From martenschantal at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  8 17:47:15 2020
From: martenschantal at yahoo.com (Chantal Martens)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 16:47:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Syrphidae] papers about migration
References: <1887935813.3491823.1599583635653.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1887935813.3491823.1599583635653@mail.yahoo.com>

Dear all,
I'm looking for these papers:
-?Aubert J., Aubert J.-J. & GoeldlinP., 1976. - Douze ans de captures syst?matiques de Syrphides(Dipt?res) au col de Bretolet (Alps Valaisannes). Mitteilungen der schweizerischen Entomologischen Gesellschaft 49: 115-142
-?Lack D. & Lack E., 1951. Migrationof insects and birds through the Pyrenees. Journalof Animal Ecology 20: pp. 63-67
-?Snow D.W. & Ross K.F.A., 1952.? Insect migration in the Pyrenees. Entomologist?s monthly Magazine 88: pp. 1-6

Can someone help me?Thanks in advance.
Best wishes,Chantal Martens
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Tue Sep  8 17:58:24 2020
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 16:58:24 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: papers about migration
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only my notes for two of them, but Snow & Ross should be on the Biodiversity Library.

Francis


From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Chantal Martens
Sent: 08 September 2020 17:47
To: Hoverfly Discussion List <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Syrphidae] papers about migration

Dear all,

I'm looking for these papers:

- Aubert J., Aubert J.-J. & Goeldlin P., 1976. - Douze ans de captures syst?matiques de Syrphides (Dipt?res) au col de Bretolet (Alps Valaisannes). Mitteilungen der schweizerischen Entomologischen Gesellschaft 49: 115-142

- Lack D. & Lack E., 1951. Migration of insects and birds through the Pyrenees. Journal of Animal Ecology 20: pp. 63-67

- Snow D.W. & Ross K.F.A., 1952. ? Insect migration in the Pyrenees. Entomologist?s monthly Magazine 88: pp. 1-6


Can someone help me?
Thanks in advance.

Best wishes,
Chantal Martens
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From gabriel.neve at imbe.fr  Wed Sep  9 07:45:36 2020
From: gabriel.neve at imbe.fr (Gabriel Neve)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 08:45:36 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] papers about migration
In-Reply-To: <mailman.109932.1599584312.31846.syrphidae@lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
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Hi Chantal,

On syrphid migration, there is also the later 1981 paper by Aubert and 
Goeldlin :

Aubert, J., Goeldlin de Tiefenau, 1981. Observations sur les migrations 
de Syrphides (Dipt.) dans les Alpes de Suisse occidentale. Mitteilungen 
der Schweizerischen Entomologischen Gesellschaft/Bulletin de la Soci?t? 
Entomologique Suisse 54, 377?388.

Best wishes,

Gabriel

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From muscapaul at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 07:40:37 2020
From: muscapaul at gmail.com (muscapaul)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 08:40:37 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: papers about migration
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A better copy of Aubert et al. (downloadable from the Swiss library) and a
copy of Lack & Lack. The 1952 volume of Entomologist's monthly Magazine is
not online and I do not have the paper.

Cheers,

Paul

On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 18:58, Francis Gilbert <
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> only my notes for two of them, but Snow & Ross should be on the
> Biodiversity Library.
>
>
>
> Francis
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Chantal Martens
> *Sent:* 08 September 2020 17:47
> *To:* Hoverfly Discussion List <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] papers about migration
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> I'm looking for these papers:
>
>
>
> - Aubert J., Aubert J.-J. & Goeldlin P., 1976. - Douze ans de captures
> syst?matiques de Syrphides (Dipt?res) au col de Bretolet (Alps Valaisannes).*
> Mitteilungen der schweizerischen Entomologischen Gesellschaft* 49: 115-142
>
>
>
> - Lack D. & Lack E., 1951. Migration of insects and birds through the
> Pyrenees. *Journal of Animal Ecology *20: pp. 63-67
>
>
>
> - Snow D.W. & Ross K.F.A., 1952. ? Insect migration in the Pyrenees.*
> Entomologist?s monthly Magazine* 88: pp. 1-6
>
>
>
>
>
> Can someone help me?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Chantal Martens
>
> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee
> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this
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> attachment.
>
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Wed Sep  9 10:07:59 2020
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 09:07:59 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] sad news
Message-ID: <DB8PR06MB62494B12BAF50D1A55126A0CBE260@DB8PR06MB6249.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Dear friends & colleagues

Some sad news from Russia via Gunilla:



Sergei Yu. Kuznetzov 1956-2020
Sergei Yu. Kuznetzov died in hospital in St Petersburg on August, 14, 2020 after being ill for some time. He was born 24 August 1956 in Smogon, Belarus. He went to school in Latvia, and graduated from University of Latvia. He published important studies on the pre-imaginal stages of hoverflies, and taxonomic papers on Syrphidae and Pipunculidae. Since 1990 he worked at the Zoological Institute in St. Petersburg, Russia. In 1990 he established and was the editor-in-chief of the International Journal of Dipterological Research.


Francis

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From grigory.v.popov at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 10:15:32 2020
From: grigory.v.popov at gmail.com (Grigory Popov)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 12:15:32 +0300
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: sad news
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Very sad news, my condolences :( I met and talked to him in the 1990-2000s
Grigory.

