[Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001

Mon Jan 11 08:57:38 GMT 2016

Thanks a lot Frank!  :)

Ximo

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2016-01-11 9:16 GMT+01:00 Frank Dziock <dziock at htw-dresden.de>:

>
> Hi Steven and others,
>
> very nice to see that Dasysyrphus is still en vogue ;-)
>
> Thinking from the hoverfly community perspective, it would be very good,
> if the people working on Dasysyrphus (Steven, Robert, Dieter, Jeff and
> surely many others) could make a joint effort.
>
> Please do not decribe single "new" Dasysyrphus species. Please try to
> achieve a thorough revision of at least the Western Palaearctic area
> (Holarctic would be better, though ;-)).
>
> Otherwise I fear we would have to deal with a mess of old names, new
> names, synonyms etc. for many years. We already had that in some other
> genera, and I think it would be time to join forces and prevent such things.
>
> All the best and good chance,
>
> Frank
>
> P.S.: Ximo, the Chrysotoxum paper is in the attachment
>
>
>
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>
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> Am 10.01.2016 um 10:43 schrieb Steven Falk:
>
> Its definitely one taxa Robert, variation in stigma colour etc is just
> down to lighting conditions and mode of photography. All material has
> yellow bars reaching the side margin. But I've been recording 'venusta' for
> years (I've been recording syrphids since 1975) and am prettyu good at
> spotting when something is not right - as is the case here. I'll check the
> ventral side when I get a moment,
>
> Steven
>
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> <syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf Of *Robert Zóralski
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> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
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> To supplement previous email. It is not obvious from pictures if the first
> dark male has bands on tergites reaching sides or not. In case it is small
> specimen and sides not reaching - good candidate for D. nigritarsis. I
> would not be surprise if you have this species in northern Scotland.
>
> Robert
>
> 2016-01-09 22:25 GMT+01:00 Robert Żóralski <robert at insects.pl>:
>
>> Hi Steven,
>>
>> Depending on what you believe D. venustus is... ;)
>>
>> Nothing sure base on pictures, but I do not think you show one species
>> under the link. I mean the last pictures of the female with yellowish
>> pterostigma, yellow hind tibiae and fuzzy dusting on frons is something
>> different the first the pair (dark males and female presented at the
>> beginning of the gallery).
>>
>> Do you have any picture of ventral side of those specimens? Is that
>> narrow equally broad band (in females only) or rather triangle-like dark
>> spots in both sexes?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Robert
>>
>> 2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk < <steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk>
>> steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk>:
>>
>>> Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure
>>> I've got a new (at least to Britain) *Dasysyrphus *that is very close
>>> to *venustus* (alongside which it was flying). It averages darker,
>>> smaller, narrow bands on the tergites, male frons much darker, female frons
>>> with much smaller dust spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas
>>> in late May-early June 2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and*
>>> Salix* was still in blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided some
>>> info, but interested to hear what others think. See this link for images:
>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200@N07/sets/72157634414191644/>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200@N07/sets/72157634414191644/
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>>> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *ximo mengual
>>> sanchis
>>> *Sent:* 08 January 2016 16:20
>>> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
>>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
>>>
>>> Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
>>> (Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale
>>> di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
>>>
>>> I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
>>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>>
>>> Ximo
>>>
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