[Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 169, Issue 1

[Andre van Eck]

How nice would it be when the European Red List of Hoverflies will have all the correctly spelled names in use. 

cheers, happy 2021! 
André



>     Op 04-01-2021 13:54 schreef Menno Reemer <m_reemer at hotmail.com>:
> 
> 
>     Two more examples to illustrate Libor's argument: 
>     Cheilosia himantopus ('strap foot') -> sometimes erroneously named 'himantopa'. 
>     Sphaerophoria philanthus ('flower lover') -> sometimes erroneously named 'philantha'. 
>     In both cases (as well as in Libor's example of Parasyrphus lineola) the specific epithets are nouns in apposition, which implicates that their suffix is not to be conjugated. 
>     So, in order to do such things correctly, you need to know the grammatical nature of the species name...
>     (BTW: I am not at all an expert in these matters, but these are just some examples I happen to know.)
>     Best wishes,
>     Menno
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>     Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 169, Issue 1
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>     Dear Bastiaan,
>     the rule for suffix of latin species names is not so clear. Sometimes also species name is noun with their own gender.
>     So It is not possible to use gender of generic name, for example see my commetns below.
>     However Musca generic name is femininum as the generic name Leucozona, so Musca laternatia is correct.
> 
>     With best wishes Libor
> 
> 
>     For exampel here is my comments to Parasyrphus lineola name:
>     The Latin name of this species is often erroneously cited as “Parasyrphus lineolus” in recent literature also in Speight (2018). But Latin word "lineola" is a Latin noun that means "a little line". This Latin noun has its own feminine gender according to Latin grammar. So it is not possible to use this Latin feminine noun with masculine suffix as it is used for adjectives.
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>       1. genera gender list and database storage (Bastiaan)
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>     Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2021 14:59:44 +0100
>     From: Bastiaan <bwakkie at syrphidae.com>
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>     Subject: [Syrphidae] genera gender list and database storage
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>     Hi all,
> 
>     Happy new year (for whom it may concern ;-)
> 
>     A new years question:
> 
>     I am looking for a list of all genera with there gender. Or is there a
>     general rule I can interpret it from the genus name?
> 
>     I like to keep only protonym (original combination) intact plus the +
>     specific name without the gender part in the database so I never have to
>     change it again. Then I will link them to their current accepted parent.
>     Based of the parent 'genus' name gender I can create the current
>     accepted name.
> 
>     I guess from what I understood so far is that the subgenus name does not
>     effect the specific name? Like in Leucozona laternaria?
> 
>     As example where the specific_name changes:
> 
>     Musca fasciolata  --> Chrysotoxum fasciolatum
>     Musca laternarius --> Leucozona (Ischyrosyrphus) laternaria
> 
>     In Systema Dipterorum for example all of the four above mentioned names
>     are stored. (and this on their turn slipped down into different websites
>     gbif inaturalist etc.)
> 
>     Any thoughts on this?
> 
>     Cheers,
>     Bastiaan
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