??, 9 ???. 2020, 12:08 ?????????? Francis Gilbert <
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk> ????:

> Dear friends & colleagues
>
> Some sad news from Russia via Gunilla:
>
>
>
> Sergei Yu. Kuznetzov 1956-2020
>
> Sergei Yu. Kuznetzov died in hospital in St Petersburg on August, 14, 2020
> after being ill for some time. He was born 24 August 1956 in Smogon,
> Belarus. He went to school in Latvia, and graduated from University of
> Latvia. He published important studies on the pre-imaginal stages of
> hoverflies, and taxonomic papers on Syrphidae and Pipunculidae. Since 1990
> he worked at the Zoological Institute in St. Petersburg, Russia. In 1990 he
> established and was the editor-in-chief of the International Journal of
> Dipterological Research.
>
>
>
>
>
> Francis
>
>
>
>
> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee
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From xmengual at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 11:45:27 2020
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 12:45:27 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: papers about migration
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Attached Snow and Ross (1952) <http://syrphidae.myspecies.info/>

Ximo

El mar., 8 sept. 2020 a las 18:58, Francis Gilbert (<
Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk>) escribi?:

> only my notes for two of them, but Snow & Ross should be on the
> Biodiversity Library.
>
>
>
> Francis
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Chantal Martens
> *Sent:* 08 September 2020 17:47
> *To:* Hoverfly Discussion List <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] papers about migration
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> I'm looking for these papers:
>
>
>
> - Aubert J., Aubert J.-J. & Goeldlin P., 1976. - Douze ans de captures
> syst?matiques de Syrphides (Dipt?res) au col de Bretolet (Alps Valaisannes).*
> Mitteilungen der schweizerischen Entomologischen Gesellschaft* 49: 115-142
>
>
>
> - Lack D. & Lack E., 1951. Migration of insects and birds through the
> Pyrenees. *Journal of Animal Ecology *20: pp. 63-67
>
>
>
> - Snow D.W. & Ross K.F.A., 1952. ? Insect migration in the Pyrenees.*
> Entomologist?s monthly Magazine* 88: pp. 1-6
>
>
>
>
>
> Can someone help me?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Chantal Martens
>
> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee
> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this
> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and
> attachment.
>
> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not
> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email
> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored
> where permitted by law.
>
>
>
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From xmengual at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 13:11:06 2020
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 14:11:06 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: paper request
In-Reply-To: <1597383464.57340647@f514.i.mail.ru>
References: <686457113.44312.1594845180112@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl>
	<1597383464.57340647@f514.i.mail.ru>
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Hi Valery,

here the requested pdf.

Cheers,

Ximo




El vie., 14 ago. 2020 a las 7:37, Mutin Valeri (<valerimutin at mail.ru>)
escribi?:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Could any of you send me the following paper.
>
> Sack P. Syrphidae. In: Schwedisch-chinesische wissenschaftliche Expeditio
> nach den nordwestkichen Provinzen Chinas, unter
> Leitung von Dr. Sven  ... // Ark. Zool., 26A(1) 6:1-9.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Thank you,
>
> Valery
>
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From eckvana at xs4all.nl  Wed Sep  9 13:31:27 2020
From: eckvana at xs4all.nl (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9_van_Eck?=)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 14:31:27 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: paper request
In-Reply-To: <CALZXNEt+GY=csBbHK=wORSg0WpGMh_qP5d74CffzY5Q=Mf5hsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <686457113.44312.1594845180112@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl>
	<1597383464.57340647@f514.i.mail.ru>
	<CALZXNEt+GY=csBbHK=wORSg0WpGMh_qP5d74CffzY5Q=Mf5hsA@mail.gmail.com>
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Strange, how I don't seem to receive the requests themselves! 
Every now and then yes, but at least as many times not.  

Can this be solved? 

cheers, Andr?
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From stefanpruner at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 19:50:35 2020
From: stefanpruner at gmail.com (Stefan Pruner)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 20:50:35 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: paper request
In-Reply-To: <39a3d20a1cb0ad6dc9283f4377b6a30e@xs4all.nl>
References: <686457113.44312.1594845180112@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl>
	<1597383464.57340647@f514.i.mail.ru>
	<CALZXNEt+GY=csBbHK=wORSg0WpGMh_qP5d74CffzY5Q=Mf5hsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<39a3d20a1cb0ad6dc9283f4377b6a30e@xs4all.nl>
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Hello!

Almost the same here. I get most requests, but not all of them.

Stefan

Andr? van Eck <eckvana at xs4all.nl> schrieb am Mi., 9. Sep. 2020, 14:31:

>
> Strange, how I don't seem to receive the requests themselves!
> Every now and then yes, but at least as many times not.
>
> Can this be solved?
>
> cheers, Andr?
>
>
>
> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee
> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this
> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and
> attachment.
>
> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not
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From martenschantal at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 10 10:32:25 2020
From: martenschantal at yahoo.com (Chantal Martens)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 09:32:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Syrphidae] publication request
References: <673209725.581870.1599730345501.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <673209725.581870.1599730345501@mail.yahoo.com>


Dear all,

?

