From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Wed Nov  8 17:41:18 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 17:41:18 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] papers by W Renema
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Hi everyone

Does anyone have pdfs of the papers by Willem Renema published either in Stridula (in volume 17[2]) or Amoeba (in volume 65[5])?

Thanks

Francis


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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Fri Nov 10 12:07:51 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:07:51 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] papers by W Renema
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Hi Ximo

Thanks, but John Smit and Menno have supplied the papers
Cheers

Francis


From: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 10:58 AM
To: Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] papers by W Renema

Hi Francis,

I only have those from Nederlandse Faunistische Mededelingen. Do you have full references for those articles?

Ximo

El mi?, 8 nov 2023 a las 18:41, Francis Gilbert (<Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>>) escribi?:
Hi everyone

Does anyone have pdfs of the papers by Willem Renema published either in Stridula (in volume 17[2]) or Amoeba (in volume 65[5])?

Thanks

Francis


Prof Francis Gilbert
B132 Life Science Building, University Park, University of Nottingham
Nottingham NG7 2RD
website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg<http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg>

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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Fri Nov 10 13:15:50 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:15:50 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] papers by W Renema
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Sorry ? yes of course
Here are some more for good measure

Francis


From: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 1:10 PM
To: Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] papers by W Renema

Do you mind sharing them with me? :)

Have a great weekend,

Ximo

El vie, 10 nov 2023 a las 13:07, Francis Gilbert (<Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>>) escribi?:
Hi Ximo

Thanks, but John Smit and Menno have supplied the papers
Cheers

Francis


From: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com<mailto:xmengual at gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 10:58 AM
To: Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] papers by W Renema

Hi Francis,

I only have those from Nederlandse Faunistische Mededelingen. Do you have full references for those articles?

Ximo

El mi?, 8 nov 2023 a las 18:41, Francis Gilbert (<Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>>) escribi?:
Hi everyone

Does anyone have pdfs of the papers by Willem Renema published either in Stridula (in volume 17[2]) or Amoeba (in volume 65[5])?

Thanks

Francis


Prof Francis Gilbert
B132 Life Science Building, University Park, University of Nottingham
Nottingham NG7 2RD
website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg<http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg>

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From frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com  Sun Nov 19 20:46:02 2023
From: frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com (Frank Van de Meutter)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 21:46:02 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
Message-ID: <CAE28asNCZ1Qh6Z5SJ0fUhyKhEWRH1_8CHaN976C+4GXfuQ9ftw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
does anyone have a pdf of the below papers or excerpts of books?
best regards,
Frank

Mutin, V.A. 1993. New and little known species of flower flies (Diptera,
Syrphidae) from Soviet Far East and Siberia. Pp. 109-115. In Lelei, A.S.
[Ed.]. News of insect systematics of the Soviet Far East. Akademiya Nauk
SSSR, Dalnevostochnoe Otdelenie, Vladivostok. 1990, 136 pp. [1993.??.??]
Matsumura, S. & Adachi, J. 1919. Synopsis of the economic Syrphidae of
Japan. Pt. III. [sic][=IV]. Ent. Mag. Kyoto 3: 128-144, pl. 3.
Violovitsh, N.A. 1957. New palaearctic Syrphidae (Diptera) from the Far
Eastern Territory of the USSR. Entomologicheskoe Obozrenie 36: 748-755.
Stackelberg, A.A. 1955. Palearkticheskie vidy roda Neoascia Will. (Diptera,
Syrphidae). Trudy zool. Inst., Leningrad. 21: 342-352.
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From muscapaul at gmail.com  Mon Nov 20 07:43:31 2023
From: muscapaul at gmail.com (muscapaul)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 08:43:31 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
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References: <CAE28asNCZ1Qh6Z5SJ0fUhyKhEWRH1_8CHaN976C+4GXfuQ9ftw@mail.gmail.com>
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Just the one...

On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 21:45, Frank Van de Meutter <
frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> does anyone have a pdf of the below papers or excerpts of books?
> best regards,
> Frank
>
> Mutin, V.A. 1993. New and little known species of flower flies (Diptera,
> Syrphidae) from Soviet Far East and Siberia. Pp. 109-115. In Lelei, A.S.
> [Ed.]. News of insect systematics of the Soviet Far East. Akademiya Nauk
> SSSR, Dalnevostochnoe Otdelenie, Vladivostok. 1990, 136 pp. [1993.??.??]
> Matsumura, S. & Adachi, J. 1919. Synopsis of the economic Syrphidae of
> Japan. Pt. III. [sic][=IV]. Ent. Mag. Kyoto 3: 128-144, pl. 3.
> Violovitsh, N.A. 1957. New palaearctic Syrphidae (Diptera) from the Far
> Eastern Territory of the USSR. Entomologicheskoe Obozrenie 36: 748-755.
> Stackelberg, A.A. 1955. Palearkticheskie vidy roda Neoascia Will.
> (Diptera, Syrphidae). Trudy zool. Inst., Leningrad. 21: 342-352.
> _______________________________________________
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From xmengual at gmail.com  Mon Nov 20 08:22:02 2023
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:22:02 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
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Here the pdfs.

