<p dir="ltr">Thanks guys.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I realized about the errors... they are so obvious!!</p>
<p dir="ltr">My question was more about the general idea of invasive/introduced syrphid species.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Best regards,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Ximo</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">El 06/01/2015 19:25, "Martin Hauser" <<a href="mailto:phycus@gmail.com">phycus@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">Cyrille,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">I second your identification, clearly predatory Cecidomyiidae! Also the E tenax is E. arbustorum (5516409) an the Simosyrphus (5507035) is a female of Eristalis stipator!<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">1599325 is Toxomerus politus<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">And in the US they refer to Cheilosia grossa under C. corydon.... and this one was introduced as a biocontrol agent to fight the European thistle...<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">54544290 is Eupeodes, likely E. americanus<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">5454418 is Toxomerus marginatus<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">5454419 is my favorite, a Bombyliidae Poecilanthrax very likely P. lucifer<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">I just realized there are much more records, but it is not worth my time going through that... another big database full of errors and useless information...<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">Cheers<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">Martin<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Cyrille DUSSAIX <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cyrille.dussaix@orange.fr" target="_blank">cyrille.dussaix@orange.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    
    <span lang="en"><span>Especially</span>
      <span>the pictures of</span> <span>5485943,
        5485944 (perhaps ?), 5485945, 5485946 </span> <span>are
        not</span> <span>syrphid</span> <span>larvae</span>
      but </span>
    
    <span lang="en"><span>
        
        Cecidomyiidae..</span></span>.<br>
    <br>
    Happy New Year.<br>
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    <div>Le 06/01/2015 17:28, Francis Gilbert a
      écrit :<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The
            list doesn't look like a list of invasives, but of a random
            set of pictures including a lot of invasives.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Surely
            most invasive species have colonised because of humans,
            whether deliberate or not, so the distinction does not seem
            to be a useful one.
            The key point is that most colonisations fail, however they
            occur in the forst
            place: it is the successful ones that become 'invasives' and
            the reasons for
            that success are interesting and worth studying.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Francis<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:syrphidae-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">syrphidae-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
              [<a href="mailto:syrphidae-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:syrphidae-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
                Behalf Of </b>ximo
              mengual sanchis<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> 06 January 2015 16:20<br>
              <b>To:</b> Hoverfly discussion list<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Syrphidae] Syrphids as invasive species<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear
                        all,<u></u><u></u></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I
                      would like to continue with
                      the discussion on introduced species, and if some
                      of them may be considered
                      'invasive'.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">In
                    the webpage <a href="http://invasive.org" target="_blank">invasive.org</a>,
                    dealing with invasive species for
                    USA, there is a list of syrphids: <a href="http://www.invasive.org/browse/TaxImages.cfm?fam=475" target="_blank">http://www.invasive.org/browse/TaxImages.cfm?fam=475</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I have
                  a special interest in <i>Simosyrphus
                    grandicornis</i>, which has been introduced to a
                  number of Polynesian Islands
                  and Hawaii. So, if this species has been introduced by
                  humans, why now consider
                  it as invasive? <u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Does
                anyone have more
                information about the introduction of <i>S.
                  grandicornis</i> or its
                invasiveness?<u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks for
              the helpful
              comments.<u></u><u></u></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Best wishes,<br>
            <br>
            Ximo<u></u><u></u></p>
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              SYRPHIDAE D’EUROPE : <a href="http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cyrille.dussaix/" target="_blank">http://perso.orange.fr/cyrille.dussaix/</a></span></tt></p>
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