From bgharaei at mail.com  Sun Dec  8 17:38:36 2013
From: bgharaei at mail.com (Babak Gharali)
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 12:38:36 -0500
Subject: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg
Message-ID: <20131208173838.186180@gmx.com>

Dear friends
Hi 
I am looking for two papers of Stackelberg (1953, 1959) discuussing the genera Orthonevra and Chrysogaster, could you please help me to get the english version of these two papers.
Stackelberg, A. A. http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/author/370?sort=keyword&order=asc  (1953). The Palearctic species of the genus Orthoneura Macq. (Diptera, Syrphidae) http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/view/434 .  Entomological Review. XXXIII, 1-21

Stackelberg, A.A.1959.The palaearctic species of the genus ChrysogasterMg. (Diptera, Syrphidae).Entom. Obozr.,38(4)
:898-904

All the best 
Babak 
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From xmengual at gmail.com  Mon Dec  9 08:03:34 2013
From: xmengual at gmail.com (ximo mengual sanchis)
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:03:34 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Stackelberg
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Dear Babak,

Attached you will find both articles.

Best regards,

Ximo


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Head of the Diptera Section
Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig
Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere
Adenauerallee 160
D-53113  Bonn, Germany
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2013/12/8 Babak Gharali <bgharaei at mail.com>

> Dear friends
> Hi
>
> I am looking for two papers of Stackelberg (1953, 1959) discuussing the
> genera *Orthonevra* and *Chrysogaster*, could you please help me to get
> the english version of these two papers.
>
>
>
> Stackelberg, A. A.<http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/author/370?sort=keyword&order=asc>(1953).  The
> Palearctic species of the genus Orthoneura Macq. (Diptera, Syrphidae)<http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/view/434>.
> Entomological Review. XXXIII, 1-21
>
>
>
>
> Stackelberg, A.A.1959.The palaearctic species of the genus ChrysogasterMg.
> (Diptera, Syrphidae).Entom. Obozr.,38(4)
> :898-904
>
> All the best
>
> Babak
>
> Babak Gharali (Assistant Professor)
> Department of Entomology (Head)
> Research Center for Agriculture and Natural Resources
> Shahid Beheshti Blvd. No. 118,
> Ghazvin, Iran
> _______________________________________________
> Syrphidae mailing list
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From bgharaei at mail.com  Mon Dec  9 08:06:50 2013
From: bgharaei at mail.com (Babak Gharali)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 03:06:50 -0500
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 88, Issue 1
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Dear Ximo
Hi
Thanks a lot for your kindness and prompt response.
Cheers
Babak
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Re: Stackelberg (ximo mengual sanchis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 12:38:36 -0500 From: "Babak Gharali" <bgharaei at mail.com> To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg Message-ID: <20131208173838.186180 at gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear friends Hi I am looking for two papers of Stackelberg (1953, 1959) discuussing the genera Orthonevra and Chrysogaster, could you please help me to get the english version of these two papers. Stackelberg, A. A. http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/author/370?sort=keyword&order=asc (1953). The Palearctic species of the genus Orthoneura Macq. (Diptera, Syrphidae) http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/view/434 . Entomological Review. XXXIII, 1-21 Stackelberg, A.A.1959.The palaearctic species of the genus ChrysogasterMg. (Diptera, Syrphidae).Entom. Obozr.,38(4) :898-904 All the best Babak Babak Gharali (Assistant Professor) Department of Entomology (Head) Research Center for Agriculture and Natural Resources Shahid Beheshti Blvd. No. 118, Ghazvin, Iran -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/pipermail/syrphidae/attachments/20131208/e6854889/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:03:34 +0100 From: ximo mengual sanchis <xmengual at gmail.com> To: Hoverfly discussion list <syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Stackelberg Message-ID: <CALZXNEuneEQUpytOe1HOTTFyddPVMFQgjbo+uykig0zyuqYZaw at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Babak, Attached you will find both articles. Best regards, Ximo ******************************************************** Dr. Ximo Mengual Head of the Diptera Section Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere Adenauerallee 160 D-53113 Bonn, Germany Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292 ZFMK web <http://www.zfmk.de/web/ZFMK_Mitarbeiter/MengualXimo/index.en.html> <http://entomology.si.edu/StaffPages/MengualJ.html> https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/ 2013/12/8 Babak Gharali <bgharaei at mail.com> > Dear friends > Hi > > I am looking for two papers of Stackelberg (1953, 1959) discuussing the > genera *Orthonevra* and *Chrysogaster*, could you please help me to get > the english version of these two papers. > > > > Stackelberg, A. A.<http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/author/370?sort=keyword&order=asc>(1953). The > Palearctic species of the genus Orthoneura Macq. (Diptera, Syrphidae)<http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/view/434>. > Entomological Review. 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From bgharaei at mail.com  Mon Dec  9 08:10:16 2013
From: bgharaei at mail.com (Babak Gharali)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 03:10:16 -0500
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 88, Issue 1
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Dear Ximo
Hi
A question, is there english version for  /Orthonevra /paper. this is Russian text.
All the best
Babak
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Re: Stackelberg (ximo mengual sanchis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 12:38:36 -0500 From: "Babak Gharali" <bgharaei at mail.com> To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Syrphidae] Stackelberg Message-ID: <20131208173838.186180 at gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear friends Hi I am looking for two papers of Stackelberg (1953, 1959) discuussing the genera Orthonevra and Chrysogaster, could you please help me to get the english version of these two papers. Stackelberg, A. A. http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/author/370?sort=keyword&order=asc (1953). The Palearctic species of the genus Orthoneura Macq. (Diptera, Syrphidae) http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/view/434 . Entomological Review. XXXIII, 1-21 Stackelberg, A.A.1959.The palaearctic species of the genus ChrysogasterMg. (Diptera, Syrphidae).Entom. 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Best regards, Ximo ******************************************************** Dr. Ximo Mengual Head of the Diptera Section Stiftung Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig Leibniz-Institut f?r Biodiversit?t der Tiere Adenauerallee 160 D-53113 Bonn, Germany Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292 ZFMK web <http://www.zfmk.de/web/ZFMK_Mitarbeiter/MengualXimo/index.en.html> <http://entomology.si.edu/StaffPages/MengualJ.html> https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/ 2013/12/8 Babak Gharali <bgharaei at mail.com> > Dear friends > Hi > > I am looking for two papers of Stackelberg (1953, 1959) discuussing the > genera *Orthonevra* and *Chrysogaster*, could you please help me to get > the english version of these two papers. > > > > Stackelberg, A. A.<http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/author/370?sort=keyword&order=asc>(1953). The > Palearctic species of the genus Orthoneura Macq. (Diptera, Syrphidae)<http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/biblio/view/434>. > Entomological Review. 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From Stefan.Pruner at student.uibk.ac.at  Mon Dec  9 09:00:23 2013
From: Stefan.Pruner at student.uibk.ac.at (Stefan Pruner)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 10:00:23 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Orthonevra
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Dear All!