I'm looking for this manuscript:
-?Gatter W. & Schmid U.,1990. ? Wanderungen der schwebfliegen (Diptera: Syrphidae) am Randecker Maar. Spixiana supplement 15: 1-100?
Can someone help me?

Thanks in advance.

?

Best wishes,

Chantal Martens

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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Thu Sep 10 10:36:19 2020
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 09:36:19 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: publication request
In-Reply-To: <673209725.581870.1599730345501@mail.yahoo.com>
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	<673209725.581870.1599730345501@mail.yahoo.com>
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here you are
F

From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Chantal Martens
Sent: 10 September 2020 10:32
To: Hoverfly Discussion List <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Syrphidae] publication request


Dear all,



I'm looking for this manuscript:
- Gatter W. & Schmid U., 1990. ? Wanderungen der schwebfliegen (Diptera: Syrphidae) am Randecker Maar. Spixiana supplement 15: 1-100


Can someone help me?

Thanks in advance.



Best wishes,

Chantal Martens

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From xmengual at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 07:12:04 2020
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 08:12:04 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
Message-ID: <CALZXNEs+GF5qMFyKPiTKgJNdZ22t2tE6e0uY0q=xjtmsi0U=UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience, I
would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the
same locality.

I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and philantha.
Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?

I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it the
same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?

Cheers,

Ximo
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From botsander at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 11:15:28 2020
From: botsander at gmail.com (Sander Bot)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 12:15:28 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Paper request
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Hi all,

Does anybody maybe have:
Bradescu, V. 1977. Deux especes nouvelles du genre Cheilosia Meigen
(Diptera, Syrphidae). Revue roum. Biol. Anim. 22(1):  11-14.

Many thanks in advance,

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From kjordaens2 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 11:27:08 2020
From: kjordaens2 at gmail.com (Kurt Jordaens)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 12:27:08 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Paper request
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here it is.

cheers,
kurt

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> Hi all,
>
> Does anybody maybe have:
> Bradescu, V. 1977. Deux especes nouvelles du genre Cheilosia Meigen
> (Diptera, Syrphidae). Revue roum. Biol. Anim. 22(1):  11-14.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
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> Sander
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From eckvana at xs4all.nl  Sun Sep 13 13:45:10 2020
From: eckvana at xs4all.nl (=?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9_van_Eck?=)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:45:10 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: sad news
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Indeed, very sad news. I hope, anyone who knew him very well, will write
his biography?   

Last couple of years he already did not really reply to emails and also
ZIN lost contact with him for quite a long time. Untill, suddenly,
Kuznetzov moved his full collection to the ZIN, last year. The
collection includes many type specimens, but some of those are still
missing.  

Would anyone know where the holotype of _Pelecocera persiana_ Kuznetzov,
1989 is at present, I would be very grateful to be informed!

Andr? 

Francis Gilbert schreef op 09-09-2020 11:07:

> Dear friends & colleagues 
> 
> Some sad news from Russia via Gunilla: 
> 
> Sergei Yu. Kuznetzov 1956-2020  
> 
> Sergei Yu. Kuznetzov died in hospital in St Petersburg on August, 14, 2020 after being ill for some time. He was born 24 August 1956 in Smogon, Belarus. He went to school in Latvia, and graduated from University of Latvia. He published important studies on the pre-imaginal stages of hoverflies, and taxonomic papers on Syrphidae and Pipunculidae. Since 1990 he worked at the Zoological Institute in St. Petersburg, Russia. In 1990 he established and was the editor-in-chief of the International Journal of Dipterological Research.  
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From jayitasengupta9 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 17:07:00 2020
From: jayitasengupta9 at gmail.com (JAYITA SENGUPTA)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 21:37:00 +0530
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: sad news
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My condolensce to his family and friends, may his soul rest in peace

Sent from my iPhone

> On 09-Sep-2020, at 2:37 PM, Francis Gilbert <Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Dear friends & colleagues
> 
> Some sad news from Russia via Gunilla:
> 
>  
> 
> Sergei Yu. Kuznetzov 1956-2020 
> 
> Sergei Yu. Kuznetzov died in hospital in St Petersburg on August, 14, 2020 after being ill for some time. He was born 24 August 1956 in Smogon, Belarus. He went to school in Latvia, and graduated from University of Latvia. He published important studies on the pre-imaginal stages of hoverflies, and taxonomic papers on Syrphidae and Pipunculidae. Since 1990 he worked at the Zoological Institute in St. Petersburg, Russia. In 1990 he established and was the editor-in-chief of the International Journal of Dipterological Research. 
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From robert at insects.pl  Sun Sep 13 17:21:45 2020
From: robert at insects.pl (=?UTF-8?B?Um9iZXJ0IMW7w7NyYWxza2k=?=)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 18:21:45 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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In Poland S. virgata is forest species, and rare. S. scripta is present on
all possible types of meadows incl. ruderal areas, being sympatric with S.
taeniata  and S. batava on e.g. forest glades and "good open areas",
especially on coasts an along rivers - many times I gathered longer series
of all three. S.philantha is extremely rare. S.interrupta is very rare.

niedz., 13 wrz 2020, 08:12 u?ytkownik ximo mengual sanchis <
xmengual at gmail.com> napisa?:

> Dear all,
>
> I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience, I
> would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the
> same locality.
>
> I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and
> philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?
>
> I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it the
> same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ximo
>
>
>
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From m_reemer at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 13 18:20:42 2020
From: m_reemer at hotmail.com (Menno Reemer)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 17:20:42 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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In the Netherlands,  every Sphaerophoria species has its own habitat requirements, but some can be found in the same areas. For details, you could consult the species accounts in the book De Nederlandse zweefvliegen:
https://www.bestuivers.nl/publicaties/de-nederlandse-zweefvliegen
See chapter 10 pp. 311-318 for Sphaerophoria. These species accounts are based on the collective field experiences of many Dutch syrphidologists. They all have English summaries!
Also see appendix 6, which arranges all the species according to the habitats in which they occur.
Best wishes,
Menno



________________________________
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Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:21 PM
To: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>
Cc: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria

In Poland S. virgata is forest species, and rare. S. scripta is present on all possible types of meadows incl. ruderal areas, being sympatric with S. taeniata  and S. batava on e.g. forest glades and "good open areas", especially on coasts an along rivers - many times I gathered longer series of all three. S.philantha is extremely rare. S.interrupta is very rare.

niedz., 13 wrz 2020, 08:12 u?ytkownik ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com<mailto:xmengual at gmail.com>> napisa?:
Dear all,

I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience, I would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the same locality.

I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?

I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it the same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?

Cheers,

Ximo

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From syrphid58 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 19:13:34 2020
From: syrphid58 at gmail.com (Roger Morris)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 19:13:34 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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In the UK there is quite strong regional differentiation, with S. 
philantha and fatarum being strongly northern and western but also found 
in heathlands in southern England. S. potentillae is confined to Culm 
grassland in the SW. S. taeniata and S. batava are differentiated on 
habitat with S. taeniata more closely associated with grasslands and S. 
batava with ericaceous scrub. There are few records of S. virgata but 
this too seems to be a heathland species. There remains a question mark 
for S. interrupta but my feeling is that it is more a northern and 
western species. No idea for S. bankowski!

Regards

Roger

On 13/09/2020 18:20, Menno Reemer wrote:
> In the Netherlands,? every Sphaerophoria species has its own habitat 
> requirements, but some can be found in the same areas. For details, 
> you could consult the species accounts in the book /De Nederlandse 
> zweefvliegen/:
> https://www.bestuivers.nl/publicaties/de-nederlandse-zweefvliegen
> See chapter 10 pp. 311-318 for Sphaerophoria. These species accounts 
> are based on the collective field experiences of many Dutch 
> syrphidologists._They all have English summaries!_
> Also see appendix 6, which arranges all the species according to the 
> habitats in which they occur.
> Best wishes,
> Menno
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> on behalf of Robert 
> ??ralski <robert at insects.pl>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:21 PM
> *To:* ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
> In Poland S. virgata is forest species, and rare. S. scripta is 
> present on all possible types of meadows incl. ruderal areas, being 
> sympatric with S. taeniata? and S. batava on e.g. forest glades and 
> "good open areas", especially on coasts an along rivers - many times I 
> gathered longer series of all three. S.philantha is extremely rare. 
> S.interrupta is very rare.
>
> niedz., 13 wrz 2020, 08:12 u?ytkownik ximo mengual sanchis 
> <xmengual at gmail.com <mailto:xmengual at gmail.com>> napisa?:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field
>     experience, I would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria
>     species occur in the same locality.
>
>     I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and
>     philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?
>
>     I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example.
>     Is it the same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Ximo
>
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Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 165, Issue 8
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From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 10:13:21 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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Many thanks Roger!

Very interesting information. Somehow, each species has different
ecological requirements, but one can collect 2 or 3 species in the same
locality.

Regards,

Ximo




El dom., 13 sept. 2020 a las 20:13, Roger Morris (<syrphid58 at gmail.com>)
escribi?:

> In the UK there is quite strong regional differentiation, with S.
> philantha and fatarum being strongly northern and western but also found in
> heathlands in southern England. S. potentillae is confined to Culm
> grassland in the SW. S. taeniata and S. batava are differentiated on
> habitat with S. taeniata more closely associated with grasslands and S.
> batava with ericaceous scrub. There are few records of S. virgata but this
> too seems to be a heathland species. There remains a question mark for S.
> interrupta but my feeling is that it is more a northern and western
> species. No idea for S. bankowski!
>
> Regards
>
> Roger
>
> On 13/09/2020 18:20, Menno Reemer wrote:
>
> In the Netherlands,  every Sphaerophoria species has its own habitat
> requirements, but some can be found in the same areas. For details, you
> could consult the species accounts in the book *De Nederlandse
> zweefvliegen*:
> https://www.bestuivers.nl/publicaties/de-nederlandse-zweefvliegen
> See chapter 10 pp. 311-318 for Sphaerophoria. These species accounts are
> based on the collective field experiences of many Dutch syrphidologists.*
> They all have English summaries!*
> Also see appendix 6, which arranges all the species according to the
> habitats in which they occur.
> Best wishes,
> Menno
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> on behalf of Robert ??ralski
> <robert at insects.pl> <robert at insects.pl>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:21 PM
> *To:* ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com> <xmengual at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
>
> In Poland S. virgata is forest species, and rare. S. scripta is present on
> all possible types of meadows incl. ruderal areas, being sympatric with S.
> taeniata  and S. batava on e.g. forest glades and "good open areas",
> especially on coasts an along rivers - many times I gathered longer series
> of all three. S.philantha is extremely rare. S.interrupta is very rare.
>
> niedz., 13 wrz 2020, 08:12 u?ytkownik ximo mengual sanchis <
> xmengual at gmail.com> napisa?:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience, I
> would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the
> same locality.
>
> I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and
> philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?
>
> I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it the
> same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ximo
>
> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee
> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this
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> attachment.
>
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>
>
>
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From j.van.steenis at xmsnet.nl  Mon Sep 14 09:48:15 2020
From: j.van.steenis at xmsnet.nl (Jeroen van Steenis)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 10:48:15 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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Dear Ximo

In Sweden the species are often sympatric with up to 5 species flying
together at the same day in one place.
I can give you a brief overview of the species found together if you like.
I think all species fly with other species, except possibly S. loewi.
I have abbreviata, bankowskae, batava, chongjini, fatarum, laurae,
ruepelli, interrupta, philanthus, taeniata, virgata and scripta all flying
together with several other species, but none of them with all others.

Best wishes,

Jeroen

Op ma 14 sep. 2020 om 10:13 schreef ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com
>:

> Many thanks Roger!
>
> Very interesting information. Somehow, each species has different
> ecological requirements, but one can collect 2 or 3 species in the same
> locality.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ximo
>
>
>
>
> El dom., 13 sept. 2020 a las 20:13, Roger Morris (<syrphid58 at gmail.com>)
> escribi?:
>
>> In the UK there is quite strong regional differentiation, with S.
>> philantha and fatarum being strongly northern and western but also found in
>> heathlands in southern England. S. potentillae is confined to Culm
>> grassland in the SW. S. taeniata and S. batava are differentiated on
>> habitat with S. taeniata more closely associated with grasslands and S.
>> batava with ericaceous scrub. There are few records of S. virgata but this
>> too seems to be a heathland species. There remains a question mark for S.
>> interrupta but my feeling is that it is more a northern and western
>> species. No idea for S. bankowski!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> On 13/09/2020 18:20, Menno Reemer wrote:
>>
>> In the Netherlands,  every Sphaerophoria species has its own habitat
>> requirements, but some can be found in the same areas. For details, you
>> could consult the species accounts in the book *De Nederlandse
>> zweefvliegen*:
>> https://www.bestuivers.nl/publicaties/de-nederlandse-zweefvliegen
>> See chapter 10 pp. 311-318 for Sphaerophoria. These species accounts are
>> based on the collective field experiences of many Dutch syrphidologists.*
>> They all have English summaries!*
>> Also see appendix 6, which arranges all the species according to the
>> habitats in which they occur.
>> Best wishes,
>> Menno
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
>>
>> In Poland S. virgata is forest species, and rare. S. scripta is present
>> on all possible types of meadows incl. ruderal areas, being sympatric with
>> S. taeniata  and S. batava on e.g. forest glades and "good open areas",
>> especially on coasts an along rivers - many times I gathered longer series
>> of all three. S.philantha is extremely rare. S.interrupta is very rare.
>>
>> niedz., 13 wrz 2020, 08:12 u?ytkownik ximo mengual sanchis <
>> xmengual at gmail.com> napisa?:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience,
>> I would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the
>> same locality.
>>
>> I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and
>> philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?
>>
>> I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it
>> the same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ximo
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From syrphid58 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 09:54:39 2020
From: syrphid58 at gmail.com (Roger Morris)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:54:39 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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I am not surprised by the numbers of species found together - the 
ecological separation may be both the prey item and also the 
micro-climate. It is worth bearing in mind that despite the ideas of 
phytosociology linking invertebrates to a defined plant assemblage is 
problematic. My feeling is that within the UK fauna there is an 
assemblage that is essentaily associated with acidic (and ericaceous) 
conditions in which the habitat has both wet and dry zones and is 
fringed by acid grassland with large numbers of yellow composites.

I have found as many as five species (S. batava, S. philantha, S. 
virgata, S. fatarum and S. scripta)? on the same heathland sites in SE 
England but of those two are abundant in the north and west (S. 
philantha and S. fatarum), whilst one is highly localised (S. virgata) 
and one is primarily northern (S. fatarum). What I do wonder about is 
the future status of these species in SE England with increasing climate 
impacts.

Regards

Roger

On 14/09/2020 09:13, ximo mengual sanchis wrote:
> Many thanks Roger!
>
> Very interesting information. Somehow, each species has different 
> ecological requirements, but one can collect 2 or 3 species in the 
> same locality.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ximo
>
>
>
>
> El dom., 13 sept. 2020 a las 20:13, Roger Morris (<syrphid58 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:syrphid58 at gmail.com>>) escribi?:
>
>     In the UK there is quite strong regional differentiation, with S.
>     philantha and fatarum being strongly northern and western but also
>     found in heathlands in southern England. S. potentillae is
>     confined to Culm grassland in the SW. S. taeniata and S. batava
>     are differentiated on habitat with S. taeniata more closely
>     associated with grasslands and S. batava with ericaceous scrub.
>     There are few records of S. virgata but this too seems to be a
>     heathland species. There remains a question mark for S. interrupta
>     but my feeling is that it is more a northern and western species.
>     No idea for S. bankowski!
>
>     Regards
>
>     Roger
>
>     On 13/09/2020 18:20, Menno Reemer wrote:
>>     In the Netherlands,? every Sphaerophoria species has its own
>>     habitat requirements, but some can be found in the same areas.
>>     For details, you could consult the species accounts in the book
>>     /De Nederlandse zweefvliegen/:
>>     https://www.bestuivers.nl/publicaties/de-nederlandse-zweefvliegen
>>     See chapter 10 pp. 311-318 for Sphaerophoria. These species
>>     accounts are based on the collective field experiences of many
>>     Dutch syrphidologists._They all have English summaries!_
>>     Also see appendix 6, which arranges all the species according to
>>     the habitats in which they occur.
>>     Best wishes,
>>     Menno
>>
>>
>>
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>>     *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>     <mailto:syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>     *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
>>     In Poland S. virgata is forest species, and rare. S. scripta is
>>     present on all possible types of meadows incl. ruderal areas,
>>     being sympatric with S. taeniata? and S. batava on e.g. forest
>>     glades and "good open areas", especially on coasts an along
>>     rivers - many times I gathered longer series of all three.
>>     S.philantha is extremely rare. S.interrupta is very rare.
>>
>>     niedz., 13 wrz 2020, 08:12 u?ytkownik ximo mengual sanchis
>>     <xmengual at gmail.com <mailto:xmengual at gmail.com>> napisa?:
>>
>>         Dear all,
>>
>>         I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field
>>         experience, I would say that usually more than one
>>         Sphaerophoria species occur in the same locality.
>>
>>         I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta
>>         and philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?
>>
>>         I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for
>>         example. Is it the same for philantha and virgata? or
>>         taeniata and interrupta?
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>
>>         Ximo
>>
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From xmengual at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 11:33:03 2020
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 12:33:03 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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Thanks Jeroen.

This is enough to make my mind about sympatry of Sphaerophoria species.

Roger, you may be right saying that the ecological separation may be at the
micro-scale. Jens-Hermann also suggested that and our knowledge gap about
what is relevant to the Sphaerophoria larvae (we are always talking about
adults here).

Thank you all for your comments and sharing your knowledge. HIghly
appreciated.

Ximo



El lun., 14 sept. 2020 a las 10:48, Jeroen van Steenis (<
j.van.steenis at xmsnet.nl>) escribi?:

> Dear Ximo
>
> In Sweden the species are often sympatric with up to 5 species flying
> together at the same day in one place.
> I can give you a brief overview of the species found together if you like.
> I think all species fly with other species, except possibly S. loewi.
> I have abbreviata, bankowskae, batava, chongjini, fatarum, laurae,
> ruepelli, interrupta, philanthus, taeniata, virgata and scripta all flying
> together with several other species, but none of them with all others.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeroen
>
> Op ma 14 sep. 2020 om 10:13 schreef ximo mengual sanchis <
> xmengual at gmail.com>:
>
>> Many thanks Roger!
>>
>> Very interesting information. Somehow, each species has different
>> ecological requirements, but one can collect 2 or 3 species in the same
>> locality.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ximo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El dom., 13 sept. 2020 a las 20:13, Roger Morris (<syrphid58 at gmail.com>)
>> escribi?:
>>
>>> In the UK there is quite strong regional differentiation, with S.
>>> philantha and fatarum being strongly northern and western but also found in
>>> heathlands in southern England. S. potentillae is confined to Culm
>>> grassland in the SW. S. taeniata and S. batava are differentiated on
>>> habitat with S. taeniata more closely associated with grasslands and S.
>>> batava with ericaceous scrub. There are few records of S. virgata but this
>>> too seems to be a heathland species. There remains a question mark for S.
>>> interrupta but my feeling is that it is more a northern and western
>>> species. No idea for S. bankowski!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> On 13/09/2020 18:20, Menno Reemer wrote:
>>>
>>> In the Netherlands,  every Sphaerophoria species has its own habitat
>>> requirements, but some can be found in the same areas. For details, you
>>> could consult the species accounts in the book *De Nederlandse
>>> zweefvliegen*:
>>> https://www.bestuivers.nl/publicaties/de-nederlandse-zweefvliegen
>>> See chapter 10 pp. 311-318 for Sphaerophoria. These species accounts are
>>> based on the collective field experiences of many Dutch syrphidologists.*
>>> They all have English summaries!*
>>> Also see appendix 6, which arranges all the species according to the
>>> habitats in which they occur.
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Menno
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> on behalf of Robert ??ralski
>>> <robert at insects.pl> <robert at insects.pl>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:21 PM
>>> *To:* ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com> <xmengual at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
>>>
>>> In Poland S. virgata is forest species, and rare. S. scripta is present
>>> on all possible types of meadows incl. ruderal areas, being sympatric with
>>> S. taeniata  and S. batava on e.g. forest glades and "good open areas",
>>> especially on coasts an along rivers - many times I gathered longer series
>>> of all three. S.philantha is extremely rare. S.interrupta is very rare.
>>>
>>> niedz., 13 wrz 2020, 08:12 u?ytkownik ximo mengual sanchis <
>>> xmengual at gmail.com> napisa?:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience,
>>> I would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the
>>> same locality.
>>>
>>> I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and
>>> philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?
>>>
>>> I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it
>>> the same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ximo
>>>
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk  Mon Sep 14 14:04:07 2020
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:04:07 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] FW:  Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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From: Frank Van de Meutter [mailto:frank.vandemeutter at kuleuven.be]
Sent: 14 September 2020 14:02
To: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>; Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Sympatry in Sphaerophoria


But all have some specific requirements:

S. taeniata: both wet and dry grasslands, (eutrophic) mesotrophic to oligotropic types, both grazed and mown etc. Quite wide ecological amplitude, widespread in Belgium

S. scripta: everywhere but less in forested areas, high numbers in open, dry nature types (dunes, agricultural land, disturbed areas,...)



The species below are all species that are confined to natural areas, often reserves, and large more or less permanent forest systems.

S. virgata: in nothern Belgium only on large heathlands, in southern Belgium both heathlands and clearings or permanent open areas in forest (Calluna may be present but not always)

S. philanthus: unimproved, moist acidic grasslands often with some Calluna etc Often present in heathlans but its presence is mostly confined to patches of acidic grassland. Likewise occurs in raised bogs and peat moors where such grasslands occur at the edges.

S. fatarum. True heathland species - I have never seen it away from Calluna heath.

S. interrupta: in drier climatic areas in Belgium confined to wet unimproved grasslands in small river valleys. In areas with high rainfall (and most grasslands therefore of some more or less permanent wet nature) widespread in unimproved grasslands, but not the short grassland type of philanthus - rather a more lush type with tall herbs



cheers

Frank?



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Onderwerp: [Syrphidae] Sympatry in Sphaerophoria

Dear all,

I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience, I would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the same locality.

I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?

I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it the same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?

Cheers,

Ximo



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From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:58:34 +0000
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From: Frank Van de Meutter [mailto:frank.vandemeutter at kuleuven.be]
Sent: 14 September 2020 14:47
To: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>; Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Sympatry in Sphaerophoria


Strange - the head of the mail seems to be missing.

It said that we in Belgium do have sites where all species co-occurr and can be caught on the same date - but such sites are often mixtures themselves of habitats eg acidic grasslands with Calluna heath next to rivers with more lush vegetation.

cheers

Frank

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Aan: ximo mengual sanchis; Hoverfly discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [Syrphidae] Sympatry in Sphaerophoria


But all have some specific requirements:

S. taeniata: both wet and dry grasslands, (eutrophic) mesotrophic to oligotropic types, both grazed and mown etc. Quite wide ecological amplitude, widespread in Belgium

S. scripta: everywhere but less in forested areas, high numbers in open, dry nature types (dunes, agricultural land, disturbed areas,...)



The species below are all species that are confined to natural areas, often reserves, and large more or less permanent forest systems.

S. virgata: in nothern Belgium only on large heathlands, in southern Belgium both heathlands and clearings or permanent open areas in forest (Calluna may be present but not always)

S. philanthus: unimproved, moist acidic grasslands often with some Calluna etc Often present in heathlans but its presence is mostly confined to patches of acidic grassland. Likewise occurs in raised bogs and peat moors where such grasslands occur at the edges.

S. fatarum. True heathland species - I have never seen it away from Calluna heath.

S. interrupta: in drier climatic areas in Belgium confined to wet unimproved grasslands in small river valleys. In areas with high rainfall (and most grasslands therefore of some more or less permanent wet nature) widespread in unimproved grasslands, but not the short grassland type of philanthus - rather a more lush type with tall herbs



cheers

Frank?



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Verzonden: zondag 13 september 2020 08:12
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Onderwerp: [Syrphidae] Sympatry in Sphaerophoria

Dear all,

I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience, I would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the same locality.

I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?

I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it the same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?

Cheers,

Ximo

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From ljvanderent at planet.nl  Mon Sep 14 21:04:10 2020
From: ljvanderent at planet.nl (Leendert-Jan van der Ent)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 22:04:10 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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Hi Ximo,

>From my experience in The Netherlands several species of Sphaerophoria can fly together but not in all possible combinations. 
Never seen interrupta and philantha together as well virgata and interrupta or virgata and taeniata.
Also peak in flight period of species are not always similar so they may live sympatric but do not occur at the same time. 

Based on habitat types you can find the following combinations:

(dry) hearther: scripta + virgata + batava (batava has become rare in The Netherlands over the past 2 decades!)

forests on sandy or peaty soils: scripta + batava + philantha*

wet hearther/ wet dune grasslands: scripta + philantha* + taeniata + fatarum (fatarum restricted to wet heather + fens)

flower rich grassland especially on clay soils: scripta + interrupta* + taeniata


*Outsite The Netherlands you can find interrupta and philantha in more habitats types.


Greetings,

Leendert-Jan van der Ent


>     Op 13-09-2020 08:12 schreef ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>:
>      
>      
>     Dear all,
>      
>     I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience, I would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the same locality. 
>      
>     I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?
>      
>     I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it the same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?
>      
>     Cheers,
>      
>     Ximo
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From stefanpruner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 09:15:29 2020
From: stefanpruner at gmail.com (Stefan Pruner)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:15:29 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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Hello!