Ximo

El dom, 19 nov 2023 a las 21:45, Frank Van de Meutter (<
frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>) escribi?:

> Hi all,
> does anyone have a pdf of the below papers or excerpts of books?
> best regards,
> Frank
>
> Mutin, V.A. 1993. New and little known species of flower flies (Diptera,
> Syrphidae) from Soviet Far East and Siberia. Pp. 109-115. In Lelei, A.S.
> [Ed.]. News of insect systematics of the Soviet Far East. Akademiya Nauk
> SSSR, Dalnevostochnoe Otdelenie, Vladivostok. 1990, 136 pp. [1993.??.??]
> Matsumura, S. & Adachi, J. 1919. Synopsis of the economic Syrphidae of
> Japan. Pt. III. [sic][=IV]. Ent. Mag. Kyoto 3: 128-144, pl. 3.
> Violovitsh, N.A. 1957. New palaearctic Syrphidae (Diptera) from the Far
> Eastern Territory of the USSR. Entomologicheskoe Obozrenie 36: 748-755.
> Stackelberg, A.A. 1955. Palearkticheskie vidy roda Neoascia Will.
> (Diptera, Syrphidae). Trudy zool. Inst., Leningrad. 21: 342-352.
> _______________________________________________
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Mon Nov 20 09:06:32 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:06:32 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
In-Reply-To: <CA+Gew0TewZzSVedGwQ2GTEdcZ0mBDXbDTR7JV-aU9he=R6zUuA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE28asNCZ1Qh6Z5SJ0fUhyKhEWRH1_8CHaN976C+4GXfuQ9ftw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+Gew0TewZzSVedGwQ2GTEdcZ0mBDXbDTR7JV-aU9he=R6zUuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AS8PR06MB82145A0B9E504813986AF12FBEB4A@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

The Stackelberg seems to be available here
https://b.eruditor.link/file/3521191/

Francis


From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> On Behalf Of muscapaul
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 7:44 AM
To: Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>
Cc: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers

Just the one...

On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 21:45, Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
does anyone have a pdf of the below papers or excerpts of books?
best regards,
Frank

Mutin, V.A. 1993. New and little known species of flower flies (Diptera, Syrphidae) from Soviet Far East and Siberia. Pp. 109-115. In Lelei, A.S. [Ed.]. News of insect systematics of the Soviet Far East. Akademiya Nauk SSSR, Dalnevostochnoe Otdelenie, Vladivostok. 1990, 136 pp. [1993.??.??]
Matsumura, S. & Adachi, J. 1919. Synopsis of the economic Syrphidae of Japan. Pt. III. [sic][=IV]. Ent. Mag. Kyoto 3: 128-144, pl. 3.

Violovitsh, N.A. 1957. New palaearctic Syrphidae (Diptera) from the Far Eastern Territory of the USSR. Entomologicheskoe Obozrenie 36: 748-755.

Stackelberg, A.A. 1955. Palearkticheskie vidy roda Neoascia Will. (Diptera, Syrphidae). Trudy zool. Inst., Leningrad. 21: 342-352.
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Mon Nov 20 10:25:19 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:25:19 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] FW:  Stackelberg papers
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 <CA+Gew0TewZzSVedGwQ2GTEdcZ0mBDXbDTR7JV-aU9he=R6zUuA@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at kuleuven.be>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 9:51 AM
To: Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>; muscapaul <muscapaul at gmail.com>; Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>
Cc: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers

As always you all have been a great help!! Thanks!
About the link that Francis sent - My pc tells me this is a malicious site. My pc may be overprotective, but keep in mind it might be something fishy.

cheers,
Frank
________________________________
Van: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> namens Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>>
Verzonden: maandag 20 november 2023 10:06
Aan: muscapaul <muscapaul at gmail.com<mailto:muscapaul at gmail.com>>; Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>>
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Onderwerp: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers


The Stackelberg seems to be available here

https://b.eruditor.link/file/3521191/



Francis





From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> On Behalf Of muscapaul
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 7:44 AM
To: Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>>
Cc: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers



Just the one...



