From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 7 10:45:52 2013 From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:45:52 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] ID Message-ID: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> hi everyone Has anyone any idea what this species is? It's from Pakistan. The photos are not great, I know Thanks Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DSC09858.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2171144 bytes Desc: DSC09858.JPG URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DSC09871.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2230292 bytes Desc: DSC09871.JPG URL: From gerard_pennards at hotmail.com Fri Jun 7 11:25:15 2013 From: gerard_pennards at hotmail.com (Gerard Pennards) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:25:15 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 82, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Francis, It's a male Sphaerophoria, but the details of the genitalia are to vague to ID it to species, for me that is.... Greetings, Gerard Pennards > From: syrphidae-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Subject: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 82, Issue 1 > To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:46:30 +0100 > > Send Syrphidae mailing list submissions to > syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > syrphidae-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > syrphidae-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Syrphidae digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ID (Francis Gilbert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:45:52 +0100 > From: Francis Gilbert > To: "Hoverfly discussion list (syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk)" > > Subject: [Syrphidae] ID > Message-ID: > <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > hi everyone > > Has anyone any idea what this species is? > It's from Pakistan. The photos are not great, I know > > Thanks > > Francis > > > > Dr Francis Gilbert > Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology > University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK > Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 > website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg > ecology.nottingham.ac.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: DSC09858.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2171144 bytes > Desc: DSC09858.JPG > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: DSC09871.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2230292 bytes > Desc: DSC09871.JPG > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Syrphidae mailing list > Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > > > End of Syrphidae Digest, Vol 82, Issue 1 > **************************************** > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eckvana at xs4all.nl Fri Jun 7 11:50:09 2013 From: eckvana at xs4all.nl (eckvana) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 12:50:09 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: ID In-Reply-To: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <50ce58da3332b3c3b9dd4d183b7752ec@xs4all.nl> Check Sphaerophoria turkmenica Bankowska, 1964. Francis Gilbert schreef op 2013-06-07 11:45: > hi everyone > > Has anyone any idea what this species is? > > It's from Pakistan. The photos are not great, I know > > Thanks > > Francis > > Dr Francis Gilbert > > Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology > > University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK > > Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 > > website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg > > ecology.nottingham.ac.uk > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > _______________________________________________ > Syrphidae mailing list > Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae [1] Links: ------ [1] http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in Fri Jun 14 10:18:36 2013 From: rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in (Kumar Ghorpade) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:18:36 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: ID In-Reply-To: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1371201516.99439.YahooMailNeo@web190906.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Hi Francis ! ? Just opened this infrequently checked ID. ? It is Sphaerophoria bengalensis Macquart (male).? S. turkmenica was synonymised by me (Ghorpade, 2009: 11, PDF can be sent to requestor?s personal e-mail ID). ?? The images are good enough for an expert to recognize and name ! S. flavoabdominalis Brunetti, 1915 was also confirmed as a synonym by me, like the late (great !) Richard Vockeroth had surmised in 1971. ? Whoever "Eckvana" is my mail to him bounced as?I had attached my paper.? It is available as a PDF to anyone who asks for it.? ? Good to read something about our subcontinent's Syrphidae.? I am helping a doctoral student in Pakistan now and find that?country (its northern Himalayan, Hindu-Kush, Karakoram mountains) having a Palaearctic fauna and poorly sampled and diagnosed !? Cheers, KUMAR kumarsinh.g at gmail.com ? ?? Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Scientist Emeritus, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA. ________________________________ From: Francis Gilbert To: "Hoverfly discussion list (syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk)" Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 3:15 PM Subject: [Syrphidae] ID hi everyone ? Has anyone any idea what this species is? It's from Pakistan. The photos are not great, I know ? Thanks ? Francis ? ? ? Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ??????????????? ecology.nottingham.ac.uk ? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.?? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.? Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Syrphidae mailing list Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonolek at gmail.com Fri Jun 14 11:18:37 2013 From: gonolek at gmail.com (James Alan Wolstencroft) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:18:37 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] Migrant Syrphidae in Eire/British Isles? In-Reply-To: <1371201516.99439.YahooMailNeo@web190906.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1371201516.99439.YahooMailNeo@web190906.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <567F62CD-7B82-4E13-8361-B71A85B40BFC@gmail.com> Dear All, To what extent is it known (or 'supposed') whether Helophilus spp are long distance migrants e.g. in or to Eire/BI? I was on a thrift covered cliff-top, on westernmost Dursey Island, off westernmost Cork, last week and noticed an apparent arrival of Helophilus in association with relatively small numbers of various migrant Lepidoptera. No Episyrphus balteatus however, and few Eristalis spp. Many thanks, JW From roger.morris at dsl.pipex.com Fri Jun 14 11:46:55 2013 From: roger.morris at dsl.pipex.com (Roger Morris) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:46:55 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Migrant Syrphidae in Eire/British Isles? In-Reply-To: <567F62CD-7B82-4E13-8361-B71A85B40BFC@gmail.com> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1371201516.99439.YahooMailNeo@web190906.