From rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in  Sat Aug  1 10:18:28 2015
From: rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in (Kumar Ghorpade)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:18:28 -0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 105, Issue 7
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First, Aijaz,that beauty is a Stratiomyidae as Ximo correctly stated and NOT a syrphid !? Basic Dipterology.Second, besides justshooting off photographs for free IDs, some idea of its locality would at leastbe an aid to any ID you (or others) require.Third, Martin Hauserappears most correct with Odontomyia Meigen,of which there are about a dozen so far named and described species from oursubcontinent (subregion) of which the one and only Enrico Brunetti? had included 10 species in his FAUNA volume(1920) with a key to separate these species.?Of these there is one O.kashmirensis Brunetti ?which could bewhat you have sent if it was taken in your Kashmir where you are located ? ?Guessing !?Finally, these ?Soldier Flies? are absolutelybeautiful creatures distinctively marked and with an array of morphologicalvariations. ?Rudolf Rozkosny may be ableto help.? Your mail made me check my collectionof four schmitt boxes full of pinned and labelled Indian Stratiomyidae? and there I found some specimens with IDlabels.? Very long ago Dr Erwin Lindnerhad ?graciously sent me some Europeanflies with labels in order to familiarize me with some genera that are common toEurope and India, when I had asked for such help.? Norm Woodley also had sent IDs of somespecimens I had sent him some 30 years ago after I returned completing mySmithsonian postdoc tenure in 1983, but many of them were apparently new, bothspecies and genera !?? Then Maurice James had kindly helped me withmany of his reprints of papers on Oriental Strats he had posted and hisOriental Diptera Catalog section on Stratiomyidae is worth consulting if youare looking for knowledge, besides just a binomen. Especially note the followingcautionary words :?Considerable workneeds to be done on the Oriental fauna before the identities of certain speciesand the relationships between certain genera can be determined.?? Q.E.D. !?? Pity that in this one life I may just managea revision of our Syrphidae with help of some current researchers.? So the elegant Stratiomyidae will have towait? for another passionate researcherto emerge here (or elsewhere) because I do not believe in these dreams ofre-birth and such other ?filmy? Hindoo beliefs.?Hope this helps Aijaz and good luck with more fly collecting in that singularlyPalaearctic portion of our dominantly Oriental subcontinent where I had enjoyedsome great younger days on your houseboats and netting flies in the fantasticMoghul Gardens there.?Dr Kumar Ghorpade,?Scientist Emeritus, Post-Graduate Teacher & Honorary Research Associate in Systematic Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA. Registered mail to:? "Bell Bungalow," Kumareswar Colony 1st Cross, off Haliyal Road, Saptapur, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA).
      From: aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>
 To: "syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 10:10 PM
 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 105, Issue 7
   
Thank you all the wonderful people for being so nice!!?Aijaz A WachkooDepartment of Zoology,
University of Kashmir, Srinagar 


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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:17:24 +0200
From: Ruud van der Weele <rvanderweele at gmail.com>
To: aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>,??? Hoverfly discussion
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Looks very Oplodontha-ish to me. No idea what species may occur in India

Ruud van der Weele
Vliegerweg 11
NL 4101 JK Culemborg
The Netherlands
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> Op 28 jul. 2015 om 17:07 heeft aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Please if you could identify the syrphid attached.
> Regards,
> Aijaz A Wachkoo
> Department of Zoology,
> University of Kashmir, Srinagar
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:19:02 +0200
From: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>
To: aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>, ??? Hoverfly discussion
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It is not a syrphid, but a Stratiomyidae.

Ximo

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2015-07-28 17:07 GMT+02:00 aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>:

> Please if you could identify the syrphid attached.
> Regards,
> Aijaz A Wachkoo
> Department of Zoology,
> University of Kashmir, Srinagar
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:49:10 -0700
From: Martin Hauser <phycus at gmail.com>
To: aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>, ??? Hoverfly discussion
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Odontomyia cf. angulata, female.... could be a different species, not sure
about the fauna in India. But the discal cell is too big for Oplodontha,
although this is what I first thought too...
Cheers,
Martin

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:07 AM, aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>
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> Please if you could identify the syrphid attached.
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> Department of Zoology,
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:50:46 +0200
From: ruud van der weele <rvanderweele at gmail.com>
To: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Identification request
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;-)

2015-07-28 17:49 GMT+02:00 Martin Hauser <phycus at gmail.com>:

> Odontomyia cf. angulata, female.... could be a different species, not sure
> about the fauna in India. But the discal cell is too big for Oplodontha,
> although this is what I first thought too...
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:07 AM, aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in
> > wrote:
>
>> Please if you could identify the syrphid attached.
>> Regards,
>> Aijaz A Wachkoo
>> Department of Zoology,
>> University of Kashmir, Srinagar
>>
>>
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> --
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> California Department of Food and Agriculture
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> 3294 Meadowview Road
> Sacramento, CA 95832-1448
> (916) 262-1154
> cell: 217-3902417
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From: rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in (Kumar Ghorpade)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:18:28 -0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 105, Issue 7
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First, Aijaz,that beauty is a Stratiomyidae as Ximo correctly stated and NOT a syrphid !? Basic Dipterology.Second, besides justshooting off photographs for free IDs, some idea of its locality would at leastbe an aid to any ID you (or others) require.Third, Martin Hauserappears most correct with Odontomyia Meigen,of which there are about a dozen so far named and described species from oursubcontinent (subregion) of which the one and only Enrico Brunetti? had included 10 species in his FAUNA volume(1920) with a key to separate these species.?Of these there is one O.kashmirensis Brunetti ?which could bewhat you have sent if it was taken in your Kashmir where you are located ? ?Guessing !?Finally, these ?Soldier Flies? are absolutelybeautiful creatures distinctively marked and with an array of morphologicalvariations. ?Rudolf Rozkosny may be ableto help.? Your mail made me check my collectionof four schmitt boxes full of pinned and labelled Indian Stratiomyidae? and there I found some specimens with IDlabels.? Very long ago Dr Erwin Lindnerhad ?graciously sent me some Europeanflies with labels in order to familiarize me with some genera that are common toEurope and India, when I had asked for such help.? Norm Woodley also had sent IDs of somespecimens I had sent him some 30 years ago after I returned completing mySmithsonian postdoc tenure in 1983, but many of them were apparently new, bothspecies and genera !?? Then Maurice James had kindly helped me withmany of his reprints of papers on Oriental Strats he had posted and hisOriental Diptera Catalog section on Stratiomyidae is worth consulting if youare looking for knowledge, besides just a binomen. Especially note the followingcautionary words :?Considerable workneeds to be done on the Oriental fauna before the identities of certain speciesand the relationships between certain genera can be determined.?? Q.E.D. !?? Pity that in this one life I may just managea revision of our Syrphidae with help of some current researchers.? So the elegant Stratiomyidae will have towait? for another passionate researcherto emerge here (or elsewhere) because I do not believe in these dreams ofre-birth and such other ?filmy? Hindoo beliefs.?Hope this helps Aijaz and good luck with more fly collecting in that singularlyPalaearctic portion of our dominantly Oriental subcontinent where I had enjoyedsome great younger days on your houseboats and netting flies in the fantasticMoghul Gardens there.?Dr Kumar Ghorpade,?Scientist Emeritus, Post-Graduate Teacher & Honorary Research Associate in Systematic Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA. Registered mail to:? "Bell Bungalow," Kumareswar Colony 1st Cross, off Haliyal Road, Saptapur, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA).
      From: aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>
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 Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 10:10 PM
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Thank you all the wonderful people for being so nice!!?Aijaz A WachkooDepartment of Zoology,
University of Kashmir, Srinagar 


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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:17:24 +0200
From: Ruud van der Weele <rvanderweele at gmail.com>
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Looks very Oplodontha-ish to me. No idea what species may occur in India

Ruud van der Weele
Vliegerweg 11
NL 4101 JK Culemborg
The Netherlands
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> Op 28 jul. 2015 om 17:07 heeft aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Please if you could identify the syrphid attached.
> Regards,
> Aijaz A Wachkoo
> Department of Zoology,
> University of Kashmir, Srinagar
> 
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:19:02 +0200
From: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>
To: aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>, ??? Hoverfly discussion
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It is not a syrphid, but a Stratiomyidae.

Ximo

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2015-07-28 17:07 GMT+02:00 aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>:

> Please if you could identify the syrphid attached.
> Regards,
> Aijaz A Wachkoo
> Department of Zoology,
> University of Kashmir, Srinagar
>
>
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:49:10 -0700
From: Martin Hauser <phycus at gmail.com>
To: aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>, ??? Hoverfly discussion
??? list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
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Odontomyia cf. angulata, female.... could be a different species, not sure
about the fauna in India. But the discal cell is too big for Oplodontha,
although this is what I first thought too...
Cheers,
Martin

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:07 AM, aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>
wrote:

> Please if you could identify the syrphid attached.
> Regards,
> Aijaz A Wachkoo
> Department of Zoology,
> University of Kashmir, Srinagar
>
>
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From: ruud van der weele <rvanderweele at gmail.com>
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;-)

2015-07-28 17:49 GMT+02:00 Martin Hauser <phycus at gmail.com>:

> Odontomyia cf. angulata, female.... could be a different species, not sure
> about the fauna in India. But the discal cell is too big for Oplodontha,
> although this is what I first thought too...
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:07 AM, aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in
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From: rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in (Kumar Ghorpade)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:19:23 -0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 105, Issue 7
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First, Aijaz,that beauty is a Stratiomyidae as Ximo correctly stated and NOT a syrphid !? Basic Dipterology.Second, besides justshooting off photographs for free IDs, some idea of its locality would at leastbe an aid to any ID you (or others) require.Third, Martin Hauserappears most correct with Odontomyia Meigen,of which there are about a dozen so far named and described species from oursubcontinent (subregion) of which the one and only Enrico Brunetti? had included 10 species in his FAUNA volume(1920) with a key to separate these species.?Of these there is one O.kashmirensis Brunetti ?which could bewhat you have sent if it was taken in your Kashmir where you are located ? ?Guessing !?Finally, these ?Soldier Flies? are absolutelybeautiful creatures distinctively marked and with an array of morphologicalvariations. ?Rudolf Rozkosny may be ableto help.? Your mail made me check my collectionof four schmitt boxes full of pinned and labelled Indian Stratiomyidae? and there I found some specimens with IDlabels.? Very long ago Dr Erwin Lindnerhad ?graciously sent me some Europeanflies with labels in order to familiarize me with some genera that are common toEurope and India, when I had asked for such help.? Norm Woodley also had sent IDs of somespecimens I had sent him some 30 years ago after I returned completing mySmithsonian postdoc tenure in 1983, but many of them were apparently new, bothspecies and genera !?? Then Maurice James had kindly helped me withmany of his reprints of papers on Oriental Strats he had posted and hisOriental Diptera Catalog section on Stratiomyidae is worth consulting if youare looking for knowledge, besides just a binomen. Especially note the followingcautionary words :?Considerable workneeds to be done on the Oriental fauna before the identities of certain speciesand the relationships between certain genera can be determined.?? Q.E.D. !?? Pity that in this one life I may just managea revision of our Syrphidae with help of some current researchers.? So the elegant Stratiomyidae will have towait? for another passionate researcherto emerge here (or elsewhere) because I do not believe in these dreams ofre-birth and such other ?filmy? Hindoo beliefs.?Hope this helps Aijaz and good luck with more fly collecting in that singularlyPalaearctic portion of our dominantly Oriental subcontinent where I had enjoyedsome great younger days on your houseboats and netting flies in the fantasticMoghul Gardens there.?Dr Kumar Ghorpade,?Scientist Emeritus, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate in Systematic Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA. Registered mail to:? "Bell Bungalow," Kumareswar Colony 1st Cross, off Haliyal Road, Saptapur, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA).
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Thank you all the wonderful people for being so nice!!?Aijaz A WachkooDepartment of Zoology,
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:17:24 +0200
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Looks very Oplodontha-ish to me. No idea what species may occur in India

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> Op 28 jul. 2015 om 17:07 heeft aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in> het volgende geschreven:
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> Department of Zoology,
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From: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com>
To: aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>, ??? Hoverfly discussion
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It is not a syrphid, but a Stratiomyidae.

Ximo

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2015-07-28 17:07 GMT+02:00 aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>:

> Please if you could identify the syrphid attached.
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Odontomyia cf. angulata, female.... could be a different species, not sure
about the fauna in India. But the discal cell is too big for Oplodontha,
although this is what I first thought too...
Cheers,
Martin

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:07 AM, aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in>
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:50:46 +0200
From: ruud van der weele <rvanderweele at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Identification request
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;-)

2015-07-28 17:49 GMT+02:00 Martin Hauser <phycus at gmail.com>:

> Odontomyia cf. angulata, female.... could be a different species, not sure
> about the fauna in India. But the discal cell is too big for Oplodontha,
> although this is what I first thought too...
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:07 AM, aijaz wachkoo <aijaz_shoorida at yahoo.co.in
> > wrote:
>
>> Please if you could identify the syrphid attached.
>> Regards,
>> Aijaz A Wachkoo
>> Department of Zoology,
>> University of Kashmir, Srinagar
>>
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From sanderbot at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Aug 16 17:58:49 2015
From: sanderbot at yahoo.co.uk (Sander Bot)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 16:58:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Syrphidae] request for paper
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Dearfriends,

?I amlooking for this reference:

?ShirakiT (1968) Fauna Japonica. Syrphidae(Insecta: Diptera). VolumeII. Biogeographical Society of Japan, Tokyo, 243 pp.

(http://diptera.org/ReferencesDetail.php?Recn=25991).

?No ideawhether a pdf of this work exists. If so, and somebody has it and wants toshare it with me, this would be much appreciated. 

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From olga.dyakova at neuro.uu.se  Tue Aug 18 10:52:58 2015
From: olga.dyakova at neuro.uu.se (Olga Dyakova)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:52:58 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] help with identification
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Dear colleagues,

can anyone help to identify this species found in Italy?

Best regards,
Olga Dyakova

PhD student
Uppsala University
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From rvanderweele at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 12:22:20 2015
From: rvanderweele at gmail.com (ruud van der weele)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:22:20 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: help with identification
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Is it a syrphid? I cannot see the pictures very well, but it looks to me a
bit like a Lomatia, Bombyliidae. Frustrating that I cannot see the wings
better.



2015-08-18 11:52 GMT+02:00 Olga Dyakova <olga.dyakova at neuro.uu.se>:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> can anyone help to identify this species found in Italy?
>
> Best regards,
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From muscapaul at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 12:31:42 2015
From: muscapaul at gmail.com (muscapaul)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:31:42 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: help with identification
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*Lomatia* it is.

Pauol

On 18 August 2015 at 13:22, ruud van der weele <rvanderweele at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is it a syrphid? I cannot see the pictures very well, but it looks to me a
> bit like a Lomatia, Bombyliidae. Frustrating that I cannot see the wings
> better.
>
>
>
> 2015-08-18 11:52 GMT+02:00 Olga Dyakova <olga.dyakova at neuro.uu.se>:
>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> can anyone help to identify this species found in Italy?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Olga Dyakova
>>
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>> Uppsala University
>> Motion Vision Group
>>
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:20:42 +0200
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From: olga.dyakova at neuro.uu.se (Olga Dyakova)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:07:06 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 106, Issue 5
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Thank you!
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:20 PM
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Dear Olga
Hi
Your species belong to the genus Lomatia spp. (Bombyliidae).
All the best
Babak

Babak Gharali (Assistant Professor)
Department of Entomology (Head)
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Dear colleagues,

can anyone help to identify this species found in Italy?

