<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Dear colleagues</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks Ximo to start this debate and give us info about this paper. [I include copy of all messages about this issue at the end of this, for people that like to follow all “history” until here…]</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think that most of us remember how were the things during XX century… and for sure previously to Google search engine… 15 years ago maximum…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now most complicate it is not to obtain the information… the complicate thing it is to read, analyze and apply all the information published each month… each week?… never in the past had been so easy to stay in contact with experts around the world or to contact with people and collaborate in research studies for all the people that like to do this… or at least this is more possible that in the close past (that was very difficult and unfortunately in many cases impossible…). This web site is a very well example of this.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Our “real” knowledge about syrphids is very heterogeneous… we have a lot of bio/ecological data of a few species… and almost nothing about the majority…. but this is normal in many other groups of flies (and insects…). And this is of course same comparing different geographic areas… and also with a lot of species that are complicate to identify… BUT Syrphidae is probably one of the best-studied groups of flies with a lot of research centers, research groups, researchers… and a myriad of lovers and amateurs interested in the hoverflies/flower flies. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Why occur then things like this?</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">a) I agree that syrphid community could help more (but we really try to help to people that contact with us as has been indicated and this website is an example!) BUT… the important thing it is not that keys are not available… becuase the key information is available! what it is this info?… that there are not general keys for all parts of the world… and some areas there are not keys at all… even this occur in not remote areas, occur with speciose genus of when reviews of taxonomical studies do not exist… but returning to the specific case that had been presented here</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">=> It is well-know using a lot of (very easy) sources of information… (starting from Wikipedia...) that genera Palpada & Copestylum are New World genera with a few exceptions of introduced species… this info is very easy to obtain... You can use a Neartic key to identify genus, no problem it is a tool to study BUT you must check the results if you like to do science. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">=> But using all the tools available in this century… it is not difficult to discover other things related with this case that "makes my hair stands on end”… well as many of you know English it is not my mother language ;-) :-) … but I think that you can understand with the follow info</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">a) I do not know nothing about main author of paper, but for sure it is not young graduate student… according his profile in Research gate (also free available) is Associate professor in an Indian University with more that 100 research items…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">b) This is not the first paper about syrphids where he appear as author or co-author… I found 3 more. Apparently their profile is applied related with biological control and this could to explain but not to justify the follow mistakes…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">b.1) Effect of insecticides on biodiversity of aphidophagous syrphid flies in fruit ecosystems of Kashmir</div><div class="">(2017, Journal of Entomology and Zoology journal)</div><div class="">Free full paper available. In the abstract you can read that Eristalis tenax and Eoeristalis cerealis are the main species… apparently he also sampled the larvae in the field...</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.entomoljournal.com/archives/?year=2017&vol=5&issue=4&part=B&ArticleId=2053" class="">http://www.entomoljournal.com/archives/?year=2017&vol=5&issue=4&part=B&ArticleId=2053</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">b.2) Functional response of four syrphid predators associated with Mealy Cabbage Aphid, Brevicoryne brassicae L. on Cruciferous Vegetables.</div><div class="">(2017, International Journal of Current Microbiology and Applied Sciences)</div><div class="">Free available in the below link. In this case 2 of the species included and rearing in lab conditions (eating aphids!!) are: Eristalis cerealis and Eristalis tenax...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318452763_Functional_Response_of_Four_Syrphid_Predators_Associated_with_Mealy_Cabbage_Aphid_Brevicoryne_brassicae_L_on_Cruciferous_Vegetables" class="">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318452763_Functional_Response_of_Four_Syrphid_Predators_Associated_with_Mealy_Cabbage_Aphid_Brevicoryne_brassicae_L_on_Cruciferous_Vegetables</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">b.3) <a class="article-link" href="https://academic.oup.com/jee/article/109/1/78/2614224/Functional-Response-of-Four-Syrphid-Predators?searchresult=1" style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(42, 42, 42); text-decoration: none;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">Functional</span> <span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">Response</span> of <span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">Four</span> <span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">Syrphid</span> <span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">Predators</span> Associated With Green Apple