I've been wondering several times why (and maybe when) the name  
Orthoneura changed to Orthonevra. Was there a typing error in an  
earlier description? One would think "Orthoneura" sounds correct,  
wouldn't he?
Maybe one of you knows the answer to this puzzling question.

Best regards

Stefan



From bgharaei at mail.com  Mon Dec  9 15:43:20 2013
From: bgharaei at mail.com (Babak Gharali)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 10:43:20 -0500
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 88, Issue 3
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Dear Stefan
Hi
To me at the present time, the name isn't as important as the paper itself.
I should identify many specimens and need the english version . Ximo kindly helped me and sent Russian version. If I don?t find this version I have to work on its translation that last some months.
I think the catalogue of syrphidae may give the answer. As attachment you find that papge.
cheers
Babak
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From Stefan.Pruner at student.uibk.ac.at  Mon Dec  9 17:14:19 2013
From: Stefan.Pruner at student.uibk.ac.at (Stefan Pruner)
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 18:14:19 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Orthonevra
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Dear Babak!

I hope you get the paper soon or at least find a faster way to translate it!
Thanks for the scan. That was very kind of you. it answered my  
question, that came to my mind again, after reading your request on  
that genus.

Best wishes!

Stefan

Zitat von Babak Gharali <bgharaei at mail.com>:

> Dear Stefan
> Hi
> To me at the present time, the name isn't as important as the paper itself.
> I should identify many specimens and need the english version . Ximo  
> kindly helped me and sent Russian version. If I don?t find this  
> version I have to work on its translation that last some months.
> I think the catalogue of syrphidae may give the answer. As  
> attachment you find that papge.
> cheers
> Babak
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> To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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>   Dear All! I've been wondering several times why (and maybe when)  
> the name Orthoneura changed to Orthonevra. Was there a typing error  
> in an earlier description? One would think "Orthoneura" sounds  
> correct, wouldn't he? Maybe one of you knows the answer to this  
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From rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in  Fri Dec 13 05:54:44 2013
From: rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in (Kumar Ghorpade)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:54:44 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 88, Issue 3
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Babak :
? ? I've just checked my reprint collection of Russian authors' Syrphidae papers and have found what the great Stackelberg sent me of his papers in the early 1970's, on my request. ?I have his Chrysogaster paper in English (Ent Obozr., 38: 806-811) [NOTE correct page numbers !] and can send you a PDF shortly. ?Hope to find the other on Orthonevra also, if you are lucky. ??
? ? Yes, these spellings in Latin/Greek are a pain ! ?The late great Vockeroth and I had a comical repaste about "javana or iavana" when I had a problem with an Allograpta with that species name. ?"Cannot they spell Java" he argued ! ?Orthonevra is the original spelling and must be used, NOT Orthoneura which is an emendation.


Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA.
Registered mail to:? 238 Bharatinagar, II Main, 4th Cross, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA).?



On Monday, 9 December 2013 9:16 PM, Babak Gharali <bgharaei at mail.com> wrote:
 
Dear Stefan
Hi
To me at the present time, the name isn't as important as the paper itself.
I should identify many specimens and need the english version . Ximo kindly helped me and sent Russian version. If I don?t find this version I have to work on its translation that last some months.
I think the catalogue of syrphidae may give the answer. As attachment you find that papge.
cheers
Babak
?
?
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From rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in  Fri Dec 13 06:08:44 2013
From: rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in (Kumar Ghorpade)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:08:44 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Palma, Chrysotoxum & Sommaggio
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The work of Violovitsh on Eurasian Chrysotoxum is extensive and ?well illustrated, though Chris doubts Violovitsh's results (pers. comm.). ?I just published on Oriental species and confirmed another aphid prey species of this genus -see attachments.?
?
Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA.
Registered mail to:? 238 Bharatinagar, II Main, 4th Cross, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA).?



On Tuesday, 26 November 2013 3:18 AM, Chris Thompson <xelaalex at cox.net> wrote:
 
All:
?
Sorry, but I am slow for various personal reasons, etc.
?
I can get this paper and generate a pdf of it for distribution.
?
BUT I am curious of why and where we are in respects to the taxonomy of 
Chrysotoxum.
?
As I remember it Daniele Sommaggio was working on a revision of this genus. 
And he was also working on the Italian syrphid types, those of Rondani and other 
authors. So, what has happened to Daniele ????
?
So ...
?
Sincerely,
?
Chris
?
from home?
From: Jelena Acanski 
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:59 AM
To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
Subject: [Syrphidae] paper request
? ?
Dear 
all,

I have to ask you 
for a favor.

I need to check one publication (description of 
Chrysotoxum flavipenne), maybe some of you can share it as .pdf


Palma, G. 
1864. Ditteri della fauna napolitana. Annali dell?Accademia degli 
Aspiranti Naturalisti(3) 3 
[1863]: 37-66. [1864.??.??]


Thanks in advance

Best regards

Jelena A?anski
?
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From xelaalex at cox.net  Fri Dec 13 18:40:40 2013
From: xelaalex at cox.net (Chris Thompson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:40:40 -0500
Subject: [Syrphidae] Violovitsh's Far Eastern Chrysotoxum work
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All:

Kumar?s statement about my doubts on Violovitsh work is misleading.

What I said was given the recent work by Suk & Han (2013) on east asian Chrysotoxum (in Animal Cells and Systems 17: 277-289, 2013) one needs to be very carefully as molecular characters strongly suggest that color characters are more variable and there are fewer species than previously recognized.

Oh, well ...

