From torretta at agro.uba.ar  Tue Jun  1 13:29:24 2021
From: torretta at agro.uba.ar (Juan Pablo)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 09:29:24 -0300
Subject: [Syrphidae] paper pdf request
Message-ID: <CAFNA2QrmimfuxkYMEtYv_XdjhfK0JrRBDkqzhEBA-U+oEHEHpg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all

Does anyone have a pdf of the following paper?

Br?thes, J. 1937. Nuevas especies peruanas de flora y fauna. Bol. Mus.
Hist. Nat. "Javier Prado", 1: 1-16

Best regards,

Juan Pablo
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From kakojan112 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 07:47:12 2021
From: kakojan112 at gmail.com (Muhammad Asghar Hassan)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 14:47:12 +0800
Subject: [Syrphidae] Paper request: Classification of Xylotini (Diptera,
	Syrphidae)
Message-ID: <CAO91tTZ1y7Hp1ZN80NsPE5=S_ZyNtsoCvai9c9uWOgJQMd4OzQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear friends,
Does anyone have the pdf copy of "Classification of Xylotini (Diptera,
Syrphidae)"
By Hippa H.
Acta zoologica Fennica 156: 1-153, 1978.

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From muscapaul at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 08:06:17 2021
From: muscapaul at gmail.com (muscapaul)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 09:06:17 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Paper request: Classification of Xylotini (Diptera,
	Syrphidae)
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Large file, sent to Muhammad privately.

Paul

On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 at 08:47, Muhammad Asghar Hassan <kakojan112 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear friends,
> Does anyone have the pdf copy of "Classification of Xylotini (Diptera,
> Syrphidae)"
> By Hippa H.
> Acta zoologica Fennica 156: 1-153, 1978.
>
> Best regards
>
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From malin.thyselius at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 07:45:56 2021
From: malin.thyselius at gmail.com (Malin Thyselius)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 08:45:56 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Paper request
Message-ID: <C5B1721C-4804-4D7C-A38E-CBFE9A49F86B@gmail.com>

Hi, 

Does anyone have this paper?

Substalis, a new group of eristaline flower flies (Diptera: Syrphidae, Eristalinae)
By: F. CHRISTIAN THOMPSON

Page: 247?252


Kind regards
Malin Thyselius
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Jun 15 15:44:43 2021
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:44:43 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] FW: Kassebeer (1999)
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From: ANTONIO RAMON RICARTE SABATER [mailto:antonio.ricarte at mscloud.ua.es]
Sent: 15 June 2021 15:05
To: Syrphidae list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Kassebeer (1999)

Dear all,

Have you got the following paper in PDF to send me a copy, please?
Kassebeer, C.F. (1999) Zur Kenntnis einiger Gattungen der Chrysogasterini in Marokko (Diptera: Syrphidae). Beitr?ge zur
Schwebfliegenfauna Marokkos, IV. Entomologische Zeitschrift, 109, 155-164.

Thanks very much in advance.
Best regards,

Antonio R. Ricarte Sabater
Instituto de Investigaci?n CIBIO
Universidad de Alicante
03690 San Vicente del Raspeig (Alicante)
Tfno.: 965903400 ext. 9154
***
Antonio R. Ricarte Sabater
CIBIO Research Institute
University of Alicante
03690 San Vicente del Raspeig
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From andrevaneck at freedom.nl  Tue Jun 15 17:00:25 2021
From: andrevaneck at freedom.nl (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9_van_Eck?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 18:00:25 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: FW: Kassebeer (1999)
In-Reply-To: <AS8PR06MB82145BC038478FFC2FA87269BE309@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM0PR04MB464236F292E12DC905809639BF309@AM0PR04MB4642.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<AS8PR06MB82145BC038478FFC2FA87269BE309@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <61af8b846fd9bfd6bc9c2028c5f10a36@freedom.nl>

I do have a hard copy.
If nobody has a pdf, I could scan it tomorrow.

cheers, Andr?

Francis Gilbert schreef op 15-06-2021 16:44:

> From: ANTONIO RAMON RICARTE SABATER 
> [mailto:antonio.ricarte at mscloud.ua.es]
> Sent: 15 June 2021 15:05
> To: Syrphidae list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: Kassebeer (1999)
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Have you got the following paper in PDF to send me a copy, please?
> 
> Kassebeer, C.F. (1999) Zur Kenntnis einiger Gattungen der 
> Chrysogasterini in Marokko (Diptera: Syrphidae). Beitr?ge zur
> Schwebfliegenfauna Marokkos, IV. Entomologische Zeitschrift, 109, 
> 155-164.
> 
> Thanks very much in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Antonio R. Ricarte Sabater
> 
> Instituto de Investigaci?n CIBIO
> 
> Universidad de Alicante
> 
> 03690 San Vicente del Raspeig (Alicante)
> 
> Tfno.: 965903400 ext. 9154
> 
> ***
> 
> _Antonio R. Ricarte Sabater_
> 
> _CIBIO Research Institute_
> 
> _University of Alicante _
> 
> _03690 San Vicente del Raspeig _
> 
> _Alicante, Spain_
> 
> _Tel.: 965903400 ext. 9154_
> 
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From syrphidae at kevinmoran.com  Tue Jun 15 17:06:43 2021
From: syrphidae at kevinmoran.com (Kevin Moran)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:06:43 -0400
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: FW: Kassebeer (1999)
In-Reply-To: <AS8PR06MB82145BC038478FFC2FA87269BE309@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <AM0PR04MB464236F292E12DC905809639BF309@AM0PR04MB4642.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<AS8PR06MB82145BC038478FFC2FA87269BE309@AS8PR06MB8214.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CACb1TrsyBnqq1-jN68d8z5=sQt2Usarcps2f8TzukVA7xzRMNA@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a PDF copy of Kassebeer, C.F. (1999) Zur Kenntnis einiger Gattungen
der Chrysogasterini in Marokko (Diptera: Syrphidae). Beitr?ge zur
Schwebfliegenfauna Marokkos, IV. Entomologische Zeitschrift, 109,
155?164. as requested.

Best,
Kevin

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 10:44 AM Francis Gilbert <
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> *From:* ANTONIO RAMON RICARTE SABATER [mailto:
> antonio.ricarte at mscloud.ua.es]
> *Sent:* 15 June 2021 15:05
> *To:* Syrphidae list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Kassebeer (1999)
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Have you got the following paper in PDF to send me a copy, please?
>
> Kassebeer, C.F. (1999) Zur Kenntnis einiger Gattungen der Chrysogasterini
> in Marokko (Diptera: Syrphidae). Beitr?ge zur
> Schwebfliegenfauna Marokkos, IV. Entomologische Zeitschrift, 109, 155?164.
>
>
>
> Thanks very much in advance.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Antonio R. Ricarte Sabater
>
> Instituto de Investigaci?n CIBIO
>
> Universidad de Alicante
>
> 03690 San Vicente del Raspeig (Alicante)
>
> Tfno.: 965903400 ext. 9154
>
> ***
>
> *Antonio R. Ricarte Sabater*
>
> *CIBIO Research Institute*
>
> *University of Alicante *
>
> *03690 San Vicente del Raspeig *
>
> *Alicante, Spain*
>
> *Tel.: 965903400 ext. 9154*
>
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From gerard_pennards at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 15 20:53:14 2021
From: gerard_pennards at hotmail.com (Gerard Pennards)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 19:53:14 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8083.1623768284.7006.syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
References: <mailman.8083.1623768284.7006.syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
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Hai Antonio,
Here you are!
Kind regards,
Gerard

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From: ANTONIO RAMON RICARTE SABATER [mailto:antonio.ricarte at mscloud.ua.es]
Sent: 15 June 2021 15:05
To: Syrphidae list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Kassebeer (1999)

Dear all,

Have you got the following paper in PDF to send me a copy, please?
Kassebeer, C.F. (1999) Zur Kenntnis einiger Gattungen der Chrysogasterini in Marokko (Diptera: Syrphidae). Beitr?ge zur
Schwebfliegenfauna Marokkos, IV. Entomologische Zeitschrift, 109, 155-164.