Aphid (Hemiptera: Aphididae) in Laboratory</a></div><div class="">(2016, Journal of Economic Entomology)</div><div class="">Similarly to previous paper Eristalis cerealis and Eristalis tenax are also included to study the predatory potencial of these species…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://academic.oup.com/jee/article-abstract/109/1/78/2614224/Functional-Response-of-Four-Syrphid-Predators?redirectedFrom=fulltext" class="">https://academic.oup.com/jee/article-abstract/109/1/78/2614224/Functional-Response-of-Four-Syrphid-Predators?redirectedFrom=fulltext</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">then…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think that this is a BIG and serious problem…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">a) Journals</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">=> International Journal of Current Microbiology and Applied Sciences</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.ijcmas.com/abstractview.php?ID=2287&vol=6-5-2017&SNo=47" class="">http://www.ijcmas.com/abstractview.php?ID=2287&vol=6-5-2017&SNo=47</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">=> Journal of Entomology and Zoology journal</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.entomoljournal.com" class="">http://www.entomoljournal.com</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Both include “reference/links” to impact factor lists… or even with logo of Thomson Reuters… but DO NOT APPEAR in the JCR lists…</div><div class="">Both appear listed as “Predatory Journal” in the main webs about this phenomenon:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://predatoryjournals.com/journals/#I" class="">https://predatoryjournals.com/journals/#I</a></div><div class=""><a href="http://fake-indian-journals.blogspot.com.es/2015/03/complete-list-of-fake-predatory-or.html" class="">http://fake-indian-journals.blogspot.com.es/2015/03/complete-list-of-fake-predatory-or.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> … yes we are lining in a complex and dangerous world…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">BUT the main problem is with:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">=> Journal of Economic Entomology…. belonging to Entomological Society of America!!… how is this possible that this occur in a peer-reviewed journal with JCR impact factor?… as far I know there are not any addendum or erratum in the Journal until now… at least I do not found it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m sorry for the long mail… impossible to explain by Twitter ;-) but I like to share this from a humid and hot Sunday from SouthEast Spain…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Santos Rojo</div><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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My guess is that it will never be eradicated entirely, but we can minimise it by free access in one place. </span><br class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></blockquote><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br class=""></span>Free-access is not the solution, but it will help. Websites like ResearchGate, <a href="http://syrphidae.myspecies.info/" class="">http://syrphidae.myspecies.info/</a>, our own websites, and some more (Sci-Hub, etc.) offer all our papers for free. We do have the possibility to ask for some references in this discussion list as well. So, in my opinion, we cannot excuse a bad scientific article on the fact that authors did not have the appropriate literature. Moreover, editors and reviewers must check also that the bibliographic references are appropriate.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">and also having a well-known system of offering help in ID to everyone working on syrphids. If we had a single syrphid website for taxonomy, keys and ID help, this would go a long way towards eradicating such errors. The authors at least tried to identify their material, which is good to see. Some don't get that far.</span><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></div>Why would we have a 'single' website? Freedom of choice is important in this internet era. Anyway, the platform is there already.<br class=""></div>We can help on determination but we must not. I'm not paid to suggests names based on images, although I do it very gladly. <br class=""></div>We cannot be pleased because authors have tried to put names on their material. Basically, I cannot thank that they cited two genera from Kashmir that occur thousands kilometers away; I cannot thank that nobody else could check the ID of those flies (probably the material is not kept in proper conditions any longer); I cannot thank that those records will be in the literature forever without a small chance to be studied by someone else; I cannot be thankful because they tried their best. I do think that sometimes is better to use sp1, sp2, etc. rather than names, especially with the uncertainty is high.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">none of the researchers ever thought about how to ID the material before the study, nobody includes funding in their grants and most people expect to find somebody to do this for free</span><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></div>That's one of the reasons why we do not get money for taxonomy: the society (researchers included) have used to grant our resources for free. "No worries, this or that guy will determine the specimens". And we are part of the problem by providing names for free as suggested before. I'm getting paid from tax-payers money and very glad to help anyone coming to me asking doubts, as well students who need help. Thus, an incorrect ID cannot be justified by the lack of willing from our side.