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <567F62CD-7B82-4E13-8361-B71A85B40BFC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51BAF49F.8050102@dsl.pipex.com> Hello James H. pendulus is a bit of a wanderer but not migratory to any great level. H. trivittatus is regarded as a migrant but I suspect it is resident much of the time but wanders. H. hybridus is a good deal more faithful to breeding sites. There are several species that occur as vagrants or whose biology is too poorly known to judge whether they are vagrants or residents. Hope this helps Roger On 14/06/2013 11:18, James Alan Wolstencroft wrote: > Dear All, > > To what extent is it known (or 'supposed') whether Helophilus spp are long distance migrants e.g. in or to Eire/BI? > I was on a thrift covered cliff-top, on westernmost Dursey Island, off westernmost Cork, last week and noticed an apparent arrival of Helophilus in association with relatively small numbers of various migrant Lepidoptera. > No Episyrphus balteatus however, and few Eristalis spp. > > Many thanks, > JW > _______________________________________________ > Syrphidae mailing list > Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > > From gonolek at gmail.com Fri Jun 14 12:22:18 2013 From: gonolek at gmail.com (James Alan Wolstencroft) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:22:18 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Migrant Syrphidae in Eire/British Isles? In-Reply-To: <51BAF49F.8050102@dsl.pipex.com> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1371201516.99439.YahooMailNeo@web190906.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <567F62CD-7B82-4E13-8361-B71A85B40BFC@gmail.com> <51BAF49F.8050102@dsl.pipex.com> Message-ID: Many thanks Roger ! On 14 Jun 2013, at 11:46, Roger Morris wrote: > Hello James > > H. pendulus is a bit of a wanderer but not migratory to any great level. H. trivittatus is regarded as a migrant but I suspect it is resident much of the time but wanders. H. hybridus is a good deal more faithful to breeding sites. There are several species that occur as vagrants or whose biology is too poorly known to judge whether they are vagrants or residents. > > Hope this helps > > Roger > > > On 14/06/2013 11:18, James Alan Wolstencroft wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> To what extent is it known (or 'supposed') whether Helophilus spp are long distance migrants e.g. in or to Eire/BI? >> I was on a thrift covered cliff-top, on westernmost Dursey Island, off westernmost Cork, last week and noticed an apparent arrival of Helophilus in association with relatively small numbers of various migrant Lepidoptera. >> No Episyrphus balteatus however, and few Eristalis spp. >> >> Many thanks, >> JW >> _______________________________________________ >> Syrphidae mailing list >> Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk >> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment >> may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Syrphidae mailing list > Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment > may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > > > From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Fri Jun 14 15:08:42 2013 From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:08:42 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: ID In-Reply-To: <1371201516.99439.YahooMailNeo@web190906.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <1371201516.99439.YahooMailNeo@web190906.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACDD15@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> terrific - thanks ! Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kumar Ghorpade Sent: 14 June 2013 10:19 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: ID Hi Francis ! Just opened this infrequently checked ID. It is Sphaerophoria bengalensis Macquart (male). S. turkmenica was synonymised by me (Ghorpade, 2009: 11, PDF can be sent to requestor?s personal e-mail ID). The images are good enough for an expert to recognize and name ! S. flavoabdominalis Brunetti, 1915 was also confirmed as a synonym by me, like the late (great !) Richard Vockeroth had surmised in 1971. Whoever "Eckvana" is my mail to him bounced as I had attached my paper. It is available as a PDF to anyone who asks for it. Good to read something about our subcontinent's Syrphidae. I am helping a doctoral student in Pakistan now and find that country (its northern Himalayan, Hindu-Kush, Karakoram mountains) having a Palaearctic fauna and poorly sampled and diagnosed ! Cheers, KUMAR kumarsinh.g at gmail.com Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Scientist Emeritus, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. Postal Mailbox: P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA. From: Francis Gilbert To: "Hoverfly discussion list (syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk)" Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 3:15 PM Subject: [Syrphidae] ID hi everyone Has anyone any idea what this species is? It's from Pakistan. The photos are not great, I know Thanks Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Syrphidae mailing list Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in Fri Jun 14 09:57:49 2013 From: rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in (Kumar Ghorpade) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 16:57:49 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: ID In-Reply-To: <50ce58da3332b3c3b9dd4d183b7752ec@xs4all.nl> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA4863ACCEB1@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <50ce58da3332b3c3b9dd4d183b7752ec@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1371200269.17209.YahooMailNeo@web190903.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> It is Sphaerophoria bengalensis Macquart (male).? S. turkmenica was synonymised by me (Ghorpade, 2009: 11, PDF attached). Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA. Registered mail to:? 238 Bharatinagar, II Main, 4th Cross, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA).? ________________________________ From: eckvana To: Hoverfly discussion list Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013 4:20 PM Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: ID Check Sphaerophoria turkmenica Bankowska, 1964. ? Francis Gilbert schreef op 2013-06-07 11:45: hi everyone >? >Has anyone any idea what this species is? >It's from Pakistan. The photos are not great, I know >? >Thanks >? >Francis >? >? >? >Dr Francis Gilbert >Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology >University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK >Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 >website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg >??????????????? ecology.nottingham.ac.uk >? > >This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.?? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.? Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. > > >_______________________________________________ Syrphidae mailing list Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae ? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.?? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.? Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. _______________________________________________ Syrphidae mailing list Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Colemania # 15 Syrphidae nomenclature.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 4772118 bytes Desc: not available URL: