From bwakkie at syrphidae.com Sun Jun 7 15:00:37 2020 From: bwakkie at syrphidae.com (Bastiaan) Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2020 16:00:37 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] Callicera larvae key Message-ID: <353f83f5849f8d179402a706eeadac4ebff4554d.camel@syrphidae.com> Dear all, I tried to send an email to Graham Rotheray g.rotheray at nms.ac.uk but it bounced back so I ask it here as I am looking for the following paper ... The larva of Callicera spinolae with a key to the larvae of British Callicera species (Diptera, Syrphidae) [1994] Rotheray, G.E. Perry, I. (Royal Museum of Scotland, Chambers Street, Edinburgh, EH1 1JF (United Kingdom)) ... as I found a Callicera larvae here in Brussels in a crack of a fallen fagus tree yesterday. This crack would have been around 20 meters up from the ground. Thanks, Bastiaan From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Sun Jun 7 15:23:36 2020 From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 14:23:36 +0000 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Callicera larvae key In-Reply-To: <353f83f5849f8d179402a706eeadac4ebff4554d.camel@syrphidae.com> References: <353f83f5849f8d179402a706eeadac4ebff4554d.camel@syrphidae.com> Message-ID: hi Bastiaan That's exciting ! Graham has retired and no longer has his instution email. Francis -----Original Message----- From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Sent: 07 June 2020 15:01 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] Callicera larvae key Dear all, I tried to send an email to Graham Rotheray g.rotheray at nms.ac.uk but it bounced back so I ask it here as I am looking for the following paper ... The larva of Callicera spinolae with a key to the larvae of British Callicera species (Diptera, Syrphidae) [1994] Rotheray, G.E. Perry, I. (Royal Museum of Scotland, Chambers Street, Edinburgh, EH1 1JF (United Kingdom)) ... as I found a Callicera larvae here in Brussels in a crack of a fallen fagus tree yesterday. This crack would have been around 20 meters up from the ground. Thanks, Bastiaan _______________________________________________ Syrphidae mailing list Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Graham has retired and no longer has his instution email. Francis -----Original Message----- From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Sent: 07 June 2020 15:01 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] Callicera larvae key Dear all, I tried to send an email to Graham Rotheray g.rotheray at nms.ac.uk but it bounced back so I ask it here as I am looking for the following paper ... The larva of Callicera spinolae with a key to the larvae of British Callicera species (Diptera, Syrphidae) [1994] Rotheray, G.E. Perry, I. (Royal Museum of Scotland, Chambers Street, Edinburgh, EH1 1JF (United Kingdom)) ... as I found a Callicera larvae here in Brussels in a crack of a fallen fagus tree yesterday. This crack would have been around 20 meters up from the ground. 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From cyrille.dussaix at orange.fr Mon Jun 8 13:02:51 2020 From: cyrille.dussaix at orange.fr (Cyrille DUSSAIX) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 14:02:51 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] European larvae of Syrphidae Message-ID: <5eddf482-92e0-c182-d6dd-2d58a29207da@orange.fr> Hi all, During the "Stay at home" in France, I gathered all the illustrations relating to the European larvae of Syrphidae which have been described. Much remains to be discovered ;-). 1) if authors wish their illustrations not to appear, please let me know. 2) If authors wish to add illustrations, idem. 3) Please let me know of any errors or omissions. I hope that this work will be useful in developing the study of the early stages of the syrphids. Thanks again to Martin S. and Francis G. for their support. Greetings. Cyrille. See : http://cyrille.dussaix.pagesperso-orange.fr/_SYRPHIDAE_LARVA_DC2020/_INTRODUCTION.html -- Signature **************************************** INSECTA DIPTERA SYRPHIDAE D?EUROPE?: http://perso.orange.fr/cyrille.dussaix/ Un travail collaboratif de plus de 70 personnes d'Europe. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ *Diptera-Syrphidae *: Liste de discussion. Me contacter. SVP. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *Index bibliographique de la faune sarthoise*: http://perso.orange.fr/cyrille.dussaix/Biblio-Faune-72.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phycus at gmail.com Mon Jun 8 16:44:25 2020 From: phycus at gmail.com (Martin Hauser) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 08:44:25 -0700 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: European larvae of Syrphidae In-Reply-To: <5eddf482-92e0-c182-d6dd-2d58a29207da@orange.fr> References: <5eddf482-92e0-c182-d6dd-2d58a29207da@orange.fr> Message-ID: Cyrille, amazing work! Thanks so much, this is very helpful and was a lot of work! Cheers Martin On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 5:10 AM Cyrille DUSSAIX wrote: > Hi all, > > During the "Stay at home" in France, I gathered all the illustrations > relating to the European larvae of Syrphidae which have been described. > Much remains to be discovered ;-). > 1) if authors wish their illustrations not to appear, please let me know. > 2) If authors wish to add illustrations, idem. > 3) Please let me know of any errors or omissions. > I hope that this work will be useful in developing the study of the early > stages of the syrphids. > Thanks again to Martin S. and Francis G. for their support. > Greetings. > Cyrille. > > See : > http://cyrille.dussaix.pagesperso-orange.fr/_SYRPHIDAE_LARVA_DC2020/_INTRODUCTION.html > -- > > **************************************** > > INSECTA DIPTERA SYRPHIDAE D?EUROPE : > http://perso.orange.fr/cyrille.dussaix/ > > > Un travail collaboratif de plus de 70 personnes d'Europe. > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > > *Diptera-Syrphidae *: Liste de discussion. 