Sincerely,

Chris

from home


From: Kumar Ghorpade 
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:08 AM
To: Hoverfly discussion list 
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Palma, Chrysotoxum & Sommaggio

The work of Violovitsh on Eurasian Chrysotoxum is extensive and  well illustrated, though Chris doubts Violovitsh's results (pers. comm.).  I just published on Oriental species and confirmed another aphid prey species of this genus -see attachments. 

Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:  P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA.
Registered mail to:  238 Bharatinagar, II Main, 4th Cross, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA). 



On Tuesday, 26 November 2013 3:18 AM, Chris Thompson <xelaalex at cox.net> wrote:

All:

Sorry, but I am slow for various personal reasons, etc.

I can get this paper and generate a pdf of it for distribution.

BUT I am curious of why and where we are in respects to the taxonomy of Chrysotoxum.

As I remember it Daniele Sommaggio was working on a revision of this genus. And he was also working on the Italian syrphid types, those of Rondani and other authors. So, what has happened to Daniele ????

So ...

Sincerely,

Chris

from home

From: Jelena Acanski 
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:59 AM
To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
Subject: [Syrphidae] paper request


Dear all,


I have to ask you for a favor.

I need to check one publication (description of Chrysotoxum flavipenne), maybe some of you can share it as .pdf



Palma, G. 1864. Ditteri della fauna napolitana. Annali dell?Accademia degli Aspiranti Naturalisti (3) 3 [1863]: 37-66. [1864.??.??]



Thanks in advance


Best regards


Jelena A?anski


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From rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in  Mon Dec 16 13:07:06 2013
From: rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in (Kumar Ghorpade)
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:07:06 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Violovitsh's Far Eastern Chrysotoxum work
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	<0uC41n0133hSdcV01uC6Y6> <2AB275BF0A354A3F8A104EB57C664BB9@ChrisPC>
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Sorry Chris and thanks for clearing my misunderstanding. ?Chrysotoxum baphyrum clearly supports colour characters being variable ! ?And C. "violaceum" being nothing more than a junior synonym of antiquum (see Colemania # 32). ?Maybe some of you would be interested in our Pakistani Syrphidae update (Colemania # 37, PDF attached)? ?Thanks.?
?
Dr Kumar Ghorpade,?Scientist Emeritus, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate in Systematic Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA.  Registered mail to:? "Bell Bungalow," Kumareswar Colony 1st Cross, off Haliyal Road, Saptapur, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA).



On Saturday, 14 December 2013 12:10 AM, Chris Thompson <xelaalex at cox.net> wrote:
 
All:
?
Kumar?s statement about my doubts on Violovitsh work is misleading.
?
What I said was given the recent work by Suk & Han (2013) on east asian 
Chrysotoxum (in Animal Cells and Systems 17: 277-289, 2013) one needs to be very 
carefully as molecular characters strongly suggest that color characters are 
more variable and there are fewer species than previously recognized.
?
Oh, well ...
?
Sincerely,
?
Chris
?
from home
??
From: Kumar Ghorpade 
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:08 AM
To: Hoverfly discussion list 
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Palma, Chrysotoxum & 
Sommaggio
? The work of Violovitsh on Eurasian Chrysotoxum is extensive and? 
well illustrated, though Chris doubts Violovitsh's results (pers. comm.).? 
I just published on Oriental species and confirmed another aphid prey species of 
this genus -see attachments. 
?
Dr Kumar Ghorpade, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate, 
Department of Agricultural Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, 
Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal 
Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, 
INDIA.
Registered mail to:? 238 Bharatinagar, II Main, 4th Cross, 
Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA). 



On Tuesday, 26 November 2013 3:18 AM, Chris 
Thompson <xelaalex at cox.net> wrote:

All:
?
Sorry, but I am slow for various personal reasons, etc.
?
I can get this paper and generate a pdf of it for distribution.
?
BUT I am curious of why and where we are in respects to the taxonomy of 
Chrysotoxum.
?
As I remember it Daniele Sommaggio was working on a revision of this genus. 
And he was also working on the Italian syrphid types, those of Rondani and other 
authors. So, what has happened to Daniele ????
?
So ...
?
Sincerely,
?
Chris
?
from home?
From: Jelena Acanski 
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:59 AM
To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
Subject: [Syrphidae] paper request
? ?
Dear 
all,

I have to ask you 
for a favor.