<br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">By reaching out and making connections to the authors and provide future authoritative support whereby these researchers – and others - can avoid future errors. Perhaps the authors do not have access to the latest taxonomic literature</span><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Perhaps, but see my comment above. A simple email to this list or to any of us is sufficient to get the literature you need. What I cannot do is their job: put all possible efforts to do accurate IDs and do proper science.<br class=""></div><div class="">The other question is why I should provide 'authoritative' support if I'm not asked for it. I don't think the authors would be happy if I come with my 'authoritative' knowledge (without being asked) and tell them that their IDs are wrong. This behavior has created more problems than solutions in the history of humankind.<span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">most of the taxonomic work has been done, is unavailable because it’s still owned by private corporate publishing firms that exact ridiculous fees to access these works (most of which were actually publicly financed)</span><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I agree, but I'm not asking here to fight 'Goliath', this is not the place or the moment to discuss this.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Be happy there are researchers doing work with syrphids. Mentor them: I’d bet that this was a young graduate student’s work that had to be submitted to qualify for (future) funding and education. Encourage them to submit their work to other people with more taxonomic and systematic experience, and perhaps to journals with better editors and reviewers.</span><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I'm happy to see that everyday, more and more people enjoy syrphids as much as I do, but this is not an excuse for bad science. I have mentored some of those young, extremely active researchers/students, and trust me when I say it is not easy: email correspondence was not created to determine specimens. <br class=""></div><div class="">Again, this particular case is just an example. The fact that bad taxonomy is published by a young graduate student is not an excuse. Shall we also mentor her/his mentor? I think I'm not the right person to evaluate a mentorship, but I can dislike this kind of papers that create confusion instead of enlightenment. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class="">We can not blame ourselves to justify that others have not done their job. We can keep saying '<i class="">we do not do enough from our side</i>', but I hope this is not the single answer I get.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best wishes,<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ximo</div></div></div></blockquote><br class="">—————</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Inicio del mensaje reenviado:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">De: </b>"Ethan Bright" <<a href="mailto:ethanbr@umich.edu" class="">ethanbr@umich.edu</a>><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">Asunto: </b><b class="">[Syrphidae] Re: An example not to follow</b><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">Fecha: </b>17 de julio de 2017, 18:30:27 CEST<br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">Para: </b>"'Hoverfly discussion list'" <<a href="mailto:syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" class="">syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">How to avoid this? By reaching out and making connections to the authors and provide future authoritative support whereby these researchers – and others - can avoid future errors. Perhaps the authors do not have access to the latest taxonomic literature; India is itself a huge country, and perhaps a lot of literature from the west and increasingly the orient, where most of the taxonomic work has been done, is unavailable because it’s still owned by private corporate publishing firms that exact ridiculous fees to access these works (most of which were actually publicly financed).<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Be happy there are researchers doing work with syrphids. Mentor them: I’d bet that this was a young graduate student’s work that had to be submitted to qualify for (future) funding and education. Encourage them to submit their work to other people with more taxonomic and systematic experience, and perhaps to journals with better editors and reviewers. With support and encouragement, most people will improve their game and, in the end, be better scientists and contribute to our knowledge.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class="">—————</div><div><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote class="" style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><div class=""><div class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><div class="">Inicio del mensaje reenviado:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">De: </b>Francis Gilbert <<a href="mailto:Francis.Gilbert@nottingham.ac.uk" class="">Francis.Gilbert@nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">Asunto: </b><b class="">[Syrphidae] Re: An example not to follow</b><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">Fecha: </b>17 de julio de 2017, 11:17:58 CEST<br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">Para: </b>Martin Hauser <<a href="mailto:phycus@gmail.com" class="">phycus@gmail.com</a>>, Hoverfly discussion list <<a href="mailto:syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" class="">syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br class=""></div><br class="">Quite right, Martin !<o:p class=""></o:p>I stand corrected. But don't you think that at least such a website might narrow the focus to a list of possible names?<o:p class=""></o:p> Francis<o:p class=""></o:p> <div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""> Martin Hauser [<a href="mailto:phycus@gmail.com" class="">mailto:phycus@gmail.com</a>] <br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> 17 July 2017 09:59<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> Gilbert Francis <<a href="mailto:plzfg@exmail.nottingham.ac.uk" class="">plzfg@exmail.nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [Syrphidae] Re: An example not to follow<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class="">sorry but with all the free Lit in the world, you can not ID Syrphids from Kashmir! It is first user error, when you use a Nearctic key for a Palaearctic/Oriental region. People need to understand that identification (and I am talking about correct identification) is often very difficult, and just a few experts can do this and maybe it should not necessarily be free all the time (because when it is free, nobody values it). I get thousands of specimens from pollinator/ecological and biodiversity studies for identification - none of the researchers ever thought about how to ID the material before the study, nobody includes funding in their grants and most people expect to find somebody to do this for free - no wonder such expertise has such a low value these days...<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class="">On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Francis Gilbert <<a href="mailto:Francis.Gilbert@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank" class="" style="color: purple;">Francis.Gilbert@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><br class=""></div>and also having a well-known system of offering help in ID to everyone working on syrphids. If we had a single syrphid website for taxonomy, keys and ID help, this would go a long way towards eradicating such errors. The authors at least tried to identify their material, which is good to see. Some don't get that far.<o:p class=""></o:p> <o:p class=""></o:p>Francis</span></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div>—————</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""></blockquote></div></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Inicio del mensaje reenviado:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">De: </b>Francis Gilbert <<a href="mailto:Francis.Gilbert@nottingham.ac.uk" class="">Francis.Gilbert@nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">Asunto: </b><b class="">[Syrphidae] Re: An example not to follow</b><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">Fecha: </b>17 de julio de 2017, 10:28:58 CEST<br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px;" class=""><b class="">Para: </b>ximo mengual sanchis <<a href="mailto:xmengual@gmail.com" class="">xmengual@gmail.com</a>>, Hoverfly discussion list <<a href="mailto:syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" class="">syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Surely only by having taxonomy and keys all available freely on the Web. My guess is that it will never be eradicated entirely, but we can minimise it by free access in one place.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Francis<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""> <a href="mailto:syrphidae-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" class="">syrphidae-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:syrphidae-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" class="">mailto:syrphidae-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>ximo mengual sanchis<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> 17 July 2017 09:19<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> Hoverfly discussion list <<a href="mailto:syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" class="">syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> [Syrphidae] An example not to follow<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt;">Dear all,<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt;">the attached article was published today in an Indian journal. Besides many Grammar typos, they cite two genera from Kashmir that only occur in the New World.<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt;">How to avoid this? It takes a lot of time to clean this mess afterwards.<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt;">Best wishes,<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class="">Ximo<br class=""><br clear="all" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;" class="">******************************************************** <br class=""><font size="2" class=""><span class="">Dr. Ximo Mengual<br class="">Head of the Diptera Section<br class=""><span class="">Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig <br class="">Leibniz</span></span><span class="">-</span><span class="">Institut für Biodiversität der Tiere</span><span class=""><br class="">Adenauerallee 160 <br class="">D-53113 Bonn, Germany<br class="">Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292<br class=""></span><a href="https://www.zfmk.de/en/zfmk/ximo-mengual" target="_blank" class="" style="color: purple;">ZFMK web</a><a href="http://entomology.si.edu/StaffPages/MengualJ.html" target="_blank" class="" style="color: purple;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"><br class=""></span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></font></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt;"><font size="2" class=""><span class=""><a href="https://www.bolgermany.de/" target="_blank" class="" style="color: purple;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">https://www.bolgermany.de/</span></a></span> | <span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"><a href="http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/" target="_blank" class="" style="color: purple;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/</span></a></span><br class=""></font><span class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><pre class=""><font face="Helvetica" class="">
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