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I bet it took a while ;) Ximo El lun., 8 jun. 2020 14:10, Cyrille DUSSAIX escribi?: > Hi all, > > During the "Stay at home" in France, I gathered all the illustrations > relating to the European larvae of Syrphidae which have been described. > Much remains to be discovered ;-). > 1) if authors wish their illustrations not to appear, please let me know. > 2) If authors wish to add illustrations, idem. > 3) Please let me know of any errors or omissions. > I hope that this work will be useful in developing the study of the early > stages of the syrphids. > Thanks again to Martin S. and Francis G. for their support. > Greetings. > Cyrille. > > See : > http://cyrille.dussaix.pagesperso-orange.fr/_SYRPHIDAE_LARVA_DC2020/_INTRODUCTION.html > -- > > **************************************** > > INSECTA DIPTERA SYRPHIDAE D?EUROPE : > http://perso.orange.fr/cyrille.dussaix/ > > > Un travail collaboratif de plus de 70 personnes d'Europe. > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > > *Diptera-Syrphidae *: Liste de discussion. 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URL: From ante.vujic at dbe.uns.ac.rs Tue Jun 9 08:59:48 2020 From: ante.vujic at dbe.uns.ac.rs (=?UTF-8?Q?Ante_Vuji=c4=87?=) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 09:59:48 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] Syrphidae alert Message-ID: Dear all, I would like to share with you field experience from this season in Serbia. We have less than 50% of species usual for this time of year in flight and most of present species are with very small populations. Aphidofagous species are most numerous, especially Syrphus. Very low number of Cheilosia and Merodon. This can be related to long period without rain during spring, but still. During my 40 years experience in field work, this is the strangest season. Best regards, Ante From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jun 9 09:09:41 2020 From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 08:09:41 +0000 Subject: [Syrphidae] FW: Syrphidae alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ante Vujic Sent: 09 June 2020 09:00 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] Syrphidae alert Dear all, I would like to share with you field experience from this season in Serbia. We have less than 50% of species usual for this time of year in flight and most of present species are with very small populations. Aphidofagous species are most numerous, especially Syrphus. Very low number of Cheilosia and Merodon. This can be related to long period without rain during spring, but still. During my 40 years experience in field work, this is the strangest season. Best regards, Ante _______________________________________________ Syrphidae mailing list Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Wed Jun 10 05:57:59 2020 From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 04:57:59 +0000 Subject: [Syrphidae] FW: Syrphidae alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: stiller3 [mailto:stiller3 at xs4all.nl] Sent: 09 June 2020 20:56 To: Ante Vuji? Cc: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Syrphidae alert Hi Ante, I kind of experience the same here where I have spent almost 2 months now, in the SW of France. Low numbers of most taxa, also of many Syrphini, except some. Sphaerophoria scripta in very large numbers last week. But, compared to last year 2019, my impression is that this year is much poorer, despite the mild winter they had here. But 'a hunch' is no proof. cheers, Andr? Ante Vuji? schreef op 09-06-2020 09:59: Dear all, I would like to share with you field experience from this season in Serbia. We have less than 50% of species usual for this time of year in flight and most of present species are with very small populations. Aphidofagous species are most numerous, especially Syrphus. Very low number of Cheilosia and Merodon. This can be related to long period without rain during spring, but still. During my 40 years experience in field work, this is the strangest season. Best regards, Ante _______________________________________________ Syrphidae mailing list Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. 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The number of species that I usually see around the place where I do live every year but the past few years not anymore is growing. If this continuous we will get mediteranean climate conditions in The Netherlands . Good for some interesting Pipizella and Paragus species, maybe also Merodon, but bad for the North European and Central European hilly area and mountain species. Maybe an idea that those of us who have similar findings tries to quantify this downgrade of species and specimens numbers and put these information together to find out which species are influenced the most. I will do this at the end of the season. Right now we are busy with the Red Listing of Eurpean hoverfly species. Climate change - influenced by humans or not - might become a bigger threat to hoverfly species than habitat destruction has been in the past. And this effects most species of hoverflies and not only those who are living in threathened habitat types. Let's hope that in other parts of Europe hoverflies are doing better! Regards, Leendert-Jan van der Ent > Op 10 juni 2020 om 6:57 schreef Francis Gilbert : > > > > > > > From: stiller3 [mailto:stiller3 at xs4all.nl] > Sent: 09 June 2020 20:56 > To: Ante Vuji? > Cc: Hoverfly discussion list > Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Syrphidae alert > > > Hi Ante, > > I kind of experience the same here where I have spent almost 2 months now, in the SW of France. > Low numbers of most taxa, also of many Syrphini, except some. > Sphaerophoria scripta in very large numbers last week. > But, compared to last year 2019, my impression is that this year is much poorer, despite the mild winter they had here. > > But 'a hunch' is no proof. > > cheers, Andr? > > > > > > Ante Vuji? schreef op 09-06-2020 09:59: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > I would like to share with you field experience from this season in Serbia. We have less than 50% of species usual for this time of year in flight and most of present species are with very small populations. Aphidofagous species are most numerous, especially Syrphus. Very low number of Cheilosia and Merodon. This can be related to long period without rain during spring, but still. During my 40 years experience in field work, this is the strangest season. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ante > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Syrphidae mailing list > > Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk mailto:Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > > > > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > > and may contain confidential information. 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Cheers, Bastiaan Leendert-Jan van der Ent schreef op 10-06-2020 21:53: > Hi all, > > Similar in The Netherlands. > Low number of specimens of most species and low numbers regarding > species in forest areas on sandy soils. > We have had the thirth dry and warm spring in a row and probably also > will get a dry and hot summer again. > This is going to be devestating to populations of quite some forest. > and also natural dry grassland an Heather, species. > The number of species that I usually see around the place where I do > live every year but the past few years not anymore is growing. > If this continuous we will get mediteranean climate conditions in The > Netherlands . > Good for some interesting _Pipizella_ and _Paragus_ species, maybe > also _Merodon_, but bad for the North European and Central European > hilly area and mountain species. > > Maybe an idea that those of us who have similar findings tries to > quantify this downgrade of species and specimens numbers and put these > information together to find out which species are influenced the > most. I will do this at the end of the season. > Right now we are busy with the Red Listing of Eurpean hoverfly > species. > Climate change - influenced by humans or not - might become a bigger > threat to hoverfly species than habitat destruction has been in the > past. And this effects most species of hoverflies and not only those > who are living in threathened habitat types. > > Let's hope that in other parts of Europe hoverflies are doing better! > > > Regards, > > Leendert-Jan van der Ent > >> Op 10 juni 2020 om 6:57 schreef Francis Gilbert >> : >> >> FROM: stiller3 [mailto:stiller3 at xs4all.nl] >> SENT: 09 June 2020 20:56 >> TO: Ante Vuji? >> CC: Hoverfly discussion list >> SUBJECT: Re: [Syrphidae] Syrphidae alert >> >> Hi Ante, >> >> I kind of experience the same here where I have spent almost 2 >> months now, in the SW of France. >> Low numbers of most taxa, also of many Syrphini, except some. >> Sphaerophoria scripta in very large numbers last week. >> But, compared to last year 2019, my impression is that this year is >> much poorer, despite the mild winter they had here. >> >> But 'a hunch' is no proof. >> >> cheers, Andr? >> >> Ante Vuji? schreef op 09-06-2020 09:59: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I would like to share with you field experience from this season >>> in Serbia. We have less than 50% of species usual for this time of >>> year in flight and most of present species are with very small >>> populations. Aphidofagous species are most numerous, especially >>> Syrphus. Very low number of Cheilosia and Merodon. This can be >>> related to long period without rain during spring, but still. >>> During my 40 years experience in field work, this is the strangest >>> season. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ante >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Syrphidae mailing list >>> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae >>> >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received >>> this >>> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email >>> and >>> attachment. >>> >>> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>> Email >>> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored >>> where permitted by law. >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >> addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and >> attachment. >> >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored >> where permitted by law. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Syrphidae mailing list >> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > > Met vriendelijke groet, > Leendert-Jan van der Ent > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and > attachment. > > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored > where permitted by law. > _______________________________________________ > Syrphidae mailing list > Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Thu Jun 11 09:25:47 2020 From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 08:25:47 +0000 Subject: [Syrphidae] FW: FW: Re: FW: Syrphidae alert In-Reply-To: <13f721a0-e51a-d18d-507c-cb06b14f4711@gmail.com> References: <755185343.145744.1591818789618@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <2f4aef649c6cc116e6245b1b7fd750da@wakkie.org> <13f721a0-e51a-d18d-507c-cb06b14f4711@gmail.