I need to check one publication (description of 
Chrysotoxum flavipenne), maybe some of you can share it as .pdf


Palma, 
G. 1864. Ditteri della fauna napolitana. Annali dell?Accademia degli 
Aspiranti Naturalisti(3) 3 
[1863]: 37-66. [1864.??.??]


Thanks in advance

Best regards

Jelena A?anski
?
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From rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in  Wed Dec 25 07:11:12 2013
From: rhinobaccha at yahoo.co.in (Kumar Ghorpade)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:11:12 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [Syrphidae] Greetings !
Message-ID: <1387955472.97065.YahooMailNeo@web190906.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

Its 5 a.m. on a cold Christmas day in Dharwar (our ?cold
season? now, no ?winter? here in the tropics) and it seems most appropriate and
practical to use this site to wish my hover-flyer ?family? and friends a Merry
X?mas and a wonderful coming New Year 2014 !? May us all document further interesting and novel data on these
beautiful flies together, like the many wonderful papers published this year.? 
? We in India also
celebrate Christmas (a government holiday here, like many Hindu and Muslim
festivals) in this ancient civilization with a multi-religious, multi-lingual,
multi-ethnic population of immigrants (by sea and then overland)? from Eurasia, actually mostly from the
Euphrates-Tigris river valleys in current Iraq (Persia, Mesopotamia) as DNA
research has revealed. 
?? I was browsing
information about Alfred Russel Wallace (his centenary death anniversary fell
on 7th November 2013) for a forthcoming paper on Oriental Spheginobaccha de Meijere, and found the
following in his writings to share with you all :
?
" A very tall
Pig with a very long nose 
Sends forth a
proboscis right down to his toes,
?And then by the name of an Elephant goes, 
Which Nobody can
Deny !
?
" An Ape with
a pliable thumb and big brain, 
When the gift of
the gab he had managed to gain,
?As Lord of Creation established his reign,
?Which Nobody can Deny !
?
And my collection of ?Nonsense Rhymes? (with drawings) by
Edward Lear had nothing on flies but the following may be appropriate to help
novices distinguish a hover-fly from its bee model :
?
?There was an Old
man in? a tree,
Who was horribly
bored by a Bee;
When they said,
?Does it buzz??
He replied, ?Yes,
it does!?
?It?s a regular
brute of a Bee!?
?
Being also an ?Old? Man now (what the hell is ?old?
anyway?), I would recognize a hover-fly by the way it flies, graceful and unique, in character, unlike any bloody heavy
bee!
? And I agree with
Wallace, my teen-age years collector-explorer hero (like Gerald Durrell was,
after Jim Corbett, with his great books I bought with my pocket-money and read
in delight), when he wrote :
?
"Those who succeed in the race for
wealth are by no means the best or the most intelligent?..."? ?A.R.
Wallace (1890) ?Human Selection.?
?
Cheers and have a happy holiday after working hard all year;
take ?a break? as they say nowadays,
?
Dr Kumar Ghorpade,?Scientist Emeritus, Post-Graduate Teacher & Research Associate in Systematic Entomology, University of Agricultural Sciences, Krishi Nagar, Dharwar 580 005, Karnataka, INDIA. 
Postal Mailbox:? P.O. Box 221, K.C. Park Post Office, Dharwar 580 008, INDIA.  Registered mail to:? "Bell Bungalow," Kumareswar Colony 1st Cross, off Haliyal Road, Saptapur, Dharwar 580 001 (INDIA).
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From: eckvana at xs4all.nl (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_van_Eck?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 10:03:19 +0100
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Greetings !
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From dr_aslamkhan at mail.com  Wed Dec 25 15:35:35 2013
From: dr_aslamkhan at mail.com (Muhammad Aslamkhan)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 10:35:35 -0500
Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Greetings from Pakistan!
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Dear All,
Wishing you Merry Christmas, a Happy and Safe Holiday Season and a Most Blessed New Year 2014. May it be filled with beautiful stories, good health, love, joy, success, fruitful opportunities and prosperity for you, your family and your loved ones.
Muhammad Aslamkhan,
Lahore, Pakistan.

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