On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 21:45, Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

does anyone have a pdf of the below papers or excerpts of books?

best regards,

Frank



Mutin, V.A. 1993. New and little known species of flower flies (Diptera, Syrphidae) from Soviet Far East and Siberia. Pp. 109-115. In Lelei, A.S. [Ed.]. News of insect systematics of the Soviet Far East. Akademiya Nauk SSSR, Dalnevostochnoe Otdelenie, Vladivostok. 1990, 136 pp. [1993.??.??]

Matsumura, S. & Adachi, J. 1919. Synopsis of the economic Syrphidae of Japan. Pt. III. [sic][=IV]. Ent. Mag. Kyoto 3: 128-144, pl. 3.



Violovitsh, N.A. 1957. New palaearctic Syrphidae (Diptera) from the Far Eastern Territory of the USSR. Entomologicheskoe Obozrenie 36: 748-755.



Stackelberg, A.A. 1955. Palearkticheskie vidy roda Neoascia Will. (Diptera, Syrphidae). Trudy zool. Inst., Leningrad. 21: 342-352.

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From botsander at gmail.com  Mon Nov 20 16:48:40 2023
From: botsander at gmail.com (Sander Bot)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:48:40 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] FW: Stackelberg papers
In-Reply-To: <AS8PR06MB82140AD0B8F7E394D727C48CBEB4A@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAE28asNCZ1Qh6Z5SJ0fUhyKhEWRH1_8CHaN976C+4GXfuQ9ftw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+Gew0TewZzSVedGwQ2GTEdcZ0mBDXbDTR7JV-aU9he=R6zUuA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,

Did anybody download Stackelberg 1955 successfully? If so, could this be
shared?

Many thanks in advance,
Sander


Op ma 20 nov 2023 om 11:25 schreef Francis Gilbert <
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>:

>
>
>
>
> *From:* Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at kuleuven.be>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2023 9:51 AM
> *To:* Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>; muscapaul <
> muscapaul at gmail.com>; Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
>
>
>
> As always you all have been a great help!! Thanks!
>
> About the link that Francis sent - My pc tells me this is a malicious
> site. My pc may be overprotective, but keep in mind it might be something
> fishy.
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Frank
> ------------------------------
>
> *Van:* Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> namens
> Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Verzonden:* maandag 20 november 2023 10:06
> *Aan:* muscapaul <muscapaul at gmail.com>; Frank Van de Meutter <
> frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>
> *CC:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
>
>
>
> The Stackelberg seems to be available here
>
> https://b.eruditor.link/file/3521191/
>
>
>
> Francis
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> *On Behalf
> Of *muscapaul
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2023 7:44 AM
> *To:* Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
>
>
>
> Just the one...
>
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 21:45, Frank Van de Meutter <
> frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> does anyone have a pdf of the below papers or excerpts of books?
>
> best regards,
>
> Frank
>
>
>
> Mutin, V.A. 1993. New and little known species of flower flies (Diptera,
> Syrphidae) from Soviet Far East and Siberia. Pp. 109-115. In Lelei, A.S.
> [Ed.]. News of insect systematics of the Soviet Far East. Akademiya Nauk
> SSSR, Dalnevostochnoe Otdelenie, Vladivostok. 1990, 136 pp. [1993.??.??]
>
> Matsumura, S. & Adachi, J. 1919. Synopsis of the economic Syrphidae of
> Japan. Pt. III. [sic][=IV]. Ent. Mag. Kyoto 3: 128-144, pl. 3.
>
>
>
> Violovitsh, N.A. 1957. New palaearctic Syrphidae (Diptera) from the Far
> Eastern Territory of the USSR. Entomologicheskoe Obozrenie 36: 748-755.
>
>
>
> Stackelberg, A.A. 1955. Palearkticheskie vidy roda Neoascia Will.
> (Diptera, Syrphidae). Trudy zool. Inst., Leningrad. 21: 342-352.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Syrphidae mailing list
> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Mon Nov 20 16:54:15 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:54:15 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] FW: Stackelberg papers
In-Reply-To: <CADxnVEs2qhCGut+f5sB5w8DXJxSOQ14Q1c_c4+hXU0mkFWo-bg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE28asNCZ1Qh6Z5SJ0fUhyKhEWRH1_8CHaN976C+4GXfuQ9ftw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+Gew0TewZzSVedGwQ2GTEdcZ0mBDXbDTR7JV-aU9he=R6zUuA@mail.gmail.com>
 <AS8PR06MB82145A0B9E504813986AF12FBEB4A@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <PAVPR08MB9331C3408719925F4E56067E80B4A@PAVPR08MB9331.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
 <AS8PR06MB82140AD0B8F7E394D727C48CBEB4A@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <CADxnVEs2qhCGut+f5sB5w8DXJxSOQ14Q1c_c4+hXU0mkFWo-bg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AS8PR06MB82149C529DEB3C5EA5A6794DBEB4A@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

My university IT prevents me from trying it, unfortunately
F

From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> On Behalf Of Sander Bot
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 4:49 PM
To: hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] FW: Stackelberg papers

Hi all,

Did anybody download Stackelberg 1955 successfully? If so, could this be shared?

Many thanks in advance,
Sander


Op ma 20 nov 2023 om 11:25 schreef Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>>:


From: Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at kuleuven.be<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at kuleuven.be>>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 9:51 AM
To: Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>>; muscapaul <muscapaul at gmail.com<mailto:muscapaul at gmail.com>>; Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>>
Cc: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers

As always you all have been a great help!! Thanks!
About the link that Francis sent - My pc tells me this is a malicious site. My pc may be overprotective, but keep in mind it might be something fishy.

cheers,
Frank
________________________________
Van: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> namens Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>>
Verzonden: maandag 20 november 2023 10:06
Aan: muscapaul <muscapaul at gmail.com<mailto:muscapaul at gmail.com>>; Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>>
CC: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
Onderwerp: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers


The Stackelberg seems to be available here

https://b.eruditor.link/file/3521191/



Francis





From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> On Behalf Of muscapaul
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 7:44 AM
To: Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>>
Cc: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers



Just the one...



On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 21:45, Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

does anyone have a pdf of the below papers or excerpts of books?

best regards,

Frank



Mutin, V.A. 1993. New and little known species of flower flies (Diptera, Syrphidae) from Soviet Far East and Siberia. Pp. 109-115. In Lelei, A.S. [Ed.]. News of insect systematics of the Soviet Far East. Akademiya Nauk SSSR, Dalnevostochnoe Otdelenie, Vladivostok. 1990, 136 pp. [1993.??.??]

Matsumura, S. & Adachi, J. 1919. Synopsis of the economic Syrphidae of Japan. Pt. III. [sic][=IV]. Ent. Mag. Kyoto 3: 128-144, pl. 3.



Violovitsh, N.A. 1957. New palaearctic Syrphidae (Diptera) from the Far Eastern Territory of the USSR. Entomologicheskoe Obozrenie 36: 748-755.



Stackelberg, A.A. 1955. Palearkticheskie vidy roda Neoascia Will. (Diptera, Syrphidae). Trudy zool. Inst., Leningrad. 21: 342-352.

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From andrius.petrasiunas at gf.vu.lt  Mon Nov 20 19:14:23 2023
From: andrius.petrasiunas at gf.vu.lt (=?iso-8859-4?Q?Andrius_Petra=B9i=FEnas?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:14:23 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] FW: Stackelberg papers
In-Reply-To: <CADxnVEs2qhCGut+f5sB5w8DXJxSOQ14Q1c_c4+hXU0mkFWo-bg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE28asNCZ1Qh6Z5SJ0fUhyKhEWRH1_8CHaN976C+4GXfuQ9ftw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+Gew0TewZzSVedGwQ2GTEdcZ0mBDXbDTR7JV-aU9he=R6zUuA@mail.gmail.com>
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 <PAVPR08MB9331C3408719925F4E56067E80B4A@PAVPR08MB9331.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <DB5PR08MB10138CD1381F5D6BD47B05CD5D9B4A@DB5PR08MB10138.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all,
I've managed to download it after registering and I put the file (it's djvu format) here:
https://we.tl/t-MrluyPc1Hq

Greetings,

Andrius
________________________________
From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> on behalf of Sander Bot <botsander at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 6:48 PM
To: hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] FW: Stackelberg papers

Hi all,

Did anybody download Stackelberg 1955 successfully? If so, could this be shared?

Many thanks in advance,
Sander


Op ma 20 nov 2023 om 11:25 schreef Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>>:





From: Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at kuleuven.be<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at kuleuven.be>>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 9:51 AM
To: Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>>; muscapaul <muscapaul at gmail.com<mailto:muscapaul at gmail.com>>; Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>>
Cc: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers



As always you all have been a great help!! Thanks!

About the link that Francis sent - My pc tells me this is a malicious site. My pc may be overprotective, but keep in mind it might be something fishy.



cheers,

Frank

________________________________

Van: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> namens Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>>
Verzonden: maandag 20 november 2023 10:06
Aan: muscapaul <muscapaul at gmail.com<mailto:muscapaul at gmail.com>>; Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>>
CC: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
Onderwerp: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers



The Stackelberg seems to be available here

https://b.eruditor.link/file/3521191/



Francis





From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> On Behalf Of muscapaul
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 7:44 AM
To: Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>>
Cc: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers



Just the one...