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Roger Morris [mailto:syrphid58 at gmail.com] Sent: 11 June 2020 09:24 To: Francis Gilbert ; Stuart Ball Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] FW: Re: FW: Syrphidae alert Hi Francis I'm not sure if I responded directly that this would circulate relevant people, so perhaps you can circulate as you just have with Bastian's comments. I have the following thoughts: 1. We have some evidence that the numbers of hoverflies present do drop during periods of extreme heat and drought - there is a basic analysis in Dipterists Digest but it must be accompanied by suitable caveats - the data used are not structured and making parallels with aggregations of previous years' data makes some assumptions that can be challenged. Nevertheless, with data collected in a similar manner over a sequence of years it may be possible to detect basic patterns but probably not conclusive evidence. 2. For all effects we must consider that there are two or more variables that may be responsible for localised differences in perceived abundance. Firstly, a drop in abundance may be a response to a previous season rather than the season under observation. We have some evidence that incremental impact of climate change may affect subsequent generations using Rhingia campestris, and we did try to publis a paper on Leucozona glaucia that got comprehensively trashed by reviewers (criticisms included that the reason for decline was simply agricultural impacts and pesticide use - wrong but difficult to counter without a long wrangle and no point when the paper has been rejected). 3. To stand any chance of a realistic analysis one needs an awful lot of records! The HRS now generates about 60-70k records a year, but for most species the absolute numbers are low because the data are always dominated by the obvious, charismatic and readily identified species. Thus, once one starts to look at individual species within more challenging taxa such as Pipiza, Cheilosia and Eumerus, the volumes of data are very limited and do not stand up well to detailed scrutiny. I would not consider modelling these genera because the data are far too weak and unreliable. So, the best one might do is to think about different guilds - how do stem feeders, root feeders, saproxylic root feeders, rot hole feeders etc fare as a guild? I suspect that if the HRS lacks adequate data then the same will obtain across Europe and may be even more restricted in many places. 4. Making links to actual weather patterns is often problematic too. We see a regular pattern in our data with vastly more records emerging at weekends. BUT there are supplementary patterns that seem to reflect separate weather events - a High or Low pressure system can be detected in the gross number of records, and after a particular hot or cold episode the following days can be very weak for records. So, it is likely that existing generations are suppressed and new waves reflect the emergence of new generations. 5. We know precious little about differentials in phenology across Europe. What Stuart and I have found in the UK is that there are strong regional differences across both lonitude and latitude. I suspect that with enough data we might be able to develop a regional picture for Europe for a few distinctive and responsive species. The species I would use is Epistrophe eligans, which is suitable because it is both abundant and easily identified, as well as being very widespread. Maybe a dataset could be assembled to create the equivalent of a seasonal 'pressure map' for Europe. However, there is a need for a huge volume of data and we know that this species' phenology has changed massively in the past 40 years. So, my feeling is that making any link between this spring and perceived abundance of hoverflies is unlikely to be possible with current levels of recording effort. I think there is a small chance of picking up signals from some big extremes in the future providing data are collected with this in mind. There is obviously potential for setting up a collaborative project to look at such matters on a European scale, but looking at GBIF I think that there is such massive variation in recording activity that many of the signals will be lost in the graininess of the data. A run of several years of effort would be needed. For the last couple of years I have pushed my efforts onto detailed daily recording, but even that is scuppered because I have nipped up to Scotland in June and of course my data then come from a completely different geographic zone, making them quite unsuitable for analysis. Hope thios provides some food for thought Roger On 11/06/2020 06:55, Francis Gilbert wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bastiaan [mailto:bastiaan at wakkie.org] > Sent: 10 June 2020 21:14 > To: Leendert-Jan van der Ent > Cc: Hoverfly discussion list > Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Re: FW: Syrphidae alert > > Hi, > > First of, I was sitting most of the time home, so no time to look > really. I guess that has an effect too this year? > Also I have the 'feeling/hunch' a lot of species start earlier, the last > years I always seam to mis the Melangyna's for example. > > I guess fixed monitoring (grid) across Europe can really prove something > in the future. > > Cheers, > Bastiaan > > > Leendert-Jan van der Ent schreef op 10-06-2020 21:53: >> Hi all, >> >> Similar in The Netherlands. >> Low number of specimens of most species and low numbers regarding >> species in forest areas on sandy soils. >> We have had the thirth dry and warm spring in a row and probably also >> will get a dry and hot summer again. >> This is going to be devestating to populations of quite some forest. >> and also natural dry grassland an Heather, species. >> The number of species that I usually see around the place where I do >> live every year but the past few years not anymore is growing. >> If this continuous we will get mediteranean climate conditions in The >> Netherlands . >> Good for some interesting _Pipizella_ and _Paragus_ species, maybe >> also _Merodon_, but bad for the North European and Central European >> hilly area and mountain species. >> >> Maybe an idea that those