From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jul 2 19:06:07 2013 From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:06:07 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] What is this?? Message-ID: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA48CB82D26E@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> best wishes Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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All: Attached (and not sure whether the server will accept it) is my most recent paper. And if you are interested in old fashioned paper reprints, let me know separately, as I still have many on hand. Sincerely, Chris from home From: Francis Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 2:06 PM To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] What is this?? best wishes Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA48CB82D290@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> It's Lombok in Indonesia Thanks ! F Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson Sent: 02 July 2013 22:14 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: What is this?? Francis: It would be nice to know where the picture was taken. This is clearly genus Phytomia. And if in the Oriental region, then probably chrysopygus. But without knowing the locality I would not make a species identification. All: Attached (and not sure whether the server will accept it) is my most recent paper. And if you are interested in old fashioned paper reprints, let me know separately, as I still have many on hand. Sincerely, Chris from home From: Francis Gilbert Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 2:06 PM To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] What is this?? best wishes Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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Regards, Malcolm Smart from home -----Original Message----- From: syrphidae-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Sent: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 22:15 Subject: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 83, Issue 2 Today's Topics: 1. Re: What is this?? (Chris Thompson) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:14:26 -0400 rom: "Chris Thompson" o: "Hoverfly discussion list" ubject: [Syrphidae] Re: What is this?? essage-ID: ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Francis: It would be nice to know where the picture was taken. This is clearly genus Phytomia. And if in the Oriental region, then probably hrysopygus. But without knowing the locality I would not make a species identification. All: Attached (and not sure whether the server will accept it) is my most recent aper. And if you are interested in old fashioned paper reprints, let me know eparately, as I still have many on hand. 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But I recognize it as Dolichomerus chrysopyga Wiedemann, 1819.? This is treated by ??Chris as a subgenus of Phytomia ?which may be true ?? Lombok would be a new distribution record for this species known from Burma , Malaya, Laos and Java. ?Probably NE. India ?also?? We in India have D. crassa (Fabricius, 1787) which is a widespread black species with red hind femora.? Chris:? Yes, I would love all your reprints from 1985 onwards please, ?if possible. Old ?fashion? is my preference.? Fashion comes and goes, don?t give it a damn. Malcolm:? Java is the type-locality for this species.? Do you have more syrphids from the Orient ? ?All:? In future all images MUST have locality specified for ID.? This poor syrphid seems dead and ?staged.? ???But it is beautiful. Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA. ? ________________________________ From: Francis Gilbert To: Hoverfly discussion list Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:36 PM Subject: [Syrphidae] What is this?? best wishes ? Francis ? ? Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: http://in-mg61.mail.yahoo.com/neo/ ??????????????? ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ? This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it.?? Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment.? Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Last night I had sent that mail from memory, after watching Andy Murray become men?s Wimbledon singles champion 77 years after the only other great British champion Fred Perry. ??? But ?early this morning checked collections and library in my study and wish to communicate the following : 1.??????? ?I found 7 specimens in my collection, 4 from Java, and 1 each from Thailand (Siam), Burma and near Shillong (in old ?Assam,? now Meghalaya state) in NE. India. This is still unpublished data, all please note ! 2.?????? Thompson & Vockeroth (1989) do NOT list it in their catalogue of Australasian and Oceanian Regions.? So Lombok being just ?on the eastern side of the classic Wallace?s Line, your photo documents this beautiful species for the first time from what I term the Papuan subregion of the Oriental region, NOT Australian. ?More details of the exact locality, date, and collector would be appreciated for the ?Conspectus? of Oriental?Papuan Syrphidae that I am constructing along with Chris and his other postdoc student Ximo Mengual. 3.?????? I wonder if anyone realizes that this coming November 7th ?(4 months from today) will be the centenary death anniversary of my favourite collector-naturalist ?hero,? Alfred Russel Wallace ?? I also believe his geographical species ?concept to be fundamental to species recognition, and that the current biological/phylogenetic concepts only muddle the issue in unending ?pregnant? debate. 4.?????? Most importantly, your photo species should be called Phytomia chrysopyga Wiedemann since this is the type-species of the genus. ?Dolichomerus Macquart (crassa Fabricius is type-species) is a synonym (?subgenus? ?) but could be separated as Curran (1927, Rev. Zool. Afr., 15: 362) had felt but later (1927, Bull. AMNH 62: 76, and 1939, Am. Mus. Novit., 1026: 8) merged it under Phytomia (earlier Megaspis Macquart as I knew it when I began my Syrphidae studies in 1973). ? Cheers, Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA. ________________________________ From: Francis Gilbert To: Hoverfly discussion list Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2013 12:37 PM Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: What is this?? It's Lombok in Indonesia Thanks ! F ? Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ??????????????? ecology.nottingham.ac.uk ? ? From:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson Sent: 02 July 2013 22:14 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: What is this?? ? Francis: ? It would be nice to know where the picture was taken. ? This is clearly genus Phytomia. And if in the Oriental region, then probably chrysopygus. ? But without knowing the locality I would not make a species identification. ? All: Attached (and not sure whether the server will accept it) is my most recent paper. And if you are interested in old fashioned paper reprints, let me know separately, as I still have many on hand. ? Sincerely, ? Chris ? from home ? From:Francis Gilbert Sent:Tuesday, July 02, 2013 2:06 PM To:Hoverfly discussion list Subject:[Syrphidae] What is this?? ? best wishes ? Francis ? ? Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ??????????????? ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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