Thanks very much in advance.
Best regards,

Antonio R. Ricarte Sabater
Instituto de Investigaci?n CIBIO
Universidad de Alicante
03690 San Vicente del Raspeig (Alicante)
Tfno.: 965903400 ext. 9154
***
Antonio R. Ricarte Sabater
CIBIO Research Institute
University of Alicante
03690 San Vicente del Raspeig
Alicante, Spain
Tel.: 965903400 ext. 9154
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From ante.vujic at dbe.uns.ac.rs  Mon Jun 21 13:30:54 2021
From: ante.vujic at dbe.uns.ac.rs (=?UTF-8?Q?Ante_Vuji=c4=87?=)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 14:30:54 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Novi Sad papers
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Dear all,

I would like to present the list of all our publications per years 
(attached). Papers with numbers (1-230) are available as PDF files. If 
you like to have some, please inform me. I will send it to you.

Best regards,

Ante

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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Mon Jun 21 13:47:26 2021
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 12:47:26 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Novi Sad papers
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just in case the attachment failed to come through
F

-----Original Message-----
From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ante Vujic
Sent: 21 June 2021 13:31
To: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Syrphidae] Novi Sad papers

Dear all,

I would like to present the list of all our publications per years 
(attached). Papers with numbers (1-230) are available as PDF files. If 
you like to have some, please inform me. I will send it to you.

Best regards,

Ante

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From kurt.jordaens at africamuseum.be  Mon Jun 21 19:16:31 2021
From: kurt.jordaens at africamuseum.be (Kurt Jordaens)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 18:16:31 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] ZooKeys: link to our paper on the revision of
	Afrotropical Mesembrius
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Dear all,

Herewith the link to our ZooKeys paper:  Revision of the Afrotropical species of the hover fly genus Mesembrius Rondani (Diptera, Syrphidae) using morphological and molecular data
Kurt Jordaens, Georg Goergen, Jeffrey H. Skevington, Scott Kelso, Marc De Meyer

https://zookeys.pensoft.net/article/57052/

Enjoy reading!

Cheers,
kurt

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From nobby.thys at scarlet.be  Mon Jun 21 19:27:28 2021
From: nobby.thys at scarlet.be (Nobby Scarlet)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 18:27:28 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] larva
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>Hello,

I found this larva in a running water in Limburg.
I have never seen a larve with a respiratory tube and different smallers 
kind of tubes near the base...

Does anyone recognize the species of genus ?

Greetings,
Nobby
>

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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Jun 22 08:36:56 2021
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 07:36:56 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: larva
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hi Nobby

The larva seems to  be an eristaline but we need a picture of the whole larva, really. The "smaller kind of tubes" are the extruded anal "gills" that are usually held within the rectum, and are almost certainly involved in active ionic exchanges. If we could see them all, together with any lappets at the end of the body (base of the 'tail') and the anterior spiracles clearly (they are there but very out of focus) then we might stand a chance of identifying it.

Best wishes

Francis


From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nobby Scarlet
Sent: 21 June 2021 19:27
To: hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Syrphidae] larva


Hello,

I found this larva in a running water in Limburg.
I have never seen a larve with a respiratory tube and different smallers kind of tubes near the base...

Does anyone recognize the species of genus ?

Greetings,
Nobby




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From nobby.thys at scarlet.be  Tue Jun 22 11:27:51 2021
From: nobby.thys at scarlet.be (Nobby Scarlet)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 10:27:51 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: larva
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Hello Francis,

In attachment some more pictures but i have a hard time taking good 
pictures...

Maybe these help and off course i understand if further determination is 
not possible by  means of pictures.

I was surprised by the extruded anal gills and did not see this in any 
picture of hoverfly larvae and learned a lot thanks to the reply of 
members of this list!