of us who have similar findings tries to >> quantify this downgrade of species and specimens numbers and put these >> information together to find out which species are influenced the >> most. I will do this at the end of the season. >> Right now we are busy with the Red Listing of Eurpean hoverfly >> species. >> Climate change - influenced by humans or not - might become a bigger >> threat to hoverfly species than habitat destruction has been in the >> past. And this effects most species of hoverflies and not only those >> who are living in threathened habitat types. >> >> Let's hope that in other parts of Europe hoverflies are doing better! >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Leendert-Jan van der Ent >> >>> Op 10 juni 2020 om 6:57 schreef Francis Gilbert >>> : >>> >>> FROM: stiller3 [mailto:stiller3 at xs4all.nl] >>> SENT: 09 June 2020 20:56 >>> TO: Ante Vuji? >>> CC: Hoverfly discussion list >>> SUBJECT: Re: [Syrphidae] Syrphidae alert >>> >>> Hi Ante, >>> >>> I kind of experience the same here where I have spent almost 2 >>> months now, in the SW of France. >>> Low numbers of most taxa, also of many Syrphini, except some. >>> Sphaerophoria scripta in very large numbers last week. >>> But, compared to last year 2019, my impression is that this year is >>> much poorer, despite the mild winter they had here. >>> >>> But 'a hunch' is no proof. >>> >>> cheers, Andr? >>> >>> Ante Vuji? schreef op 09-06-2020 09:59: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> I would like to share with you field experience from this season >>>> in Serbia. We have less than 50% of species usual for this time of >>>> year in flight and most of present species are with very small >>>> populations. Aphidofagous species are most numerous, especially >>>> Syrphus. Very low number of Cheilosia and Merodon. This can be >>>> related to long period without rain during spring, but still. >>>> During my 40 years experience in field work, this is the strangest >>>> season. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Ante >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Syrphidae mailing list >>>> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae >>>> >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee >>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received >>>> this >>>> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email >>>> and >>>> attachment. >>>> >>>> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>> Email >>>> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored >>>> where permitted by law. >>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>> addressee >>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and >>> attachment. >>> >>> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email >>> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored >>> where permitted by law. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Syrphidae mailing list >>> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae >> Met vriendelijke groet, >> Leendert-Jan van der Ent >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and >> attachment. >> >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored >> where permitted by law. >> _______________________________________________ >> Syrphidae mailing list >> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > _______________________________________________ > Syrphidae mailing list > Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and > attachment. > > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored > where permitted by law. > > > > From ante.vujic at dbe.uns.ac.rs Thu Jun 11 13:15:19 2020 From: ante.vujic at dbe.uns.ac.rs (=?UTF-8?Q?Ante_Vuji=c4=87?=) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 14:15:19 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: FW: FW: Re: FW: Syrphidae alert In-Reply-To: References: <755185343.145744.1591818789618@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> <2f4aef649c6cc116e6245b1b7fd750da@wakkie.org> <13f721a0-e51a-d18d-507c-cb06b14f4711@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4def5705-833c-8fa5-8664-6d494544d2b3@dbe.uns.ac.rs> Dear all, Based on EU Pollinators Initiative https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2019-0104_EN.html European Commission work on European Pollinator Monitoring Scheme. This scheme will includes wild bees, bumblebees, butterflies and hoverflies. In next few years COMPLETE system of monitoring of pollinators will be established in EU countries. This is the best opportunity to understand trends and causes. Best regards, Ante On 11.6.2020 10:25, Francis Gilbert wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Morris [mailto:syrphid58 at gmail.com] > Sent: 11 June 2020 09:24 > To: Francis Gilbert ; Stuart Ball > Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] FW: Re: FW: Syrphidae alert > > Hi Francis > > I'm not sure if I responded directly that this would circulate relevant > people, so perhaps you can circulate as you just have with Bastian's > comments. I have the following thoughts: > > 1. We have some evidence that the numbers of hoverflies present do drop > during periods of extreme heat and drought - there is a basic analysis > in Dipterists Digest but it must be accompanied by suitable caveats - > the data used are not structured and making parallels with aggregations > of previous years' data makes some assumptions that can be challenged. > Nevertheless, with data collected in a similar manner over a sequence of > years it may be possible to detect basic patterns but probably not > conclusive evidence. > > 2. For all effects we must consider that there are two or more variables > that may be responsible for localised differences in perceived > abundance. Firstly, a drop in abundance may be a response to a previous > season rather than the season under observation. We have some evidence > that incremental impact of climate change may affect subsequent > generations using Rhingia campestris, and we did try to publis a paper > on Leucozona glaucia that got comprehensively trashed by reviewers > (criticisms included that the reason for decline was simply agricultural > impacts and pesticide use - wrong but difficult to counter without a > long wrangle and no point when the paper has been rejected). > > 3. To stand any chance of a realistic analysis one needs an awful lot of > records! The HRS now generates about 60-70k records a year, but for most > species the absolute numbers are low because the data are always > dominated by the obvious, charismatic and readily identified species. > Thus, once one starts to look at individual species within more > challenging taxa such as Pipiza, Cheilosia and Eumerus, the volumes of > data are very limited and do not stand up well to detailed scrutiny. I > would not consider modelling these genera because the data are far too > weak and unreliable. So, the best one might do is to think about > different guilds - how do stem feeders, root feeders, saproxylic root > feeders, rot hole feeders etc fare as a guild? I suspect that if the HRS > lacks adequate data then the same will obtain across Europe and may be > even more restricted in many places. > > 4. Making links to actual weather patterns is often problematic too. We > see a regular pattern in our data with vastly more records emerging at > weekends. BUT there are supplementary patterns that seem to reflect > separate weather events - a High or Low pressure system can be detected > in the gross number of records, and after a particular hot or cold > episode the following days can be very weak for records. So, it is > likely that existing generations are suppressed and new waves reflect > the emergence of new generations. > > 5. We know precious little about differentials in phenology across > Europe. What Stuart and I have found in the UK is that there are strong > regional differences across both lonitude and latitude. I suspect that > with enough data we might be able to develop a regional picture for > Europe for a few distinctive and responsive species. The species I would > use is Epistrophe eligans, which is suitable because it is both abundant > and easily identified, as well as being very widespread. Maybe a dataset > could be assembled to create the equivalent of a seasonal 'pressure map' > for Europe. However, there is a need for a huge volume of data and we > know that this species' phenology has changed massively in the past 40 > years. > > So, my feeling is that making any link between this spring and perceived > abundance of hoverflies is unlikely to be possible with current levels > of recording effort. I think there is a small chance of picking up > signals from some big extremes in the future providing data are > collected with this in mind. There is obviously potential for setting up > a collaborative project to look at such matters on a European scale, but > looking at GBIF I think that there is such massive variation in > recording activity that many of the signals will be lost in the > graininess of the data. A run of several years of effort would be > needed. For the last couple of years I have pushed my efforts onto > detailed daily recording, but even that is scuppered because I have > nipped up to Scotland in June and of course my data then come from a > completely different geographic zone, making them quite unsuitable for > analysis. > > Hope thios provides some food for thought > > Roger > > On 11/06/2020 06:55, Francis Gilbert wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bastiaan [mailto:bastiaan at wakkie.org] >> Sent: 10 June 2020 21:14 >> To: Leendert-Jan van der Ent >> Cc: Hoverfly discussion list >> Subject: Re: [Syrphidae] Re: FW: Syrphidae alert >> >> Hi, >> >> First of, I was sitting most of the time home, so no time to look >> really. I guess that has an effect too this year? >> Also I have the 'feeling/hunch' a lot of species start earlier, the last >> years I always seam to mis the Melangyna's for example. >> >> I guess fixed monitoring (grid) across Europe can really prove something >> in the future. >> >> Cheers, >> Bastiaan >> >> >> Leendert-Jan van der Ent schreef op 10-06-2020 21:53: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Similar in The Netherlands. >>> Low number of specimens of most species and low numbers regarding >>> species in forest areas on sandy soils. >>> We have had the thirth dry and warm spring in a row and probably also >>> will get a dry and hot summer again. >>> This is going to be devestating to populations of quite some forest. >>> and also natural dry grassland an Heather, species. >>> The number of species that I usually see around the place where I do >>> live every year but the past few years not anymore is growing. >>> If this continuous we will get mediteranean climate conditions in The >>> Netherlands . >>> Good for some interesting _Pipizella_ and _Paragus_ species, maybe >>> also _Merodon_, but bad for the North European and Central European >>> hilly area and mountain species. >>> >>> Maybe an idea that those of us who have similar findings tries to >>> quantify this downgrade of species and specimens numbers and put these >>> information together to find out which species are influenced the >>> most. I will do this at the end of the season. >>> Right now we are busy with the Red Listing of Eurpean hoverfly >>> species. >>> Climate change - influenced by humans or not - might become a bigger >>> threat to hoverfly species than habitat destruction has been in the >>> past. And this effects most species of hoverflies and not only those >>> who are living in threathened habitat types. >>> >>> Let's hope that in other parts of Europe hoverflies are doing better! >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Leendert-Jan