In R?der 1990 it says (not quoting here) that although hoverflies are very
mobile, they prefer staying near their larval habitat. I can imagine that
goes more for small than for large species.

I mainly find S. interrupta together with S. scripta, but found S.
shirchan, or S. taeniata in habitats where S. scripta also flew.

Stefan

Am Mo., 14. Sept. 2020 um 12:33 Uhr schrieb ximo mengual sanchis <
xmengual at gmail.com>:

> Thanks Jeroen.
>
> This is enough to make my mind about sympatry of Sphaerophoria species.
>
> Roger, you may be right saying that the ecological separation may be at
> the micro-scale. Jens-Hermann also suggested that and our knowledge gap
> about what is relevant to the Sphaerophoria larvae (we are always talking
> about adults here).
>
> Thank you all for your comments and sharing your knowledge. HIghly
> appreciated.
>
> Ximo
>
>
>
> El lun., 14 sept. 2020 a las 10:48, Jeroen van Steenis (<
> j.van.steenis at xmsnet.nl>) escribi?:
>
>> Dear Ximo
>>
>> In Sweden the species are often sympatric with up to 5 species flying
>> together at the same day in one place.
>> I can give you a brief overview of the species found together if you
>> like. I think all species fly with other species, except possibly S. loewi.
>> I have abbreviata, bankowskae, batava, chongjini, fatarum, laurae,
>> ruepelli, interrupta, philanthus, taeniata, virgata and scripta all flying
>> together with several other species, but none of them with all others.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jeroen
>>
>> Op ma 14 sep. 2020 om 10:13 schreef ximo mengual sanchis <
>> xmengual at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Many thanks Roger!
>>>
>>> Very interesting information. Somehow, each species has different
>>> ecological requirements, but one can collect 2 or 3 species in the same
>>> locality.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ximo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El dom., 13 sept. 2020 a las 20:13, Roger Morris (<syrphid58 at gmail.com>)
>>> escribi?:
>>>
>>>> In the UK there is quite strong regional differentiation, with S.
>>>> philantha and fatarum being strongly northern and western but also found in
>>>> heathlands in southern England. S. potentillae is confined to Culm
>>>> grassland in the SW. S. taeniata and S. batava are differentiated on
>>>> habitat with S. taeniata more closely associated with grasslands and S.
>>>> batava with ericaceous scrub. There are few records of S. virgata but this
>>>> too seems to be a heathland species. There remains a question mark for S.
>>>> interrupta but my feeling is that it is more a northern and western
>>>> species. No idea for S. bankowski!
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Roger
>>>>
>>>> On 13/09/2020 18:20, Menno Reemer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In the Netherlands,  every Sphaerophoria species has its own habitat
>>>> requirements, but some can be found in the same areas. For details, you
>>>> could consult the species accounts in the book *De Nederlandse
>>>> zweefvliegen*:
>>>> https://www.bestuivers.nl/publicaties/de-nederlandse-zweefvliegen
>>>> See chapter 10 pp. 311-318 for Sphaerophoria. These species accounts
>>>> are based on the collective field experiences of many Dutch syrphidologists.*
>>>> They all have English summaries!*
>>>> Also see appendix 6, which arranges all the species according to the
>>>> habitats in which they occur.
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Menno
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
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>>>> <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>> <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> on behalf of Robert
>>>> ??ralski <robert at insects.pl> <robert at insects.pl>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:21 PM
>>>> *To:* ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com> <xmengual at gmail.com>
>>>> *Cc:* Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>> <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
>>>>
>>>> In Poland S. virgata is forest species, and rare. S. scripta is present
>>>> on all possible types of meadows incl. ruderal areas, being sympatric with
>>>> S. taeniata  and S. batava on e.g. forest glades and "good open areas",
>>>> especially on coasts an along rivers - many times I gathered longer series
>>>> of all three. S.philantha is extremely rare. S.interrupta is very rare.
>>>>
>>>> niedz., 13 wrz 2020, 08:12 u?ytkownik ximo mengual sanchis <
>>>> xmengual at gmail.com> napisa?:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field
>>>> experience, I would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species
>>>> occur in the same locality.
>>>>
>>>> I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and
>>>> philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?
>>>>
>>>> I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it
>>>> the same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Ximo
>>>>
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From grigory.v.popov at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 10:54:49 2020
From: grigory.v.popov at gmail.com (Grigory Popov)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:54:49 +0300
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Sympatry in Sphaerophoria
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Interesting. In Ukraine, S. scripta also occurs with S. taeniata in some
places.  But may be when we are analyzing the distribution of different
species of the genus, together or not, we must take into account their
number.  S. taeniata is the second numerous species after scripta, so it's
not surprising that they are seen together more often.

Grigory

??, 13 ???. 2020, 09:12 ?????????? ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>
????:

> Dear all,
>
> I have a question regarding Sphaerophoria. Based on my field experience, I
> would say that usually more than one Sphaerophoria species occur in the
> same locality.
>
> I am interested on S. taeniata, virgata, scripta, interrupta and
> philantha. Can someone tell me if they are sympatric?
>
> I collected in the same place scripta and taeniata, for example. Is it the
> same for philantha and virgata? or taeniata and interrupta?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ximo
>
>
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