ________________________________________ > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [ > xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan [ > johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com] > Sent: 10 April 2012 11:17 > To: For Xerte technical developers > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages > > Thanks for that Dave. > > A wait makes for a slightly untidy start since the title page loads but > has undefined displayed until the timer has finished, but it does give time > for the array to build. > > I guess the optimal solution would be for Xerte to broadcast an event when > the array has been built, then it might be possible to limit the delay to > the minimum. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > On 9 April 2012 23:18, Dave Burnett d_b_burnett at hotmail.com>> wrote: > What does a wait interaction in the entryframe do? > > ________________________________ > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:06:32 +0100 > From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com > To: Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] How to wait while Xerte populates rootIcon.pages > > > Hello everyone - a little puzzle for Easter, > > I don't know if anyone can throw any light on this little problem I have > hit. > > Xerte desktop creates an array rootIcon.pages > > By the time a learning object setup script runs rootIcon.pages has not > been defined as it has undefined length. > By the time a script off an Entry Frame runs it has length 0, so it has > been created but not populated. > By the time a script in a page runs its length is the number of pages in > the project. > > For each entry in the array Xerte will place the details of a page > including the extXML data so you can get at the values set in an xwd form > for any page in your project. However at the time the first page has loaded > only the details of the xml for the first page have loaded. By the time the > next page of a project is loaded the array is fully populated. > > This effectively means that my Connector pages which use this array for > desktop projects (but not for XOt projects) cannot work as the first page > of a project, because they cannot look up the pages they are set up to > connect to. > > However it appears that the loading of the style sheet in my entryFrame's > setup script effectively causes the first page to load twice. This is > invisible to the end user but any debug statements will be repeated, > showing the page loaded twice. > > This has the benefit that in Xerte preview mode, or if the published > project is viewed in Internet Explorer or Firefox a connector page can > operate as the first page of a project, because by the time the page has > reloaded the rootIcon.pages array is fully populated. > > The twist is I have been trying to use this to make it possible to open a > Xerte project at a specific page by adding > > ?pageID=myTargetPage > > to the url of an external link to the project. I achieve this by adding > some Connector page like code to the title page. A project then uses this > form of Title page as the first page of the project. When the project > opens in the browser it opens at the first page and the pageID value if one > is passed in the Url gets captured. The Title page then uses the same > method as a standard connector page to go to the page specified by the > pageID. > > I have this working in Firefox and Internet Explorer. However in Opera the > url parameter captures perfectly but for some reason the rootIcon.pages > array is still not populated with the extXML data for any of the other > pages, so the redirect fails. If I use the Xerte navigation to move to page > 2 and then go back to the title page it will redirect to the page specified > in the url, so the principle works in Opera. > > So is there a way I can force the rootIcon.pages array to fully populate > before I move on to compare the url pageID. I tried a while loop but just > looping until the array has time to populate does not work. I guess because > the array stops populating whilst the loop is running. I am sure this would > be a feature many people would find useful, so any ideas as to how I get > the page to wait until the array is populated would be much appreciated. > > Kind regards > > Johnathan > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do > not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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This > message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may > still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you > are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the > University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Xerte-dev mailing list > Xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte-dev > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do > not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in > any attachment. 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Most of the work is done on unifying Xerte and XOT templates and internationalisation support. A few notes: - Only Jonathan and I have done some testing with this version. We haven't taken the time to do thorough testing, because we would like you to help us with that :-) - The internationalisation support is not finished yet. Some things do work already and Dutch pages are available to give you a feel for what can be done (if you know how to decipher Dutch). I am working on completing the translation of the wizard. - I am working on integrating the pages into XOT, and provide language files for the internationalized code Pat made available. I use http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk for that as well. **** IMPORTANT *** Almost all new features can be found in the Pages menu. The Page templates could be made obsolete, but we have not done so. If anyone has a good idea on nomenclature so we can prevent confusion between working in Page Wizard/Native/Page Templates mode, please come forward. I am afraid we added to the confusion. **** Quick start guide **** 1. When you use Pages->Create Template Project From pages you basically start a template based (XOT like) project that you fill completely within the wizard, like the old Page Templates. 2. When starting Pages->Create new Page project, a project similar to the old PageWizards is started, when you are on the 'Interface' icon, you can add a new 'Page' to the project from the Pages menus. Each page will expand it's full underlying structure, and (when not modified) can be filled with the wizard. This makes the old PageWizards obsolete. We did NOT change any functionality in the Templates menu. You can download the beta installer here: http://www.xerte.org.uk/beta/xerte_beta.exe Have fun! Tom -- -- Tom Reijnders TOR Informatica Chopinlaan 27 5242HM Rosmalen Tel: 073 5226191 Fax: 073 5226196 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Release notes.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 66112 bytes Desc: not available URL: From diana.g.a.rosa at gmail.com Thu Apr 12 21:34:44 2012 From: diana.g.a.rosa at gmail.com (Diana Rosa) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:34:44 -0300 Subject: [Xerte-dev] XerteOnlineToolkit xerte>languages>pt_br.xml Message-ID: Hello, I would like to contribute with a translation to Brazilian Portuguese: Abra?os, Diana xerte>languages>pt_br.xml ? default azul verde vermelho laranja lil?s cinza contraste 1 contraste 2 default large larger tela inteira janela inteira default default pequeno medio grande enorme P?gina de