Thank you !
Nobby

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Van: "Francis Gilbert" <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>
Aan: "Nobby Scarlet" <nobby.thys at scarlet.be>; "hoverfly discussion list" 
<syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Verzonden: 22-6-2021 09:36:56
Onderwerp: RE: [Syrphidae] larva

>hi Nobby
>
>
>
>The larva seems to  be an eristaline but we need a picture of the whole 
>larva, really. The "smaller kind of tubes" are the extruded anal 
>"gills" that are usually held within the rectum, and are almost 
>certainly involved in active ionic exchanges. If we could see them all, 
>together with any lappets at the end of the body (base of the 'tail') 
>and the anterior spiracles clearly (they are there but very out of 
>focus) then we might stand a chance of identifying it.
>
>
>
>Best wishes
>
>
>
>Francis
>
>
>
>
>
>From:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
>[mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nobby 
>Scarlet
>Sent: 21 June 2021 19:27
>To: hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>Subject: [Syrphidae] larva
>
>
>
>>Hello,
>
>
>I found this larva in a running water in Limburg.
>
>I have never seen a larve with a respiratory tube and different 
>smallers kind of tubes near the base...
>
>
>
>Does anyone recognize the species of genus ?
>
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>Nobby
>
>
>>
>
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From nobby.thys at scarlet.be  Tue Jun 22 17:10:43 2021
From: nobby.thys at scarlet.be (Nobby Scarlet)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 16:10:43 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] rhagionidae
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Hello,

Here another aquatic diptera larva with some remarcable spots but i am 
not aware that there is a key to find out more about what species this 
could be...

Greetings,
Nobby

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From cyrille.dussaix at orange.fr  Thu Jun 24 14:50:04 2021
From: cyrille.dussaix at orange.fr (Cyrille DUSSAIX)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 15:50:04 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: larva
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Hi,
First, where was the larva found?
Maybe, Pocota personata?
See attached document (description) and this website for various 
illustrations : 
http://cyrille.dussaix.pagesperso-orange.fr/_SYRPHIDAE_LARVA_DC2020/_Index.html
Thank of your opinion after control.
Greetings.
Cyrille.

Le 22/06/2021 ? 12:27, Nobby Scarlet a ?crit?:
> Hello Francis,
>
> In attachment some more pictures but i have a hard time taking good 
> pictures...
>
> Maybe these help and off course i understand if further determination 
> is not possible by? means of pictures.
>
> I was surprised by the extruded anal gills and did not see this in any 
> picture of hoverfly larvae and learned a lot thanks to the reply of 
> members of this list!
>
> Thank you !
> Nobby
>
> ------ Origineel bericht ------
> Van: "Francis Gilbert" <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> Aan: "Nobby Scarlet" <nobby.thys at scarlet.be 
> <mailto:nobby.thys at scarlet.be>>; "hoverfly discussion list" 
> <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
> Verzonden: 22-6-2021 09:36:56
> Onderwerp: RE: [Syrphidae] larva
>
>> hi Nobby
>>
>> The larva seems tobe an eristaline but we need a picture of the whole 
>> larva, really. The "smaller kind of tubes" are the extruded anal 
>> "gills" that are usually held within the rectum, and are almost 
>> certainly involved in active ionic exchanges. If we could see them 
>> all, together with any lappets at the end of the body (base of the 
>> 'tail') and the anterior spiracles clearly (they are there but very 
>> out of focus) then we might stand a chance of identifying it.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Francis
>>
>> *From:*syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
>> <mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
>> [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
>> <mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Nobby Scarlet
>> *Sent:* 21 June 2021 19:27
>> *To:* hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
>> <mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] larva
>>
>>     Hello,
>>
>> I found this larva in a running water in Limburg.
>>
>> I have never seen a larve with a respiratory tube and different 
>> smallers kind of tubes near the base...
>>
>> Does anyone recognize the species of genus ?
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Nobby
>>
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From nobby.thys at scarlet.be  Thu Jun 24 16:32:14 2021
From: nobby.thys at scarlet.be (Nobby Scarlet)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 15:32:14 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: larva
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Hello Cyrille,

Thank you for this information! It's an impressive website.

The larva comes from a running water but it runs slowly so had some 
rather standing water species (of water beetles) also.

It does not fit Pocota but i'm also nog sure what species it does 
fits...