On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 21:45, Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com<mailto:frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

does anyone have a pdf of the below papers or excerpts of books?

best regards,

Frank



Mutin, V.A. 1993. New and little known species of flower flies (Diptera, Syrphidae) from Soviet Far East and Siberia. Pp. 109-115. In Lelei, A.S. [Ed.]. News of insect systematics of the Soviet Far East. Akademiya Nauk SSSR, Dalnevostochnoe Otdelenie, Vladivostok. 1990, 136 pp. [1993.??.??]

Matsumura, S. & Adachi, J. 1919. Synopsis of the economic Syrphidae of Japan. Pt. III. [sic][=IV]. Ent. Mag. Kyoto 3: 128-144, pl. 3.



Violovitsh, N.A. 1957. New palaearctic Syrphidae (Diptera) from the Far Eastern Territory of the USSR. Entomologicheskoe Obozrenie 36: 748-755.



Stackelberg, A.A. 1955. Palearkticheskie vidy roda Neoascia Will. (Diptera, Syrphidae). Trudy zool. Inst., Leningrad. 21: 342-352.

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From john.smit at naturalis.nl  Tue Nov 21 08:47:10 2023
From: john.smit at naturalis.nl (John Smit)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:47:10 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] FW: Stackelberg papers
In-Reply-To: <AS8PR06MB82149C529DEB3C5EA5A6794DBEB4A@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
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And here you have Stackelberg.

Best wishes,
John

Op ma 20 nov 2023 om 17:54 schreef Francis Gilbert <
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>:

> My university IT prevents me from trying it, unfortunately
>
> F
>
>
>
> *From:* Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> *On Behalf
> Of *Sander Bot
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2023 4:49 PM
> *To:* hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Syrphidae] FW: Stackelberg papers
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Did anybody download Stackelberg 1955 successfully? If so, could this be
> shared?
>
>
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> Sander
>
>
>
>
>
> Op ma 20 nov 2023 om 11:25 schreef Francis Gilbert <
> Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>:
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at kuleuven.be>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2023 9:51 AM
> *To:* Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>; muscapaul <
> muscapaul at gmail.com>; Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
>
>
>
> As always you all have been a great help!! Thanks!
>
> About the link that Francis sent - My pc tells me this is a malicious
> site. My pc may be overprotective, but keep in mind it might be something
> fishy.
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Frank
> ------------------------------
>
> *Van:* Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> namens
> Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Verzonden:* maandag 20 november 2023 10:06
> *Aan:* muscapaul <muscapaul at gmail.com>; Frank Van de Meutter <
> frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>
> *CC:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
>
>
>
> The Stackelberg seems to be available here
>
> https://b.eruditor.link/file/3521191/
>
>
>
> Francis
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> *On Behalf
> Of *muscapaul
> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2023 7:44 AM
> *To:* Frank Van de Meutter <frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg papers
>
>
>
> Just the one...
>
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 21:45, Frank Van de Meutter <
> frank.vandemeutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> does anyone have a pdf of the below papers or excerpts of books?
>
> best regards,
>
> Frank
>
>
>
> Mutin, V.A. 1993. New and little known species of flower flies (Diptera,
> Syrphidae) from Soviet Far East and Siberia. Pp. 109-115. In Lelei, A.S.
> [Ed.]. News of insect systematics of the Soviet Far East. Akademiya Nauk
> SSSR, Dalnevostochnoe Otdelenie, Vladivostok. 1990, 136 pp. [1993.??.??]
>
> Matsumura, S. & Adachi, J. 1919. Synopsis of the economic Syrphidae of
> Japan. Pt. III. [sic][=IV]. Ent. Mag. Kyoto 3: 128-144, pl. 3.
>
>
>
> Violovitsh, N.A. 1957. New palaearctic Syrphidae (Diptera) from the Far
> Eastern Territory of the USSR. Entomologicheskoe Obozrenie 36: 748-755.
>
>
>
> Stackelberg, A.A. 1955. Palearkticheskie vidy roda Neoascia Will.
> (Diptera, Syrphidae). Trudy zool. Inst., Leningrad. 21: 342-352.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Syrphidae mailing list
> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>
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>
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From kelvinklwu at gmail.com  Tue Nov 21 15:25:49 2023
From: kelvinklwu at gmail.com (Wu Kelvin)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 23:25:49 +0800
Subject: [Syrphidae] =?utf-8?q?Curran_and_Ghorpad=C3=A9_papers?=
Message-ID: <CALxrAWtc4a8abxdmd8nidqpgHWspc1SHiPSS8aXCNaJsQfTV7w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am looking for a few papers listed below that seem not available online.
Could this be shared if anyone has copies of them?

1. Curran, C. H. 1926. Notes on Wiedemann?s types of Syrphidae

(Dipt.). Canadian Entomologist 58: 111?115.


