From cyrille.dussaix at orange.fr Wed Jan 6 19:56:55 2016
From: cyrille.dussaix at orange.fr (Cyrille DUSSAIX)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 20:56:55 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Publication
Message-ID: <568D7187.3070808@orange.fr>
Hi,
I research : Kula, E. (1983) - The larva and puparium of Eriozona
syrphoides (Fall?n) (Diptera, Syrphidae) - Acta Ent. Bohem. 80, 71-73.
Thanks
Happy New Year 2016 8-)
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From lukasz at insects.pl Wed Jan 6 20:07:31 2016
From: lukasz at insects.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz_Mielczarek?=)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 21:07:31 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Publication
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Hello Cyrille,
Archive of journal is now online here
http://kramerius.lib.cas.cz/search/i.jsp?pid=uuid:b4d5a20a-148b-11e1-9c33-005056a60003
Regards,
?ukasz
2016-01-06 20:56 GMT+01:00 Cyrille DUSSAIX :
> Hi,
> I research : Kula, E. (1983) - The larva and puparium of Eriozona
> syrphoides (Fall?n) (Diptera, Syrphidae) - Acta Ent. Bohem. 80, 71-73.
> Thanks
>
> Happy New Year 2016 8-)
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From kurt.jordaens at africamuseum.be Thu Jan 7 08:15:12 2016
From: kurt.jordaens at africamuseum.be (Jordaens Kurt)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 08:15:12 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Publication
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Hi Cyrille,
Here it is.
cheers,
kurt
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Subject: [Syrphidae] Publication
Hi,
I research : Kula, E. (1983) - The larva and puparium of Eriozona syrphoides (Fall?n) (Diptera, Syrphidae) - Acta Ent. Bohem. 80, 71-73.
Thanks
Happy New Year 2016 8-)
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From xmengual at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 16:20:18 2016
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 17:20:18 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
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Dear all,
Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
(Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale
di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
Many thanks!
Ximo
********************************************************
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Head of the Diptera Section
Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
Adenauerallee 160
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From steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk Fri Jan 8 17:19:41 2016
From: steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk (Steven Falk)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 17:19:41 -0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
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Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure I've
got a new (at least to Britain) Dasysyrphus that is very close to venustus
(alongside which it was flying). It averages darker, smaller, narrow bands
on the tergites, male frons much darker, female frons with much smaller dust
spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas in late May-early June
2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and Salix was still in
blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided some info, but interested to
hear what others think. See this link for images:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
All the best,
Steven
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www.stevenfalk.co.uk
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[mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ximo mengual
sanchis
Sent: 08 January 2016 16:20
To: Hoverfly discussion list
Subject: [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
Dear all,
Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
(Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale di
Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
Many thanks!
Ximo
********************************************************
Dr. Ximo Mengual
Head of the Diptera Section
Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
Adenauerallee 160
D-53113 Bonn, Germany
Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
ZFMK web
https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/
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From j.van.steenis at xmsnet.nl Fri Jan 8 18:23:12 2016
From: j.van.steenis at xmsnet.nl (Jeroen van Steenis)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:23:12 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
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Dear Ximo and Steven
I do have a paper copy with the publication date 31.07.2001, so I think the
2000 notation could not be right.
My scanner at home is not too good as is the paper copy so either the scan
will be unreadable or very large. I try to scan it somewhere else, but this
could take some time.
The exsistance of additional species close to Dasysyrphus venustus is known
for many years, at least in Scandinavia there are two additional species.
Unfortunately there are many synonyms and the latest described species from
Poland is most likely a new synonym too. What I know is that Dieter
Doczkal has been working on this group. So best to ask him for more
information.
Best wishes,
Jeroen.
2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk :
> Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure I've
> got a new (at least to Britain) *Dasysyrphus *that is very close to
> *venustus* (alongside which it was flying). It averages darker, smaller,
> narrow bands on the tergites, male frons much darker, female frons with
> much smaller dust spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas in
> late May-early June 2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and*
> Salix* was still in blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided some
> info, but interested to hear what others think. See this link for images:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
>
> All the best,
>
> Steven
>
>
> Steven Falk
> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>
> Help Our Bees: http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>
> Flickr Image library at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *ximo mengual
> sanchis
> *Sent:* 08 January 2016 16:20
> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>
> Dear all,
>
> Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
>
> Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
> (Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale
> di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
>
> I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Ximo
>
>
> ********************************************************
> Dr. Ximo Mengual
> Head of the Diptera Section
> Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
> Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
> Adenauerallee 160
> D-53113 Bonn, Germany
> Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
> ZFMK web
>
> https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/
>
>
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From robert at insects.pl Sat Jan 9 21:25:37 2016
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 22:25:37 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
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Hi Steven,
Depending on what you believe D. venustus is... ;)
Nothing sure base on pictures, but I do not think you show one species
under the link. I mean the last pictures of the female with yellowish
pterostigma, yellow hind tibiae and fuzzy dusting on frons is something
different the first the pair (dark males and female presented at the
beginning of the gallery).
Do you have any picture of ventral side of those specimens? Is that narrow
equally broad band (in females only) or rather triangle-like dark spots in
both sexes?
Cheers
Robert
2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk :
> Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure I've
> got a new (at least to Britain) *Dasysyrphus *that is very close to
> *venustus* (alongside which it was flying). It averages darker, smaller,
> narrow bands on the tergites, male frons much darker, female frons with
> much smaller dust spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas in
> late May-early June 2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and*
> Salix* was still in blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided some
> info, but interested to hear what others think. See this link for images:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
>
> All the best,
>
> Steven
>
>
> Steven Falk
> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>
> Help Our Bees: http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>
> Flickr Image library at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *ximo mengual
> sanchis
> *Sent:* 08 January 2016 16:20
> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>
> Dear all,
>
> Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
>
> Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
> (Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale
> di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
>
> I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Ximo
>
>
> ********************************************************
> Dr. Ximo Mengual
> Head of the Diptera Section
> Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
> Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
> Adenauerallee 160
> D-53113 Bonn, Germany
> Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
> ZFMK web
>
> https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/
>
>
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From robert at insects.pl Sat Jan 9 21:39:20 2016
From: robert at insects.pl (=?UTF-8?B?Um9iZXJ0IMW7w7NyYWxza2k=?=)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 22:39:20 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
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To supplement previous email. It is not obvious from pictures if the first
dark male has bands on tergites reaching sides or not. In case it is small
specimen and sides not reaching - good candidate for D. nigritarsis. I
would not be surprise if you have this species in northern Scotland.
Robert
2016-01-09 22:25 GMT+01:00 Robert ??ralski :
> Hi Steven,
>
> Depending on what you believe D. venustus is... ;)
>
> Nothing sure base on pictures, but I do not think you show one species
> under the link. I mean the last pictures of the female with yellowish
> pterostigma, yellow hind tibiae and fuzzy dusting on frons is something
> different the first the pair (dark males and female presented at the
> beginning of the gallery).
>
> Do you have any picture of ventral side of those specimens? Is that narrow
> equally broad band (in females only) or rather triangle-like dark spots in
> both sexes?
>
> Cheers
> Robert
>
> 2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk :
>
>> Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure I've
>> got a new (at least to Britain) *Dasysyrphus *that is very close to
>> *venustus* (alongside which it was flying). It averages darker, smaller,
>> narrow bands on the tergites, male frons much darker, female frons with
>> much smaller dust spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas in
>> late May-early June 2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and*
>> Salix* was still in blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided some
>> info, but interested to hear what others think. See this link for images:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
>> Steven Falk
>> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
>> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
>> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>>
>> Help Our Bees: http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>>
>> Flickr Image library at:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *ximo mengual
>> sanchis
>> *Sent:* 08 January 2016 16:20
>> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
>>
>> Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
>> (Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale
>> di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
>>
>> I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
>> Ximo
>>
>>
>> ********************************************************
>> Dr. Ximo Mengual
>> Head of the Diptera Section
>> Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
>> Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
>> Adenauerallee 160
>> D-53113 Bonn, Germany
>> Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
>> ZFMK web
>>
>> https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/
>>
>>
>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee
>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this
>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.
>>
>> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this
>> message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the
>> author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the
>> University of Nottingham.
>>
>> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an
>> attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your
>> computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email
>> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as
>> permitted by UK legislation.
>>
>>
>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee
>> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this
>> message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.
>>
>> Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this
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>> author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the
>> University of Nottingham.
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From steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk Sun Jan 10 09:43:56 2016
From: steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk (Steven Falk)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:43:56 -0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
In-Reply-To:
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Its definitely one taxa Robert, variation in stigma colour etc is just down
to lighting conditions and mode of photography. All material has yellow bars
reaching the side margin. But I've been recording 'venusta' for years (I've
been recording syrphids since 1975) and am prettyu good at spotting when
something is not right - as is the case here. I'll check the ventral side
when I get a moment,
Steven
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[mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Robert
Z?ralski
Sent: 09 January 2016 21:39
To: Hoverfly discussion list
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
To supplement previous email. It is not obvious from pictures if the first
dark male has bands on tergites reaching sides or not. In case it is small
specimen and sides not reaching - good candidate for D. nigritarsis. I would
not be surprise if you have this species in northern Scotland.
Robert
2016-01-09 22:25 GMT+01:00 Robert ??ralski :
Hi Steven,
Depending on what you believe D. venustus is... ;)
Nothing sure base on pictures, but I do not think you show one species under
the link. I mean the last pictures of the female with yellowish pterostigma,
yellow hind tibiae and fuzzy dusting on frons is something different the
first the pair (dark males and female presented at the beginning of the
gallery).
Do you have any picture of ventral side of those specimens? Is that narrow
equally broad band (in females only) or rather triangle-like dark spots in
both sexes?
Cheers
Robert
2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk :
Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure I've
got a new (at least to Britain) Dasysyrphus that is very close to venustus
(alongside which it was flying). It averages darker, smaller, narrow bands
on the tergites, male frons much darker, female frons with much smaller dust
spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas in late May-early June
2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and Salix was still in
blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided some info, but interested to
hear what others think. See this link for images:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
All the best,
Steven
Steven Falk
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www.stevenfalk.co.uk
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[mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ximo mengual
sanchis
Sent: 08 January 2016 16:20
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Subject: [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
Dear all,
Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
(Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale di
Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
Many thanks!
Ximo
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Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
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From: dziock at htw-dresden.de (Frank Dziock)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:16:33 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
In-Reply-To:
References:
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Hi Steven and others,
very nice to see that Dasysyrphus is still en vogue ;-)
Thinking from the hoverfly community perspective, it would be very good,
if the people working on Dasysyrphus (Steven, Robert, Dieter, Jeff and
surely many others) could make a joint effort.
Please do not decribe single "new" Dasysyrphus species. Please try to
achieve a thorough revision of at least the Western Palaearctic area
(Holarctic would be better, though ;-)).
Otherwise I fear we would have to deal with a mess of old names, new
names, synonyms etc. for many years. We already had that in some other
genera, and I think it would be time to join forces and prevent such things.
All the best and good chance,
Frank
P.S.: Ximo, the Chrysotoxum paper is in the attachment
Am 10.01.2016 um 10:43 schrieb Steven Falk:
> Its definitely one taxa Robert, variation in stigma colour etc is just
> down to lighting conditions and mode of photography. All material has
> yellow bars reaching the side margin. But I've been recording
> 'venusta' for years (I've been recording syrphids since 1975) and am
> prettyu good at spotting when something is not right - as is the case
> here. I'll check the ventral side when I get a moment,
>
> Steven
>
> Steven Falk
> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>
> Help Our Bees: http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Robert Z?ralski
> *Sent:* 09 January 2016 21:39
> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>
> To supplement previous email. It is not obvious from pictures if the
> first dark male has bands on tergites reaching sides or not. In case
> it is small specimen and sides not reaching - good candidate for D.
> nigritarsis. I would not be surprise if you have this species in
> northern Scotland.
>
> Robert
>
> 2016-01-09 22:25 GMT+01:00 Robert ??ralski >:
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> Depending on what you believe D. venustus is... ;)
>
> Nothing sure base on pictures, but I do not think you show one
> species under the link. I mean the last pictures of the female
> with yellowish pterostigma, yellow hind tibiae and fuzzy dusting
> on frons is something different the first the pair (dark males and
> female presented at the beginning of the gallery).
>
> Do you have any picture of ventral side of those specimens? Is
> that narrow equally broad band (in females only) or rather
> triangle-like dark spots in both sexes?
>
> Cheers
> Robert
>
> 2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk >:
>
> Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm
> pretty sure I've got a new (at least to Britain) /Dasysyrphus
> /that is very close to /venustus/ (alongside which it was
> flying). It averages darker, smaller, narrow bands on the
> tergites, male frons much darker, female frons with much
> smaller dust spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood
> areas in late May-early June 2013, when spring was delayed by
> 4-5 weeks (and/Salix/ was still in blossom!). Martin Speight
> has already provided some info, but interested to hear what
> others think. See this link for images:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
>
> All the best,
>
> Steven
>
>
> Steven Falk
> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>
> Help Our Bees: http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
>
>
>
>
>
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> [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> ] *On Behalf
> Of *ximo mengual sanchis
> *Sent:* 08 January 2016 16:20
> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>
> Dear all,
>
> Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
>
> Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum
> Meigen, 1822 (Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos.
> -Bollettino Museo Regionale di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18:
> 115-127.
>
> I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and
> 2001.
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Ximo
>
>
> ********************************************************
> Dr. Ximo Mengual
> Head of the Diptera Section
> Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
> Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
> Adenauerallee 160
> D-53113 Bonn, Germany
> Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
> ZFMK web
>
> https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/
>
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From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:57:38 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
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Thanks a lot Frank! :)
Ximo
********************************************************
Dr. Ximo Mengual
Head of the Diptera Section
Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
Adenauerallee 160
D-53113 Bonn, Germany
Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
ZFMK web
https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/
2016-01-11 9:16 GMT+01:00 Frank Dziock :
>
> Hi Steven and others,
>
> very nice to see that Dasysyrphus is still en vogue ;-)
>
> Thinking from the hoverfly community perspective, it would be very good,
> if the people working on Dasysyrphus (Steven, Robert, Dieter, Jeff and
> surely many others) could make a joint effort.
>
> Please do not decribe single "new" Dasysyrphus species. Please try to
> achieve a thorough revision of at least the Western Palaearctic area
> (Holarctic would be better, though ;-)).
>
> Otherwise I fear we would have to deal with a mess of old names, new
> names, synonyms etc. for many years. We already had that in some other
> genera, and I think it would be time to join forces and prevent such things.
>
> All the best and good chance,
>
> Frank
>
> P.S.: Ximo, the Chrysotoxum paper is in the attachment
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 10.01.2016 um 10:43 schrieb Steven Falk:
>
> Its definitely one taxa Robert, variation in stigma colour etc is just
> down to lighting conditions and mode of photography. All material has
> yellow bars reaching the side margin. But I've been recording 'venusta' for
> years (I've been recording syrphids since 1975) and am prettyu good at
> spotting when something is not right - as is the case here. I'll check the
> ventral side when I get a moment,
>
> Steven
>
> Steven Falk
> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>
> Help Our Bees:
> http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>
> Flickr Image library at:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> ] *On Behalf Of *Robert Z?ralski
> *Sent:* 09 January 2016 21:39
> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>
> To supplement previous email. It is not obvious from pictures if the first
> dark male has bands on tergites reaching sides or not. In case it is small
> specimen and sides not reaching - good candidate for D. nigritarsis. I
> would not be surprise if you have this species in northern Scotland.
>
> Robert
>
> 2016-01-09 22:25 GMT+01:00 Robert ??ralski :
>
>> Hi Steven,
>>
>> Depending on what you believe D. venustus is... ;)
>>
>> Nothing sure base on pictures, but I do not think you show one species
>> under the link. I mean the last pictures of the female with yellowish
>> pterostigma, yellow hind tibiae and fuzzy dusting on frons is something
>> different the first the pair (dark males and female presented at the
>> beginning of the gallery).
>>
>> Do you have any picture of ventral side of those specimens? Is that
>> narrow equally broad band (in females only) or rather triangle-like dark
>> spots in both sexes?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Robert
>>
>> 2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk <
>> steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk>:
>>
>>> Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure
>>> I've got a new (at least to Britain) *Dasysyrphus *that is very close
>>> to *venustus* (alongside which it was flying). It averages darker,
>>> smaller, narrow bands on the tergites, male frons much darker, female frons
>>> with much smaller dust spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas
>>> in late May-early June 2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and*
>>> Salix* was still in blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided some
>>> info, but interested to hear what others think. See this link for images:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Falk
>>> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
>>> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
>>> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>>>
>>> Help Our Bees: http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>>>
>>> Flickr Image library at:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>>> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *ximo mengual
>>> sanchis
>>> *Sent:* 08 January 2016 16:20
>>> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
>>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
>>>
>>> Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
>>> (Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale
>>> di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
>>>
>>> I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
>>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>>
>>> Ximo
>>>
>>>
>>> ********************************************************
>>> Dr. Ximo Mengual
>>> Head of the Diptera Section
>>> Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
>>> Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
>>> Adenauerallee 160
>>> D-53113 Bonn, Germany
>>> Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
>>> ZFMK web
>>>
>>> https://www.bolgermany.de/ |
>>> http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/
>>>
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 22:54:25 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
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Hello Frank,
I'd be glad to join current efforts and share concepts and data for
Dasysyprhus, especially that the mess we have in the genus does not provide
a safe bed for even simple faunistic works for any of us. But not sure in
the scope of specific Dasysyrphus problems I can add anything super smart.
The main reason is that despite years of tries, none was able to resolve
some basic problems of this genus in Palearctic. Intraspecific variability
and borders of some common known/named species has to be clarified first
(if possible) and some basic doubts resolved (e.g. what exactly D.
lenensis, D. postclaviger, D. hilaris and D. venustus is) to let us all
understand and _see_ species properly. Then the complete revision of the
material (incl. types) and names stabilization makes any sense. For sure
new tools are now available (genetics, wings morphometry) to test
hypothesis.
You know that similar problems are still open in Eupeodes, Pipiza,
Melanostoma, Xanthogramma, some Cheilosia etc. ;)
To clarify, I am personally not a big fan of creating new names if that is
not really needed, especially in situation the complex ("venustus" we
discuss in this case) has characters between "species" overlapping, the
difference in genitalia not obvious/visible, and some darker specimens low
in number exists (especially from mountain and northern areas) that does
not help in clarification/stabilization of the whole "group". I think we
should keep on trying (that is just the beauty of science) and discuss as
much as possible rather than sit in silence. +1 for the proposed approach.
I am personally afraid Dasysyrphus cannot be resolved "at once" (as one
revision).
Robert
2016-01-11 9:16 GMT+01:00 Frank Dziock :
>
> Hi Steven and others,
>
> very nice to see that Dasysyrphus is still en vogue ;-)
>
> Thinking from the hoverfly community perspective, it would be very good,
> if the people working on Dasysyrphus (Steven, Robert, Dieter, Jeff and
> surely many others) could make a joint effort.
>
> Please do not decribe single "new" Dasysyrphus species. Please try to
> achieve a thorough revision of at least the Western Palaearctic area
> (Holarctic would be better, though ;-)).
>
> Otherwise I fear we would have to deal with a mess of old names, new
> names, synonyms etc. for many years. We already had that in some other
> genera, and I think it would be time to join forces and prevent such things.
>
> All the best and good chance,
>
> Frank
>
> P.S.: Ximo, the Chrysotoxum paper is in the attachment
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 10.01.2016 um 10:43 schrieb Steven Falk:
>
> Its definitely one taxa Robert, variation in stigma colour etc is just
> down to lighting conditions and mode of photography. All material has
> yellow bars reaching the side margin. But I've been recording 'venusta' for
> years (I've been recording syrphids since 1975) and am prettyu good at
> spotting when something is not right - as is the case here. I'll check the
> ventral side when I get a moment,
>
> Steven
>
> Steven Falk
> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>
> Help Our Bees:
> http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>
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>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> ] *On Behalf Of *Robert Z?ralski
> *Sent:* 09 January 2016 21:39
> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>
> To supplement previous email. It is not obvious from pictures if the first
> dark male has bands on tergites reaching sides or not. In case it is small
> specimen and sides not reaching - good candidate for D. nigritarsis. I
> would not be surprise if you have this species in northern Scotland.
>
> Robert
>
> 2016-01-09 22:25 GMT+01:00 Robert ??ralski :
>
>> Hi Steven,
>>
>> Depending on what you believe D. venustus is... ;)
>>
>> Nothing sure base on pictures, but I do not think you show one species
>> under the link. I mean the last pictures of the female with yellowish
>> pterostigma, yellow hind tibiae and fuzzy dusting on frons is something
>> different the first the pair (dark males and female presented at the
>> beginning of the gallery).
>>
>> Do you have any picture of ventral side of those specimens? Is that
>> narrow equally broad band (in females only) or rather triangle-like dark
>> spots in both sexes?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Robert
>>
>> 2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk <
>> steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk>:
>>
>>> Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure
>>> I've got a new (at least to Britain) *Dasysyrphus *that is very close
>>> to *venustus* (alongside which it was flying). It averages darker,
>>> smaller, narrow bands on the tergites, male frons much darker, female frons
>>> with much smaller dust spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas
>>> in late May-early June 2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and*
>>> Salix* was still in blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided some
>>> info, but interested to hear what others think. See this link for images:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Falk
>>> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
>>> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
>>> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>>>
>>> Help Our Bees: http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>>> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *ximo mengual
>>> sanchis
>>> *Sent:* 08 January 2016 16:20
>>> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
>>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
>>>
>>> Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
>>> (Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale
>>> di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
>>>
>>> I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
>>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>>
>>> Ximo
>>>
>>>
>>> ********************************************************
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>>> Head of the Diptera Section
>>> Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
>>> Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
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>>> D-53113 Bonn, Germany
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From: phycus at gmail.com (Martin Hauser)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:26:23 -0800
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
In-Reply-To:
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Locke (2013), who did an enormous amount of sequencing combined with
morphology, shows that even with a lot of new tools, the genus Dasysyrphus
can not be completely solved. And she focused on the New World species....
But if somebody wants to attack this genus again, in a joint effort, I am
willing to give material (Nearctic and East Palaearctic, mainly South
Korea), but I don't want to be part of the project (too many other things
to solve)...
Cheers
Martin
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Robert ??ralski wrote:
> Hello Frank,
>
> I'd be glad to join current efforts and share concepts and data for
> Dasysyprhus, especially that the mess we have in the genus does not provide
> a safe bed for even simple faunistic works for any of us. But not sure in
> the scope of specific Dasysyrphus problems I can add anything super smart.
> The main reason is that despite years of tries, none was able to resolve
> some basic problems of this genus in Palearctic. Intraspecific variability
> and borders of some common known/named species has to be clarified first
> (if possible) and some basic doubts resolved (e.g. what exactly D.
> lenensis, D. postclaviger, D. hilaris and D. venustus is) to let us all
> understand and _see_ species properly. Then the complete revision of the
> material (incl. types) and names stabilization makes any sense. For sure
> new tools are now available (genetics, wings morphometry) to test
> hypothesis.
>
> You know that similar problems are still open in Eupeodes, Pipiza,
> Melanostoma, Xanthogramma, some Cheilosia etc. ;)
>
> To clarify, I am personally not a big fan of creating new names if that is
> not really needed, especially in situation the complex ("venustus" we
> discuss in this case) has characters between "species" overlapping, the
> difference in genitalia not obvious/visible, and some darker specimens low
> in number exists (especially from mountain and northern areas) that does
> not help in clarification/stabilization of the whole "group". I think we
> should keep on trying (that is just the beauty of science) and discuss as
> much as possible rather than sit in silence. +1 for the proposed approach.
> I am personally afraid Dasysyrphus cannot be resolved "at once" (as one
> revision).
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> 2016-01-11 9:16 GMT+01:00 Frank Dziock :
>
>>
>> Hi Steven and others,
>>
>> very nice to see that Dasysyrphus is still en vogue ;-)
>>
>> Thinking from the hoverfly community perspective, it would be very good,
>> if the people working on Dasysyrphus (Steven, Robert, Dieter, Jeff and
>> surely many others) could make a joint effort.
>>
>> Please do not decribe single "new" Dasysyrphus species. Please try to
>> achieve a thorough revision of at least the Western Palaearctic area
>> (Holarctic would be better, though ;-)).
>>
>> Otherwise I fear we would have to deal with a mess of old names, new
>> names, synonyms etc. for many years. We already had that in some other
>> genera, and I think it would be time to join forces and prevent such things.
>>
>> All the best and good chance,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> P.S.: Ximo, the Chrysotoxum paper is in the attachment
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 10.01.2016 um 10:43 schrieb Steven Falk:
>>
>> Its definitely one taxa Robert, variation in stigma colour etc is just
>> down to lighting conditions and mode of photography. All material has
>> yellow bars reaching the side margin. But I've been recording 'venusta' for
>> years (I've been recording syrphids since 1975) and am prettyu good at
>> spotting when something is not right - as is the case here. I'll check the
>> ventral side when I get a moment,
>>
>> Steven
>>
>> Steven Falk
>> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
>> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
>> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>>
>> Help Our Bees:
>> http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>>
>> Flickr Image library at:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
>> mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Robert
>> Z?ralski
>> *Sent:* 09 January 2016 21:39
>> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>>
>> To supplement previous email. It is not obvious from pictures if the
>> first dark male has bands on tergites reaching sides or not. In case it is
>> small specimen and sides not reaching - good candidate for D. nigritarsis.
>> I would not be surprise if you have this species in northern Scotland.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> 2016-01-09 22:25 GMT+01:00 Robert ??ralski :
>>
>>> Hi Steven,
>>>
>>> Depending on what you believe D. venustus is... ;)
>>>
>>> Nothing sure base on pictures, but I do not think you show one species
>>> under the link. I mean the last pictures of the female with yellowish
>>> pterostigma, yellow hind tibiae and fuzzy dusting on frons is something
>>> different the first the pair (dark males and female presented at the
>>> beginning of the gallery).
>>>
>>> Do you have any picture of ventral side of those specimens? Is that
>>> narrow equally broad band (in females only) or rather triangle-like dark
>>> spots in both sexes?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> 2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk <
>>> steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk>:
>>>
>>>> Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure
>>>> I've got a new (at least to Britain) *Dasysyrphus *that is very close
>>>> to *venustus* (alongside which it was flying). It averages darker,
>>>> smaller, narrow bands on the tergites, male frons much darker, female frons
>>>> with much smaller dust spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas
>>>> in late May-early June 2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and*
>>>> Salix* was still in blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided
>>>> some info, but interested to hear what others think. See this link for
>>>> images:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Steven
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steven Falk
>>>> Entomologist-Artist-Photographer
>>>> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
>>>> mobile: 0781 555 7263
>>>>
>>>> Help Our Bees: http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/help-our-bees
>>>>
>>>> Flickr Image library at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>>>> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *ximo mengual
>>>> sanchis
>>>> *Sent:* 08 January 2016 16:20
>>>> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
>>>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
>>>>
>>>> Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
>>>> (Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale
>>>> di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
>>>>
>>>> I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Ximo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ********************************************************
>>>> Dr. Ximo Mengual
>>>> Head of the Diptera Section
>>>> Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
>>>> Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
>>>> Adenauerallee 160
>>>> D-53113 Bonn, Germany
>>>> Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
>>>> ZFMK web
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bolgermany.de/ |
>>>> http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/
>>>>
>>>>
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From: Stefan.Pruner at student.uibk.ac.at (Stefan Pruner)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:39:06 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
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Dear all!
When I read through the weak or non existent traits mentioned by a few
of you, the idea or question comes to my mind if those Dasysyrphus
species with confusing inter- and intraspecific variations mentioned
before maybe exhibit hybridisations, and we witness a process of
speciation. If so, all efforts to destile "true" species out of the
material present could in my opinion become near to impossible. I
don't have experience in molecular methods, maybe there is a way, for
which we have to look even deeper into sequencing (and after getting
back results define morphological features to discern the species).
Maybe the venustus-complex comprises of only one species with a very
broad variety, maybe there are x cryptic species hidden inside.
Thanks for the discussion!
Stefan
Zitat von Martin Hauser :
> Locke (2013), who did an enormous amount of sequencing combined with
> morphology, shows that even with a lot of new tools, the genus Dasysyrphus
> can not be completely solved. And she focused on the New World species....
> But if somebody wants to attack this genus again, in a joint effort, I am
> willing to give material (Nearctic and East Palaearctic, mainly South
> Korea), but I don't want to be part of the project (too many other things
> to solve)...
> Cheers
> Martin
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Robert ??ralski wrote:
>
>> Hello Frank,
>>
>> I'd be glad to join current efforts and share concepts and data for
>> Dasysyprhus, especially that the mess we have in the genus does not provide
>> a safe bed for even simple faunistic works for any of us. But not sure in
>> the scope of specific Dasysyrphus problems I can add anything super smart.
>> The main reason is that despite years of tries, none was able to resolve
>> some basic problems of this genus in Palearctic. Intraspecific variability
>> and borders of some common known/named species has to be clarified first
>> (if possible) and some basic doubts resolved (e.g. what exactly D.
>> lenensis, D. postclaviger, D. hilaris and D. venustus is) to let us all
>> understand and _see_ species properly. Then the complete revision of the
>> material (incl. types) and names stabilization makes any sense. For sure
>> new tools are now available (genetics, wings morphometry) to test
>> hypothesis.
>>
>> You know that similar problems are still open in Eupeodes, Pipiza,
>> Melanostoma, Xanthogramma, some Cheilosia etc. ;)
>>
>> To clarify, I am personally not a big fan of creating new names if that is
>> not really needed, especially in situation the complex ("venustus" we
>> discuss in this case) has characters between "species" overlapping, the
>> difference in genitalia not obvious/visible, and some darker specimens low
>> in number exists (especially from mountain and northern areas) that does
>> not help in clarification/stabilization of the whole "group". I think we
>> should keep on trying (that is just the beauty of science) and discuss as
>> much as possible rather than sit in silence. +1 for the proposed approach.
>> I am personally afraid Dasysyrphus cannot be resolved "at once" (as one
>> revision).
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-01-11 9:16 GMT+01:00 Frank Dziock :
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Steven and others,
>>>
>>> very nice to see that Dasysyrphus is still en vogue ;-)
>>>
>>> Thinking from the hoverfly community perspective, it would be very good,
>>> if the people working on Dasysyrphus (Steven, Robert, Dieter, Jeff and
>>> surely many others) could make a joint effort.
>>>
>>> Please do not decribe single "new" Dasysyrphus species. Please try to
>>> achieve a thorough revision of at least the Western Palaearctic area
>>> (Holarctic would be better, though ;-)).
>>>
>>> Otherwise I fear we would have to deal with a mess of old names, new
>>> names, synonyms etc. for many years. We already had that in some other
>>> genera, and I think it would be time to join forces and prevent
>>> such things.
>>>
>>> All the best and good chance,
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> P.S.: Ximo, the Chrysotoxum paper is in the attachment
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 10.01.2016 um 10:43 schrieb Steven Falk:
>>>
>>> Its definitely one taxa Robert, variation in stigma colour etc is just
>>> down to lighting conditions and mode of photography. All material has
>>> yellow bars reaching the side margin. But I've been recording 'venusta' for
>>> years (I've been recording syrphids since 1975) and am prettyu good at
>>> spotting when something is not right - as is the case here. I'll check the
>>> ventral side when I get a moment,
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
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>>> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
>>> mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> ] *On Behalf Of *Robert
>>> Z?ralski
>>> *Sent:* 09 January 2016 21:39
>>> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
>>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] Re: PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>>>
>>> To supplement previous email. It is not obvious from pictures if the
>>> first dark male has bands on tergites reaching sides or not. In case it is
>>> small specimen and sides not reaching - good candidate for D. nigritarsis.
>>> I would not be surprise if you have this species in northern Scotland.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> 2016-01-09 22:25 GMT+01:00 Robert ??ralski :
>>>
>>>> Hi Steven,
>>>>
>>>> Depending on what you believe D. venustus is... ;)
>>>>
>>>> Nothing sure base on pictures, but I do not think you show one species
>>>> under the link. I mean the last pictures of the female with yellowish
>>>> pterostigma, yellow hind tibiae and fuzzy dusting on frons is something
>>>> different the first the pair (dark males and female presented at the
>>>> beginning of the gallery).
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any picture of ventral side of those specimens? Is that
>>>> narrow equally broad band (in females only) or rather triangle-like dark
>>>> spots in both sexes?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> 2016-01-08 18:19 GMT+01:00 Steven Falk <
>>>> steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk>:
>>>>
>>>>> Afraid not Ximo, but whilst we are talking Syrphini, I'm pretty sure
>>>>> I've got a new (at least to Britain) *Dasysyrphus *that is very close
>>>>> to *venustus* (alongside which it was flying). It averages darker,
>>>>> smaller, narrow bands on the tergites, male frons much darker,
>>>>> female frons
>>>>> with much smaller dust spots. It was from Scottsih native pine wood areas
>>>>> in late May-early June 2013, when spring was delayed by 4-5 weeks (and*
>>>>> Salix* was still in blossom!). Martin Speight has already provided
>>>>> some info, but interested to hear what others think. See this link for
>>>>> images:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/sets/72157634414191644/
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Steven
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steven Falk
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> *From:* syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>>>>> syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *ximo mengual
>>>>> sanchis
>>>>> *Sent:* 08 January 2016 16:20
>>>>> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list
>>>>> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] PDF request - Sommaggio 2001
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does someone has a pdf of the following paper?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sommaggio, D. 2001. The species of the genus Chrysotoxum Meigen, 1822
>>>>> (Diptera, Syrphidae) described by Giglio Tos. -Bollettino Museo Regionale
>>>>> di Scienze Naturali, Torino, 18: 115-127.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have seen two publication years in the literature: 2000 and 2001.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ximo
>>>>>
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From malin.thyselius at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 15:32:37 2016
From: malin.thyselius at gmail.com (Malin)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 16:32:37 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Paper request
Message-ID: <55D6C941-306F-4B88-992B-0E69A7128C43@gmail.com>
Hi,
Does anyone have the paper Vision during flight by Collett and King from 1975?
Kind Regards
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From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Mon Jan 25 15:34:39 2016
From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:34:39 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Paper request
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not very good copy, I'm afraid!
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From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 17:24:17 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Chrysotoxum hameleon
Message-ID:
Dear all,
any one has a pdf to share of the following article?
Violovitsh, N. A. 1973. The new palaearctic species of the genus
Chrysotoxum Mg. (Diptera, Syrphidae). Nov. mal. vidy Faun. Sibir. 6:
99-102. [In Russian, English Summary]
Thank you very much!
Ximo
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Subject: [Syrphidae] Jennifer Owen
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Dear all
In case you are not already aware, Dr Jennifer Owen died just before Christmas. She was an amazing person, whose dedication to her work was truly humbling. Her incredible 30-year dataset from her garden, and her books and other publications, remain as a monument to her life.
Francis
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From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 22:17:01 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Chrysotoxum hamaeleon
Message-ID:
Dear all,
has any one a pdf to share of the following article?
Violovitsh, N. A. 1973. The new palaearctic species of the genus
Chrysotoxum Mg. (Diptera, Syrphidae). Nov. mal. vidy Faun. Sibir. 6:
99-102. [In Russian, English Summary]
Thank you very much!
Ximo
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 07:17:10 +0300
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: =?utf-8?q?Chrysotoxum_hamaeleon?=
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Hi, Ximo!
Initially I began to prepare a copy of another article. But I found needful article.
V.
>???????, 28 ?????? 2016, 22:17 +01:00 ?? ximo mengual sanchis :
>
>Dear all,
>
>has any one a pdf to share of the following article?
>
>Violovitsh, N. A. 1973. The new palaearctic species of the genus
Chrysotoxum Mg. (Diptera, Syrphidae). Nov. mal. vidy Faun. Sibir. 6:
99-102. [In Russian, English Summary]
>
>Thank you very much!
>
>Ximo
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From phycus at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 16:25:14 2016
From: phycus at gmail.com (Martin Hauser)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:25:14 -0800
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Chrysotoxum hamaeleon
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Dear Mutin,
thanks so much...
I touch the PDF up a bit, so it is easier to read!
Best wishes,
Martin
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Mutin Valeri wrote:
> Hi, Ximo!
>
> Initially I began to prepare a copy of another article. But I found
> needful article.
>
> V.
>
>
> ???????, 28 ?????? 2016, 22:17 +01:00 ?? ximo mengual sanchis <
> xmengual at gmail.com>:
>
> Dear all,
>
> has any one a pdf to share of the following article?
>
> Violovitsh, N. A. 1973. The new palaearctic species of the genus
> Chrysotoxum Mg. (Diptera, Syrphidae). Nov. mal. vidy Faun. Sibir. 6:
> 99-102. [In Russian, English Summary]
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Ximo
>
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From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:29:59 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Chrysotoxum hamaeleon
In-Reply-To:
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Thanks Valery (and Martin),
but as I alreasy mentioned to Valery, I need the pages 99-102, where the
description of* C. hamaeleon* is.
I appreciate any help.
Best wishes,
Ximo
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Head of the Diptera Section
Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
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Adenauerallee 160
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Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292
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2016-01-29 17:25 GMT+01:00 Martin Hauser :
> Dear Mutin,
> thanks so much...
> I touch the PDF up a bit, so it is easier to read!
>
> Best wishes,
> Martin
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Mutin Valeri wrote:
>
>> Hi, Ximo!
>>
>> Initially I began to prepare a copy of another article. But I found
>> needful article.
>>
>> V.
>>
>>
>> ???????, 28 ?????? 2016, 22:17 +01:00 ?? ximo mengual sanchis <
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>> Dear all,
>>
>> has any one a pdf to share of the following article?
>>
>> Violovitsh, N. A. 1973. The new palaearctic species of the genus
>> Chrysotoxum Mg. (Diptera, Syrphidae). Nov. mal. vidy Faun. Sibir. 6:
>> 99-102. [In Russian, English Summary]
>>
>> Thank you very much!
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Dear all,
Can anyone provide me with the following publication?
Barkalov AV (2011). New data on the nomenclature and fauna of the genus Sphaerophoria Le Peletier et Serville, (1828) (Diptera, Syrphidae) from Siberia and adjacent territories. Entomological Review, 91(7), 898-907.
Thanks in advance, greetings,
Gerard
From lukasz at insects.pl Sun Jan 31 13:00:47 2016
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Hi Gerard,
Here is the publication on Sphaerophoria.
Regards,
?ukasz
2016-01-31 13:44 GMT+01:00 Gerard Pennards :
> Dear all,
> Can anyone provide me with the following publication?
>
> Barkalov AV (2011). New data on the nomenclature and fauna of the genus
> Sphaerophoria Le Peletier et Serville, (1828) (Diptera, Syrphidae) from
> Siberia and adjacent territories. Entomological Review, 91(7), 898-907.
>
> Thanks in advance, greetings,
> Gerard
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Thank you Lukasz!
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Dear all,
Can anyone provide me with the following publication?
Barkalov AV (2011). New data on the nomenclature and fauna of the genus Sphaerophoria Le Peletier et Serville, (1828) (Diptera, Syrphidae) from Siberia and adjacent territories. Entomological Review, 91(7), 898-907.
Thanks in advance, greetings,
Gerard
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Hi Gerard,
Here is the publication on Sphaerophoria.
Regards,
?ukasz
2016-01-31 13:44 GMT+01:00 Gerard Pennards :
> Dear all,
> Can anyone provide me with the following publication?
>
> Barkalov AV (2011). New data on the nomenclature and fauna of the genus
> Sphaerophoria Le Peletier et Serville, (1828) (Diptera, Syrphidae) from
> Siberia and adjacent territories. Entomological Review, 91(7), 898-907.
>
> Thanks in advance, greetings,
> Gerard
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Dear Andr?,
Yes, I have this publication, but only paper copy. I can scan it for you.
Regards,
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2016-01-31 14:40 GMT+01:00 Andr? van Eck :
> Dear ?ukasz,
>
> If you have that one, do you have this one as well (of your famous, but
> unfortunately mostly in Polish publishing hero)?
>
> Ba?kowska, R., ?Studien ?ber die pal?arktischen Arten
> der Gattung Sphaerophoria St. Fearg. et Serv. (Diptera,
> Syrphidae),? Ann. Z??l. 22 (15), 285?353 (1964).
>
> Cheers, Andr?
>
>
>
> Op 31-01-16 om 14:00 schreef ?ukasz Mielczarek:
>
> Hi Gerard,
>
> Here is the publication on Sphaerophoria.
>
> Regards,
> ?ukasz
>
> 2016-01-31 13:44 GMT+01:00 Gerard Pennards :
>
>> Dear all,
>> Can anyone provide me with the following publication?
>>
>> Barkalov AV (2011). New data on the nomenclature and fauna of the genus
>> Sphaerophoria Le Peletier et Serville, (1828) (Diptera, Syrphidae) from
>> Siberia and adjacent territories. Entomological Review, 91(7), 898-907.
>>
>> Thanks in advance, greetings,
>> Gerard
>> _______________________________________________
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That one I have for you Andre, see attachment!
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Thank you Lukasz!
That was very fast..
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Dear all,
Can anyone provide me with the following publication?
Barkalov AV (2011). New data on the nomenclature and fauna of the genus Sphaerophoria Le Peletier et Serville, (1828) (Diptera, Syrphidae) from Siberia and adjacent territories. Entomological Review, 91(7), 898-907.
Thanks in advance, greetings,
Gerard
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Hi Gerard,
Here is the publication on Sphaerophoria.
Regards,
?ukasz
2016-01-31 13:44 GMT+01:00 Gerard Pennards :
> Dear all,
> Can anyone provide me with the following publication?
>
> Barkalov AV (2011). New data on the nomenclature and fauna of the genus
> Sphaerophoria Le Peletier et Serville, (1828) (Diptera, Syrphidae) from
> Siberia and adjacent territories. Entomological Review, 91(7), 898-907.
>
> Thanks in advance, greetings,
> Gerard
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Dear Andr?,
Yes, I have this publication, but only paper copy. I can scan it for you.
Regards,
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2016-01-31 14:40 GMT+01:00 Andr? van Eck :
> Dear ?ukasz,
>
> If you have that one, do you have this one as well (of your famous, but
> unfortunately mostly in Polish publishing hero)?
>
> Ba?kowska, R., ?Studien ?ber die pal?arktischen Arten
> der Gattung Sphaerophoria St. Fearg. et Serv. (Diptera,
> Syrphidae),? Ann. Z??l. 22 (15), 285?353 (1964).
>
> Cheers, Andr?
>
>
>
> Op 31-01-16 om 14:00 schreef ?ukasz Mielczarek:
>
> Hi Gerard,
>
> Here is the publication on Sphaerophoria.
>
> Regards,
> ?ukasz
>
> 2016-01-31 13:44 GMT+01:00 Gerard Pennards :
>
>> Dear all,
>> Can anyone provide me with the following publication?
>>
>> Barkalov AV (2011). New data on the nomenclature and fauna of the genus
>> Sphaerophoria Le Peletier et Serville, (1828) (Diptera, Syrphidae) from
>> Siberia and adjacent territories. Entomological Review, 91(7), 898-907.
>>
>> Thanks in advance, greetings,
>> Gerard
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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> 31-425 Krakow, Poland
>
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