Greetings,
Nobby

------ Origineel bericht ------
Van: "Cyrille DUSSAIX" <cyrille.dussaix at orange.fr>
Aan: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Verzonden: 24-6-2021 15:50:04
Onderwerp: [Syrphidae] Re: larva

>Hi,
>First, where was the larva found?
>Maybe, Pocota personata?
>See attached document (description) and this website for various 
>illustrations : 
>http://cyrille.dussaix.pagesperso-orange.fr/_SYRPHIDAE_LARVA_DC2020/_Index.html
>Thank of your opinion after control.
>Greetings.
>Cyrille.
>
>Le 22/06/2021 ? 12:27, Nobby Scarlet a ?crit :
>>Hello Francis,
>>
>>In attachment some more pictures but i have a hard time taking good 
>>pictures...
>>
>>Maybe these help and off course i understand if further determination 
>>is not possible by  means of pictures.
>>
>>I was surprised by the extruded anal gills and did not see this in any 
>>picture of hoverfly larvae and learned a lot thanks to the reply of 
>>members of this list!
>>
>>Thank you !
>>Nobby
>>
>>------ Origineel bericht ------
>>Van: "Francis Gilbert" <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>Aan: "Nobby Scarlet" <nobby.thys at scarlet.be>; "hoverfly discussion 
>>list" <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>Verzonden: 22-6-2021 09:36:56
>>Onderwerp: RE: [Syrphidae] larva
>>
>>>hi Nobby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The larva seems to  be an eristaline but we need a picture of the 
>>>whole larva, really. The "smaller kind of tubes" are the extruded 
>>>anal "gills" that are usually held within the rectum, and are almost 
>>>certainly involved in active ionic exchanges. If we could see them 
>>>all, together with any lappets at the end of the body (base of the 
>>>'tail') and the anterior spiracles clearly (they are there but very 
>>>out of focus) then we might stand a chance of identifying it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Best wishes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Francis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
>>>[mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nobby 
>>>Scarlet
>>>Sent: 21 June 2021 19:27
>>>To: hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>Subject: [Syrphidae] larva
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>I found this larva in a running water in Limburg.
>>>
>>>I have never seen a larve with a respiratory tube and different 
>>>smallers kind of tubes near the base...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Does anyone recognize the species of genus ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>Nobby
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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From valerimutin at mail.ru  Sat Jun 26 01:12:06 2021
From: valerimutin at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?TXV0aW4gVmFsZXJp?=)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 03:12:06 +0300
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: =?utf-8?q?larva?=
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Dear Nobby,
?
Probably, this larvae with anal papillae is a?species from genus  Mesaxymyia (Axymyiidae).?
?
Best wishes,
Valery
?
?
? 
>???????, 22 ???? 2021, 20:41 +10:00 ?? Nobby Scarlet <nobby.thys at scarlet.be>:
>?
>Hello Francis,
>?
>In attachment some more pictures but i have a hard time taking good pictures...
>?
>Maybe these help and off course i understand if further determination is not possible by? means of pictures.
>?
>I was surprised by the extruded anal gills and did not see this in any picture of hoverfly larvae and learned a lot thanks to the reply of members of this list!
>?
>Thank you !
>Nobby
>?
>------ Origineel bericht ------
>Van: "Francis Gilbert" < Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk >
>Aan: "Nobby Scarlet" < nobby.thys at scarlet.be >; "hoverfly discussion list" < syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >
>Verzonden: 22-6-2021 09:36:56
>Onderwerp: RE: [Syrphidae] larva
>?
>>hi Nobby
>>?
>>The larva seems to ?  be an eristaline but we need a picture of the whole larva, really. The "smaller kind of tubes" are the extruded anal "gills" that are usually held within the rectum, and are almost certainly involved in active ionic exchanges. If we could see them all, together with any lappets at the end of the body (base of the 'tail') and the anterior spiracles clearly (they are there but very out of focus) then we might stand a chance of identifying it.
>>?
>>Best wishes
>>?
>>Francis
>>?
>>?
>>From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk ]  On Behalf Of  Nobby Scarlet
>>Sent: 21 June 2021 19:27
>>To: hoverfly discussion list < syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >
>>Subject: [Syrphidae] larva
>>?
>>>Hello,
>>?
>>I found this larva in a running water in Limburg.
>>I have never seen a larve with a respiratory tube and different smallers kind of tubes near the base...
>>?
>>Does anyone recognize the species of genus ?
>>?
>>Greetings,
>>Nobby
>>?
>>>?
>>?
>>Virusvrij.  www.avast.com
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