2. Curran, C. H. 1928. The!Syrphidae of the Malay Peninsula. Journal

of the Federated Malay States Museums 14(2): 141?324.


3. Ghorpad?, K. 2009. Some nomenclatural notes on Indian Subregion

Syrphini (Diptera?Syrphidae). Colemania, No. 15: 3?13.


Thanks a lot in advance!


Kelvin
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Nov 21 20:15:12 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:15:12 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] =?utf-8?q?Curran_and_Ghorpad=C3=A9_papers?=
In-Reply-To: <CALxrAWtc4a8abxdmd8nidqpgHWspc1SHiPSS8aXCNaJsQfTV7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALxrAWtc4a8abxdmd8nidqpgHWspc1SHiPSS8aXCNaJsQfTV7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AS8PR06MB821427354B93F608D160BAF2BEBBA@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>



From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> On Behalf Of Wu Kelvin
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 3:26 PM
To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Syrphidae] Curran and Ghorpad? papers

Hi All,

I am looking for a few papers listed below that seem not available online.
Could this be shared if anyone has copies of them?


1. Curran, C. H. 1926. Notes on Wiedemann?s types of Syrphidae

(Dipt.). Canadian Entomologist 58: 111?115.



2. Curran, C. H. 1928. The!Syrphidae of the Malay Peninsula. Journal

of the Federated Malay States Museums 14(2): 141?324.



3. Ghorpad?, K. 2009. Some nomenclatural notes on Indian Subregion

Syrphini (Diptera?Syrphidae). Colemania, No. 15: 3?13.



Thanks a lot in advance!



Kelvin
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From botsander at gmail.com  Wed Nov 22 06:45:03 2023
From: botsander at gmail.com (Sander Bot)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 07:45:03 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] =?utf-8?q?Curran_and_Ghorpad=C3=A9_papers?=
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Hi Kelvin,

Here is the link to the other two papers:  https://we.tl/t-AKecOSFwFq
<https://we.tl/t-AKecOSFwFq?utm_campaign=TRN_TDL_05&utm_source=sendgrid&utm_medium=email&trk=TRN_TDL_05>

Cheers,

Sander


Op di 21 nov 2023 om 21:15 schreef Francis Gilbert <
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>:

>
>
>
>
> *From:* Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> *On Behalf
> Of *Wu Kelvin
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 21, 2023 3:26 PM
> *To:* syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Curran and Ghorpad? papers
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am looking for a few papers listed below that seem not available online.
>
> Could this be shared if anyone has copies of them?
>
>
>
> 1. Curran, C. H. 1926. Notes on Wiedemann?s types of Syrphidae
>
> (Dipt.). Canadian Entomologist 58: 111?115.
>
>
>
> 2. Curran, C. H. 1928. The!Syrphidae of the Malay Peninsula. Journal
>
> of the Federated Malay States Museums 14(2): 141?324.
>
>
>
> 3. Ghorpad?, K. 2009. Some nomenclatural notes on Indian Subregion
>
> Syrphini (Diptera?Syrphidae). Colemania, No. 15: 3?13.
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
>
>
>
> Kelvin
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Wed Nov 22 18:18:17 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 18:18:17 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] unknown milesiine
Message-ID: <AS8PR06MB8214CE6C33AE71C5EEFE5952BEBAA@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Does anyone know what this is?
There are some more pictures on the web (link in the pdf).

Francis


Prof Francis Gilbert
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From syrphidae at kevinmoran.com  Wed Nov 22 19:12:43 2023
From: syrphidae at kevinmoran.com (Kevin Moran)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:43 -0500
Subject: [Syrphidae] unknown milesiine
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Hi all,

This is an undescribed genus and species which belongs in the
subtribe Sericomyiina. It is likely sister to all *Sericomyia*. Though I am
waiting on a final tree to be certain of this. An earlier one placed it
sister to (*Macrozelima* + *Teuchocnemis*) with this clade sister to
*Sericomyia*.

It was included in the big phylogeny. I have a series of males and females
and will describe it as part of the paper or in a separate paper alongside
which deals with descriptions of new genera and species included in the AHE
phylogeny.

Best,
Kevin






On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 1:18?PM Francis Gilbert <
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> Does anyone know what this is?
>
> There are some more pictures on the web (link in the pdf).
>
>
>
> Francis
>
>
>
>
>
> Prof Francis Gilbert
>
> B132 Life Science Building, University Park, University of Nottingham
>
> Nottingham NG7 2RD
>
> website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg
>
>
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Wed Nov 22 19:55:46 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 19:55:46 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] unknown milesiine
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References: <AS8PR06MB8214CE6C33AE71C5EEFE5952BEBAA@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <CACb1TruAHetxwiTe3VPYFFMHOTAkX=6iS8XPCkD3V_f+VgTO6A@mail.gmail.com>
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Great - thanks Kevin !

Francis


From: Kevin Moran <syrphidae at kevinmoran.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 7:13 PM
To: Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>
Cc: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] unknown milesiine

Hi all,

This is an undescribed genus and species which belongs in the subtribe Sericomyiina. It is likely sister to all Sericomyia. Though I am waiting on a final tree to be certain of this. An earlier one placed it sister to (Macrozelima + Teuchocnemis) with this clade sister to Sericomyia.

It was included in the big phylogeny. I have a series of males and females and will describe it as part of the paper or in a separate paper alongside which deals with descriptions of new genera and species included in the AHE phylogeny.

Best,
Kevin






On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 1:18?PM Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
Does anyone know what this is?
There are some more pictures on the web (link in the pdf).

Francis


Prof Francis Gilbert
B132 Life Science Building, University Park, University of Nottingham
Nottingham NG7 2RD
website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg<http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg>

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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Thu Nov 23 09:16:45 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:16:45 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] =?utf-8?q?FW=3A_12th_International_Symposium_on_Syrp?=
 =?utf-8?q?hidae_=E2=80=93_First_Circular?=
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From: International Symposium on Syrphidae ISS12 <syrphidae12 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 10:54 PM
To: Jirka Hadrava <hadravajirka at seznam.cz>
Subject: 12th International Symposium on Syrphidae ? First Circular


Dear Fellow Syrphidologists,



it is a great pleasure to invite you to 12th International Symposium on Syrphidae (ISS12). The Symposium will take place in Pr?honice near Prague (Czech Republic), in Pr?honice Castle<https://www.pruhonickypark.cz/en/about-park/castle/>, with accommodation in Hotel Floret<https://floret.cz/en/hotel/>, located in the immediate vicinity of the castle.

The symposium will start on 2nd September 2024 (Monday) in the evening and will end on 7th September 2024 (Saturday) in the morning. The preliminary schedule is following:



Arrival: 2nd September 2024

Symposium: 3rd ? 5th September 2024

Excursion: 6th September 2024

Departure: 7th September 2024

If you are interested in attending the symposium, please, let us know via Registration of interest form<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fnQ45wGqlQL_CfSaCBZxW9p7xbGG1U2sQaHBPvL5ZGQ/edit>. Please, fill in the form during the next month (until 20th December 2023) to receive further information about the ISS12. After filling in the form, we will inform you by e-mail about news regarding the symposium, including registration instructions, fees, and abstract submission.



For more information, you can also visit our website: https://web.natur.cuni.cz/zoologie/syrphidae/. If you have any questions, feel free to contact us on Syrphidae12 at gmail.com<mailto:Syrphidae12 at gmail.com>.

We are looking forward to meeting you all in the Czech Republic!



On behalf of the local Organising Committee,

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From xmengual at gmail.com  Fri Nov 24 13:00:49 2023
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:00:49 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] A larva eating an imago
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Dear all,

Check these images please, and let me know what you think:

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/90016665

This behavior was previously described for a Neotropical species:
https://www.scielo.sa.cr/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0034-77442010000400009

Sure you have ideas about it.

Cheers,

Ximo

********************************************************
Dr. Ximo Mengual
Head of the Diptera Section
Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
Leibniz-Institut zur Analyse des Biodiversit?tswandels
Adenauerallee 127 ? 53113 Bonn, Germany

Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
ZFMK web <https://www.zfmk.de/en/zfmk/ximo-mengual>
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Fri Nov 24 13:31:44 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:31:44 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] A larva eating an imago
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hi Ximo

I am sure this is well within the realms of possibility for many predatory syrphids, but probably the chances of capture are normally very low. Once place where the chances are much higher is in a wasp colony breaking down at the end of the season, when the workers become lethargic, and Volucella pellucens larvae come up into the comb and attack the remaining grubs and sometimes the workers too. Robert Blackith described this to me in a wasp colony he was watching in Ireland (attached).

Francis


Professor Francis Gilbert
Division of Cells, Organisms & Genetics, School of Life Sciences, University of Nottingham
B132 Life Sciences Building, University Park, Nottingham NG7 2RD
Tel: 0115 951 3215
website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg

From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> On Behalf Of ximo mengual sanchis
Sent: 24 November 2023 13:01
To: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Syrphidae] A larva eating an imago

Dear all,

Check these images please, and let me know what you think:

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/90016665

This behavior was previously described for a Neotropical species:
https://www.scielo.sa.cr/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0034-77442010000400009

Sure you have ideas about it.

Cheers,

Ximo

********************************************************
Dr. Ximo Mengual
Head of the Diptera Section
Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
Leibniz-Institut zur Analyse des Biodiversit?tswandels
Adenauerallee 127 ? 53113 Bonn, Germany

Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
ZFMK web<https://www.zfmk.de/en/zfmk/ximo-mengual>
<http://entomology.si.edu/StaffPages/MengualJ.html>
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From m_reemer at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 24 13:59:50 2023
From: m_reemer at hotmail.com (Menno Reemer)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 13:59:50 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] A larva eating an imago
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I have recently seen similar images of a Melanostoma larva apparently attacking an adult Sphaerophoria scripta.
________________________________
From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> on behalf of Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2023 1:31 PM
To: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>; Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] A larva eating an imago


hi Ximo



I am sure this is well within the realms of possibility for many predatory syrphids, but probably the chances of capture are normally very low. Once place where the chances are much higher is in a wasp colony breaking down at the end of the season, when the workers become lethargic, and Volucella pellucens larvae come up into the comb and attack the remaining grubs and sometimes the workers too. Robert Blackith described this to me in a wasp colony he was watching in Ireland (attached).



Francis





Professor Francis Gilbert

Division of Cells, Organisms & Genetics, School of Life Sciences, University of Nottingham

B132 Life Sciences Building, University Park, Nottingham NG7 2RD

Tel: 0115 951 3215

website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg



From: Syrphidae <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> On Behalf Of ximo mengual sanchis
Sent: 24 November 2023 13:01
To: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Syrphidae] A larva eating an imago



Dear all,



Check these images please, and let me know what you think:



https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/90016665



This behavior was previously described for a Neotropical species:

https://www.scielo.sa.cr/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0034-77442010000400009



Sure you have ideas about it.



Cheers,



Ximo



********************************************************
Dr. Ximo Mengual
Head of the Diptera Section
Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
Leibniz-Institut zur Analyse des Biodiversit?tswandels

Adenauerallee 127 ? 53113 Bonn, Germany



Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
ZFMK web<https://www.zfmk.de/en/zfmk/ximo-mengual>
<http://entomology.si.edu/StaffPages/MengualJ.html>

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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Sat Nov 25 17:59:45 2023
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2023 17:59:45 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Zweefvliegennieuwsbrief
Message-ID: <AS8PR06MB8214AFAC431B0557555A1DF0BEBFA@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Are all the issues of this on the web somewhere?
I cannot seem to find them.

Francis


Prof Francis Gilbert
B132 Life Science Building, University Park, University of Nottingham
Nottingham NG7 2RD
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From muscapaul at gmail.com  Sat Nov 25 18:37:14 2023
From: muscapaul at gmail.com (muscapaul)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:37:14 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Zweefvliegennieuwsbrief
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Message-ID: <CA+Gew0TmS6cL7qSTDcFhNszzSDWrYSVKtG=3nQHaoxxXXnAxag@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.syrphidaeintrees.com/jvs/volumes/

Op za 25 nov. 2023 19:00 schreef Francis Gilbert <
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>:

> Are all the issues of this on the web somewhere?
>
> I cannot seem to find them.
>
>
>
> Francis
>
>
>
>
>
> Prof Francis Gilbert
>
> B132 Life Science Building, University Park, University of Nottingham
>
> Nottingham NG7 2RD
>
> website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From muscapaul at gmail.com  Sat Nov 25 20:01:18 2023
From: muscapaul at gmail.com (muscapaul)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:01:18 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Zweefvliegennieuwsbrief
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References: <AS8PR06MB8214AFAC431B0557555A1DF0BEBFA@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
 <CA+Gew0TmS6cL7qSTDcFhNszzSDWrYSVKtG=3nQHaoxxXXnAxag@mail.gmail.com>
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https://www.eis-nederland.nl/werkgroepen/vliegen-en-muggen/zweefvliegen

Op za 25 nov. 2023 20:57 schreef Francis Gilbert <
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>:

> Sorry, but this is not the right journal !
>
> F
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* muscapaul <muscapaul at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 25, 2023 6:37 PM
> *To:* Francis Gilbert (staff) <plzfg at exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>; Hoverfly
> discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Syrphidae] Zweefvliegennieuwsbrief
>
>
>
> https://www.syrphidaeintrees.com/jvs/volumes/
>
>
>
> Op za 25 nov. 2023 19:00 schreef Francis Gilbert <
> Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>:
>
> Are all the issues of this on the web somewhere?
>
> I cannot seem to find them.
>
>
>
> Francis
>
>
>
>
>
> Prof Francis Gilbert
>
> B132 Life Science Building, University Park, University of Nottingham
>
> Nottingham NG7 2RD
>
> website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg
>
>
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