Best regards,
Olga Dyakova

PhD student
Uppsala University
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From xmengual at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 08:52:36 2015
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 09:52:36 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] New publication
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Dear all,

here our new publication. Thanks to all who shared information recorded
here  :)

http://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/xGsd6snUKykmUBzjCepb/full

Best wishes,

Ximo

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From Frank.VandeMeutter at bio.kuleuven.be  Wed Aug 19 13:58:38 2015
From: Frank.VandeMeutter at bio.kuleuven.be (Frank Van de Meutter)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:58:38 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: New publication
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Hi Ximo
many of us will have no access through this link.Do you think you can upload the paper directly with the mail?

regards

Frank
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Dear all,

here our new publication. Thanks to all who shared information recorded here  :)

http://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/xGsd6snUKykmUBzjCepb/full

Best wishes,

Ximo

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From steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk  Wed Aug 19 19:36:51 2015
From: steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk (Steven Falk)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:36:51 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands
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Dear All,
 
Tim Ransom has found a Merodon on Jersey that is clearly not equestris but
may be trochantericus. Who would be the best prson to check it?
 
Best wishes,
 
Steven
 
 
 
Steven Falk
Artist-Naturalist-Photographer
www.stevenfalk.co.uk <http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/> 
 
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From xmengual at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 21:49:12 2015
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:49:12 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands
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I would sugest Ante Vujic and his team. Grigory Popov mY be a good option
too.

Best,

Ximo
El 19/08/2015 22:45, "Steven Falk" <steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk> escribi?:

> Dear All,
>
> Tim Ransom has found a Merodon on Jersey that is clearly not equestris but
> may be trochantericus. Who would be the best prson to check it?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Steven
>
>
>
> Steven Falk
> Artist-Naturalist-Photographer
> www.stevenfalk.co.uk
>
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From xmengual at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 21:51:52 2015
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:51:52 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Fwd: Re:  New publication
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Here the pdf.

Best!

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From eckvana at xs4all.nl  Wed Aug 19 22:46:01 2015
From: eckvana at xs4all.nl (eckvana)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:46:01 +0000
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands
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Dear Steven, 

Well, Martin Speight for instance might help you.
Myself, I collected two males M. trochantericus on Saint Helier,
21.vii.1997 (UTM. 30U 565 5447), which are in my collection. So that is
also an option, to compare yours with mine. 

Best wishes,
Andr? van Eck
Tilburg, Netherlands 

Steven Falk schreef op 2015-08-19 18:36: 

> Dear All, 
> 
> Tim Ransom has found a Merodon on Jersey that is clearly not equestris but may be trochantericus. Who would be the best prson to check it? 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> 
> Steven 
> 
> Steven Falk 
> Artist-Naturalist-Photographer 
> www.stevenfalk.co.uk [1] 
> 
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/ 
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From x.lair at laposte.net  Wed Aug 19 22:54:30 2015
From: x.lair at laposte.net (x.lair at laposte.net)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 23:54:30 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands
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Dear Steven, 

I'm not really surprised by Tim Ransom's discoverey in Jersey: Merodon trochantericus is also present all along Manche coast, between Cotentin and Mount Saint-Michel. From North to South: 
Biville - 04/07/2006, dunes (Xavier Lair) 
Carteret - 28/06/2007, coastal cliffs (Philippe Sagot) 
Blainville-sur-mer - 24/07/2004 dunes (P. Sagot) 
Champeaux - 09-12/08/2006 coastal cliffs, on Scilla autumnalis (X. Lair) 
Carolles - 14/06/2005 coastal cliffs on Jasiona (X. Lair) 

I also found it on Brittany coast in 2010 (2 localities in Finist?re). 
Adults on M. trochantericus can be found on on Scilla autumnalis on later summer in cliffs, it's not impossible that the larvae feed with this plant (Liliaceae) 
M. trochantericus is probably present in Manche since a long time, we found it when we seriously started inventory hoverflies in Manche in the years 2000... 
Maybe this species shows a thermo-atlantic distribution, such as other species (Tabanus eggeri, Podalonia luffii, or Chrysis grohmanni, Lasioglossum smeathmanellum) all present in Manche but absent inland and in most of North-West European countries. 

If needed, i will send you the previous published data with M. trocanhtericus in Normandy and Brittany. 
Best wishes 

Xavier Lair 


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Dear All, 
Tim Ransom has found a Merodon on Jersey that is clearly not equestris but may be trochantericus. Who would be the best prson to check it? 
Best wishes, 
Steven 
Steven Falk 
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www.stevenfalk.co.uk 
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From steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk  Wed Aug 19 23:31:25 2015
From: steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk (Steven Falk)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 23:31:25 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands
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Thanks Ximo
 
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[mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ximo mengual
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Sent: 19 August 2015 21:49
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Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands



I would sugest Ante Vujic and his team. Grigory Popov mY be a good option
too.

Best,

Ximo

El 19/08/2015 22:45, "Steven Falk" <steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk> escribi?:



Dear All,
 
Tim Ransom has found a Merodon on Jersey that is clearly not equestris but
may be trochantericus. Who would be the best prson to check it?
 
Best wishes,
 
Steven
 
 
 
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Artist-Naturalist-Photographer
www.stevenfalk.co.uk <http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/> 
 
Wildlife identification resources at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
 
 
 
 

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From mp.van.veen at hccnet.nl  Thu Aug 20 08:21:19 2015
From: mp.van.veen at hccnet.nl (Mark Van Veen)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:21:19 +0200
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands
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Steven,

Trochanter and femur 3 identify the males from all other species occuring in the region, both have a projection (in addition to the triangular one on the femur). Females are more difficult.

Mark

Steven Falk <steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk>schreef:

>Thanks Ximo
> 
>Steven Falk
>Artist-Naturalist-Photographer
>www.stevenfalk.co.uk <http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/> 
> 
>Wildlife identification resources at:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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>From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>[mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ximo mengual
>sanchis
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>Cc: tim ransom
>Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands
>
>
>
>I would sugest Ante Vujic and his team. Grigory Popov mY be a good option
>too.
>
>Best,
>
>Ximo
>
>El 19/08/2015 22:45, "Steven Falk" <steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk> escribi?:
>
>
>
>Dear All,
> 
>Tim Ransom has found a Merodon on Jersey that is clearly not equestris but
>may be trochantericus. Who would be the best prson to check it?
> 
>Best wishes,
> 
>Steven
> 
> 
> 
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>www.stevenfalk.co.uk <http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/> 
> 
>Wildlife identification resources at:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
> 
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From steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk  Thu Aug 20 20:19:46 2015
From: steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk (Steven Falk)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:19:46 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands
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Thanks to everyone for this useful feedback. I still have quite a lot of
Jersey material to check, but seem to have Eupeodes goeldlini from there -
at least it looks like the other material I call goeldlini! (size and build
of luniger but broader frons angle, lunules broadly fused, more than I've
ever seen in luniger). Also encounered in at two sites in Sussex (SE
England). 
 
Best wishes,
 
Steven
 
Steven Falk
Artist-Naturalist-Photographer
www.stevenfalk.co.uk <http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/> 
 
Wildlife identification resources at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
 
 
 
 

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From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Van Veen
Sent: 20 August 2015 08:21
To: Hoverfly discussion list
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands


Steven,

Trochanter and femur 3 identify the males from all other species occuring in
the region, both have a projection (in addition to the triangular one on the
femur). Females are more difficult.

Mark

Steven Falk <steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk>schreef:


Thanks Ximo
 
Steven Falk
Artist-Naturalist-Photographer
www.stevenfalk.co.uk <http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/> 
 
Wildlife identification resources at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
 
 
 
 

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From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of ximo mengual
sanchis
Sent: 19 August 2015 21:49
To: Hoverfly discussion list
Cc: tim ransom
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Merodon trochantericus on the Channel Islands



I would sugest Ante Vujic and his team. Grigory Popov mY be a good option
too.

Best,

Ximo

El 19/08/2015 22:45, "Steven Falk" <steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk> escribi?:



Dear All,
 
Tim Ransom has found a Merodon on Jersey that is clearly not equestris but
may be trochantericus. Who would be the best prson to check it?
 
Best wishes,
 
Steven
 
 
 
Steven Falk
Artist-Naturalist-Photographer
www.stevenfalk.co.uk <http://www.stevenfalk.co.uk/> 
 
Wildlife identification resources at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200 at N07/collections/
 
 
 
 

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