van der Ent >>> >>>> Op 10 juni 2020 om 6:57 schreef Francis Gilbert >>>> : >>>> >>>> FROM: stiller3 [mailto:stiller3 at xs4all.nl] >>>> SENT: 09 June 2020 20:56 >>>> TO: Ante Vuji? >>>> CC: Hoverfly discussion list >>>> SUBJECT: Re: [Syrphidae] Syrphidae alert >>>> >>>> Hi Ante, >>>> >>>> I kind of experience the same here where I have spent almost 2 >>>> months now, in the SW of France. >>>> Low numbers of most taxa, also of many Syrphini, except some. >>>> Sphaerophoria scripta in very large numbers last week. >>>> But, compared to last year 2019, my impression is that this year is >>>> much poorer, despite the mild winter they had here. >>>> >>>> But 'a hunch' is no proof. >>>> >>>> cheers, Andr? >>>> >>>> Ante Vuji? schreef op 09-06-2020 09:59: >>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to share with you field experience from this season >>>>> in Serbia. We have less than 50% of species usual for this time of >>>>> year in flight and most of present species are with very small >>>>> populations. Aphidofagous species are most numerous, especially >>>>> Syrphus. Very low number of Cheilosia and Merodon. This can be >>>>> related to long period without rain during spring, but still. >>>>> During my 40 years experience in field work, this is the strangest >>>>> season. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Ante >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Syrphidae mailing list >>>>> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >>>>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae >>>>> >>>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>>> addressee >>>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received >>>>> this >>>>> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email >>>>> and >>>>> attachment. >>>>> >>>>> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >>>>> Email >>>>> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored >>>>> where permitted by law. >>>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the >>>> addressee >>>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >>>> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and >>>> attachment. >>>> >>>> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >>>> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Other issues of the journal > can be found on the same website. > > Paul > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 15:10, Menno Reemer wrote: > >> Here it is! >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk < >> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> on behalf of Sander Bot < >> botsander at gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2020 12:55 PM >> *To:* hoverfly discussion list >> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Paper request >> >> Hello everybody, >> >> Anyone having this one as pdf? >> >> HELLEN, W., 1930. Zur Kenntnis der sibirischen Arten der Gattung Chilosia >> Meig. (Dipt.). Notulae Entomologica, 10: 26-29. >> >> Many thanks in advance, >> >> Sander >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. 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I'm looking for the following 6 species: Chalcosyrphus eumerus Chalcosyrphus nigripes Chalcosyrphus obscurus Lejota korsakovi Spilomyia triangulara Syritta vittata Thanks in advance, greetings, Gerard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jayitasengupta9 at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 10:47:46 2020 From: jayitasengupta9 at gmail.com (JAYITA SENGUPTA) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:17:46 +0530 Subject: [Syrphidae] description of some species are needed Message-ID: respected all does anyone have the description pdf of the following species 1. *Sphegina *(*Sphegina*) *guptai *Mutin, 1998 1998, *Sphegina guptai* Mutin, *J. Dipt. Res.**9*: 237-241 2. *Paragus*(*Pandasyopthalmus*) *politus *Wiedemann, 1830 1830. *Paragus Politus* Wiedemann, *Aussereurop.Zweifl. Insekt.**2*:89 -- then please provide me the details it will be highly helpful *Regards* *Jayita Sengupta* *Senior Zoological Assistant* *Zoological Survey of India* *M Block, New Alipore* *Kolkata: 700053* *Ministry of Environment, Forests & Climate Change* *Government of India.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From muscapaul at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 11:18:03 2020 From: muscapaul at gmail.com (muscapaul) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:18:03 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: description of some species are needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wiedemann is here: https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/bibliography/14603#/summary Paul On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 11:48, JAYITA SENGUPTA wrote: > respected all > > does anyone have the description pdf of the following species > > 1. *Sphegina *(*Sphegina*) *guptai *Mutin, 1998 > > 1998, *Sphegina guptai* Mutin, *J. Dipt. Res.**9*: 237-241 > > 2. *Paragus*(*Pandasyopthalmus*) *politus *Wiedemann, 1830 > > 1830. *Paragus Politus* Wiedemann, *Aussereurop.Zweifl. Insekt.**2*:89 > -- > > then please provide me the details it will be highly helpful > *Regards* > *Jayita Sengupta* > *Senior Zoological Assistant* > *Zoological Survey of India* > *M Block, New Alipore* > *Kolkata: 700053* > *Ministry of Environment, Forests & Climate Change* > *Government of India.* > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and > attachment. > > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored > where permitted by law. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Syrphidae mailing list > Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valerimutin at mail.ru Wed Jun 24 12:34:35 2020 From: valerimutin at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?TXV0aW4gVmFsZXJp?=) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 14:34:35 +0300 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: =?utf-8?q?description_of_some_species_are_needed?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1592998475.321408995@f533.i.mail.ru> Hi! ? Sorry, there is not other version of the requested paper. ? Best wishes, Valery ? >?????, 24 ???? 2020, 12:48 +03:00 ?? JAYITA SENGUPTA : >? >respected all >does anyone have the description pdf of the following species >1. ????? Sphegina ( Sphegina ) guptai Mutin, 1998 >1998, Sphegina guptai Mutin, J. Dipt. Res. 9 : 237-241 >2. ????? Paragus ( Pandasyopthalmus ) politus Wiedemann, 1830 >? >1830. Paragus Politus Wiedemann, Aussereurop.Zweifl. Insekt. 2 :89 --? >? >then please provide me the details it will be highly helpful >Regards >Jayita Sengupta >Senior Zoological Assistant >Zoological Survey of India >M Block, New Alipore >Kolkata: 700053 >Ministry of Environment, Forests & Climate Change >Government of India. >This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and >attachment. > >Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email >communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored >where permitted by law. > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Syrphidae mailing list >Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae >? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: Barkalov&Burlak_2000 - anthophily in Cheilosia.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 672340 bytes Desc: Barkalov&Burlak_2000 - anthophily in Cheilosia.pdf URL: From w.v.steenis at casema.nl Wed Jun 24 12:37:40 2020 From: w.v.steenis at casema.nl (w.v.steenis at casema.nl) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 13:37:40 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: description of some species are needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001f01d64a1b$de85ee60$9b91cb20$@casema.nl> Here is Mutin 1998. Cheers, Wouter Van: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Namens JAYITA SENGUPTA Verzonden: woensdag 24 juni 2020 11:48 Aan: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Onderwerp: [Syrphidae] description of some species are needed respected all does anyone have the description pdf of the following species 1. Sphegina (Sphegina) guptai Mutin, 1998 1998, Sphegina guptai Mutin, J. Dipt. Res.9: 237-241 2. Paragus(Pandasyopthalmus) politus Wiedemann, 1830 1830. Paragus Politus Wiedemann, Aussereurop.Zweifl. Insekt.2:89 -- then please provide me the details it will be highly helpful Regards Jayita Sengupta Senior Zoological Assistant Zoological Survey of India M Block, New Alipore Kolkata: 700053 Ministry of Environment, Forests & Climate Change Government of India. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Here is Mutin's paper... Cheers Martin On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:18 AM muscapaul wrote: > Wiedemann is here: > https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/bibliography/14603#/summary > > Paul > > On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 11:48, JAYITA SENGUPTA > wrote: > >> respected all >> >> does anyone have the description pdf of the following species >> >> 1. *Sphegina *(*Sphegina*) *guptai *Mutin, 1998 >> >> 1998, *Sphegina guptai* Mutin, *J. Dipt. Res.**9*: 237-241 >> >> 2. *Paragus*(*Pandasyopthalmus*) *politus *Wiedemann, 1830 >> >> 1830. *Paragus Politus* Wiedemann, *Aussereurop.Zweifl. Insekt.**2*:89 >> -- >> >> then please provide me the details it will be highly helpful >> *Regards* >> *Jayita Sengupta* >> *Senior Zoological Assistant* >> *Zoological Survey of India* >> *M Block, New Alipore* >> *Kolkata: 700053* >> *Ministry of Environment, Forests & Climate Change* >> *Government of India.* >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and >> attachment. >> >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored >> where permitted by law. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Syrphidae mailing list >> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae >> > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and > attachment. > > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored > where permitted by law. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Syrphidae mailing list > Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > -- Dr. Martin Hauser Senior Insect Biosystematist California Department of Food and Agriculture Plant Pest Diagnostics Branch 3294 Meadowview Road Sacramento, CA 95832-1448 (916) 738-6677 cell: 217-3902417 http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/ppd/staff/mhauser.html 38?28?38?N 121?28?10? "Nothing is static. Everything is evolving. Everything is falling apart.? ? Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Mutin1998_Sphegina.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 259440 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ljvanderent at planet.nl Tue Jun 30 21:53:06 2020 From: ljvanderent at planet.nl (Leendert-Jan van der Ent) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 22:53:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Syrphidae] two russian paper Message-ID: <759630137.1531365.1593550386637@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl> Dear hoverly lovers, Can anybody provide my the following two papers? Stackelberg, ?. ?. 1958. List of Diptera of the Leningrad Region. IV. Syrphidae. Proceedings of the Zoological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, 24: 192?246. [In Russian] Zimina, L. V. 1986. Additional data on Syrphid fauna (Diptera, Syrphidae) in Moscow region. Bulletin of Moscow Society of Naturalists. Biological series, 91 (2): 55?58. [In Russian] And who can provide me a digital copy of Sack, P. 1931. Die Fliegen der Palearctischen region 31 (451p). Tanks in advance! With kindly regards Leendert-Jan van der Ent -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: