From Frank.VandeMeutter at Bio.kuleuven.be Sat May 12 18:07:23 2012 From: Frank.VandeMeutter at Bio.kuleuven.be (Frank Van de Meutter) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 19:07:23 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] attracting Brachyopa and others In-Reply-To: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D07FBC095@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D07FBC095@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FAE98CB.4040508@Bio.kuleuven.be> Hallo all, i have a question regarding saproxylic hoverflies. Last year I have been experimenting with attracting saprun hoverflies by sawing the bleeding top off from a stump of oak felled the winter before. The stump produced a sap with the typical fermenting sap odour. I have laid this piece of trunk in a Malaisetrap in a garden. I have checked the trap almost daily the next days after work. Within the first week I caught several Brachyopa bicolor, B. pilosa, good numbers of ferdinandea cuprea, Caliprobola,... All species that I had never before caught with a malaisetrap in this place. Especially B. bicolor seems often to escape the traps is my experience as it flies somewhat higher up the trees (as B. insensilis) whilst B. pilosa en B. scutellaris may be found lower on trees as well (and may be caught somewhat more frequent). Well, I conclude that this would work very efficiently if one wants to sample saproxylic sap-run species in a place, especially (as is often the case) when visible sapruns and flowering bushes are lacking and finding Brachyopa may be more difficult (I know that males can be found defending any stem in patches of sunligh, but still). I can also think of laying this piece of trunk with the sap in a suitable forest but where no sap runs can be found (or it would take hours to look for them) and attend this and stay on the lookout for Sphiximorpha, brachyopa, etc... Now, has anyone had/done similar experiences/experiments before? And more importantly, can anyone think of a way to "develop" this method, such that we can come to a standardizes method to catch such syrphids? I don't see myself walking around each year with a chainsaw in the woods looking for bleedings trunks :-) I know that the sugar rich floeem of the trees ferments to alcohol, and that using alcohol in a malaisetrap may also atract some of the above fauna, but the difference with the "real" thing is still enormous, it seems (I have used alcohol before int he garden, but never with the same succes as with the "trunk"). Alcohol also doesn't come near to the typical fermenting smell of oak or other trees (every tree species has a little bit different smell is my opinion). But could we maybe tap some sap (can be easily done from birch, maybe also other trees?) and ent it with the right bacteria to produce the attracting odour? Any experiences/ suggestions welcome! Frank From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Mon May 14 10:50:53 2012 From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 10:50:53 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: attracting Brachyopa and others In-Reply-To: <4FAE98CB.4040508@Bio.kuleuven.be> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D07FBC095@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> <4FAE98CB.4040508@Bio.kuleuven.be> Message-ID: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D563F3CF8@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> That's really interesting! Some years ago Alain Maibach did some experiments with artificial tree holes, using sawdust of different trees and beer. As far as I know it was not published, but if he is around, he may be able to give us an outline of the results. Francis -----Original Message----- From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Frank Van de Meutter Sent: 12 May 2012 18:07 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] attracting Brachyopa and others Hallo all, i have a question regarding saproxylic hoverflies. Last year I have been experimenting with attracting saprun hoverflies by sawing the bleeding top off from a stump of oak felled the winter before. The stump produced a sap with the typical fermenting sap odour. I have laid this piece of trunk in a Malaisetrap in a garden. I have checked the trap almost daily the next days after work. Within the first week I caught several Brachyopa bicolor, B. pilosa, good numbers of ferdinandea cuprea, Caliprobola,... All species that I had never before caught with a malaisetrap in this place. Especially B. bicolor seems often to escape the traps is my experience as it flies somewhat higher up the trees (as B. insensilis) whilst B. pilosa en B. scutellaris may be found lower on trees as well (and may be caught somewhat more frequent). Well, I conclude that this would work very efficiently if one wants to sample saproxylic sap-run species in a place, especially (as is often the case) when visible sapruns and flowering bushes are lacking and finding Brachyopa may be more difficult (I know that males can be found defending any stem in patches of sunligh, but still). I can also think of laying this piece of trunk with the sap in a suitable forest but where no sap runs can be found (or it would take hours to look for them) and attend this and stay on the lookout for Sphiximorpha, brachyopa, etc... Now, has anyone had/done similar experiences/experiments before? And more importantly, can anyone think of a way to "develop" this method, such that we can come to a standardizes method to catch such syrphids? I don't see myself walking around each year with a chainsaw in the woods looking for bleedings trunks :-) I know that the sugar rich floeem of the trees ferments to alcohol, and that using alcohol in a malaisetrap may also atract some of the above fauna, but the difference with the "real" thing is still enormous, it seems (I have used alcohol before int he garden, but never with the same succes as with the "trunk"). Alcohol also doesn't come near to the typical fermenting smell of oak or other trees (every tree species has a little bit different smell is my opinion). But could we maybe tap some sap (can be easily done from birch, maybe also other trees?) and ent it with the right bacteria to produce the attracting odour? Any experiences/ suggestions welcome! Frank _______________________________________________ Syrphidae mailing list Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae From Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk Thu May 17 20:09:11 2012 From: Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk (Francis Gilbert) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 20:09:11 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] ID request Message-ID: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D573D8E2F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Hi everyone Is this Arctophila bombiformis? Or is it an unusual morph of Volucella bombylans? Thanks! Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Steven Steven Falk Artist - Naturalist - Photographer www.stevenfalk.co.uk Wildlife identification & information resources at: www.flickr.com/people/63075200 at N07/ _____ From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Francis Gilbert Sent: 17 May 2012 20:09 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] ID request Hi everyone Is this Arctophila bombiformis? Or is it an unusual morph of Volucella bombylans? Thanks! Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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F Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Steven Falk Sent: 17 May 2012 20:27 To: 'Hoverfly discussion list' Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: ID request Francis, Very much Arctophila bombiformis - not in Nottinghamshire I suspect. Gorgeous creature. PS Check out the Flickr site below - British syrphids 90% finished - should feature c250 of the 270 UK species once completed with habitats shots too. May be useful for your students. I'll do the bees when I get time (I have a better library of those the the hoverflies!). I'd like to add hoverfly larvae to the folders one day too. Steven Steven Falk Artist - Naturalist - Photographer www.stevenfalk.co.uk Wildlife identification & information resources at: www.flickr.com/people/63075200 at N07/ ________________________________ From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Francis Gilbert Sent: 17 May 2012 20:09 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] ID request Hi everyone Is this Arctophila bombiformis? Or is it an unusual morph of Volucella bombylans? Thanks! Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Ximo 2012/5/17 Francis Gilbert > Hi everyone**** > > ** ** > > Is this Arctophila bombiformis?**** > > Or is it an unusual morph of Volucella bombylans?**** > > ** ** > > Thanks!**** > > ** ** > > Francis**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Dr Francis Gilbert**** > > Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology**** > > University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK**** > > Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215**** > > website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg > **** > > *ecology.nottingham.ac.uk* > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and > may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in > error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not > use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. 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Or is it an unusual morph of Volucella bombylans? Thanks! Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- ******************************************************** Dr. Ximo Mengual Head of the Diptera Section - Curator Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig Leibniz Institute for Animal Biodiversity Adenauerallee 160 D-53113 Bonn, Germany Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292 e-mail: xmengual at gmail.com https://www.bolgermany.de/ http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/ http://entomology.si.edu/StaffPages/MengualJ.html _______________________________________________ Syrphidae mailing list Syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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URL: From xelaalex at cox.net Fri May 18 13:46:09 2012 From: xelaalex at cox.net (Chris Thompson) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 08:46:09 -0400 Subject: [Syrphidae] Afrotropical flower flies = ID requests etc. In-Reply-To: References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D573D8E2F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <022C23362F3A4EBF8E7FD48A2106BC9C@ChrisPC> All: There is again an International effort among dipterists to develop a Manual of Afrotropical Diptera along the lines of the previous Nearctic (1980s), Palaearctic (1990s) and most recently Central America (2010). Ashley Kirk-Spriggs and Mike Mostovski are the general editors (see the website at http://afrotropicalmanual.net/ ) with publication expected in 2014. As with these previous efforts, I am leading a team, with Graham Rotheray doing the immatures, and myself the adults with the help of Henri Dirickx, Marc de Meyer and Axel Ssymank. The generic key is finished and I am trying to get illustrations done for it. We will probably try to publish a more comprehensive conspectus before the Manual, perhaps early next year. I have also assembled various species level keys from the literature and material. I would be happy to make these materials available to others who are willing to respect the intelligence content, etc. *** And I would be happy to help identify material. At least to generic group level, common species and in some group species. I would very much like to see any material of the cerioidine group (Ceriana, Sphiximorpha, Monoceromyia, Polybiomyia), and the rat-tailed maggots (eristalines), etc. PLEASE contact me directly at my official e-mail (thompsonf at si.edu) before mailing material (see below). Feel free to use either my personal (xelaalex at cox.net) or professional e-mail for correspondence. MAILING address for material: F. Christian Thompson Research Scientist (Emeritus) Department of Entomology NHB-0169 Smithsonian Institution PO Box 37012 Washington, DC 20013-7012 USA *** I should also note that I do maintain manuscript keys to the genera of flower flies for various regions (Nearctic, Neotropical, Palaearctic, Oriental, Australia, Oceanian, New Zealand). Most of these have been published over the years, but these MS are more up-to-date. These also are available. Species keys are available for Australia, the Neotropics, New Zealand, and the Nearctic. And as the years are fewer now, I am working on my ?magnus opus,? which will be a world conspectus including a species catalog and extensive taxonomic bibliography. Most of the species and names are in and are being up-dated periodically in our Systema Dipterorum (see www.diptera.org) but I will warn you that the version online today does not reflect what is in the master files. As we are currently an unfunded project, we are reluctant to continue to provide FREE taxonomy to the public, especially when funding organizations do not provide funding for CONTENT, only new software programs! But having said that I remains always willing and wanting to work with syrphid workers DIRECTLY and will try to do what will help them and the community privately. From: James Wolstencroft Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 5:37 AM To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] ID requests etc. On a different heading ... Please could anyone point me to recent work on, or students of afrotropical: Syrphidae, Tabanidae and Asilidae? I see a few species, some quite frequently, in my field work in northern Tanzania, and increasingly at Tonkolili in north central Sierra Leone. I am hardly an amateur - dipterist - but would very much like to correspond with others who are more knowledgeable. Many thanks, James Wolstencroft On 17 May 2012, at 22:21, ximo mengual sanchis wrote: I would say it is Arctophila bombiformis based on the facial profile, and facial and thorax coloration. Best! Ximo 2012/5/17 Francis Gilbert Hi everyone Is this Arctophila bombiformis? Or is it an unusual morph of Volucella bombylans? Thanks! Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. 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URL: From steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk Fri May 18 16:28:27 2012 From: steven at sfalk.wanadoo.co.uk (Steven Falk) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:28:27 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: ID requests etc. In-Reply-To: References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D573D8E2F@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: James, I've cc'd this to Malcolm Smart, who may well know. Boy I envy you, so much want to see those Laetoli footprints, Olduvai Gorge etc. May plan something in the next few years as Tanzania blew my brother away last year. Best wishes, Steven Steven Falk Artist - Naturalist - Photographer www.stevenfalk.co.uk Wildlife identification & information resources at: www.flickr.com/people/63075200 at N07/ _____ From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of James Wolstencroft Sent: 18 May 2012 10:38 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] ID requests etc. On a different heading ... Please could anyone point me to recent work on, or students of afrotropical: Syrphidae, Tabanidae and Asilidae? I see a few species, some quite frequently, in my field work in northern Tanzania, and increasingly at Tonkolili in north central Sierra Leone. I am hardly an amateur - dipterist - but would very much like to correspond with others who are more knowledgeable. Many thanks, James Wolstencroft On 17 May 2012, at 22:21, ximo mengual sanchis wrote: I would say it is Arctophila bombiformis based on the facial profile, and facial and thorax coloration. Best! Ximo 2012/5/17 Francis Gilbert Hi everyone Is this Arctophila bombiformis? Or is it an unusual morph of Volucella bombylans? Thanks! 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If anyone else has an opinion on whether this is a strange morph of Volucella bombylans or Arctophila bombiformis, especially those who have actually seen Arctophila bombiformis in nature, then please feel free to let me know. The photo was taken by Professor Pat Willmer on 2 Sept 2005 in her garden near St Andrews, Scotland. If it is this species, it will of course be new to Great Britain - hence the interest! Best wishes Francis Dr Francis Gilbert www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg School of Biology, University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK (+44)(0)115 951 3215 This email is private and may be confidential. It is intended for the recipient(s) only. If misdirected, please notify me and confirm that it has been deleted from your system. You are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this email or any information contained in it to third parties without the permission of the originator. 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Well, would have guessed you were the one to reply first... thank you very much again! Cheers, Andr? PS Did I ever send you my paper, checklist of Portuguese Syrphidae? Francis Gilbert schreef op 2012-05-21 11:32: > with best wishes > > Francis > > FROM: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF eckvana > SENT: 21 May 2012 10:31 > TO: Hoverfly discussion list > SUBJECT: [Syrphidae] Paper with Rhingia terminalia drawings > > Dear colleages, > > I am looking for the following paper, preferrably as pdf: > > Barkemeyer, W. (1986) Zum Vorkommen seltener und bemerkenswerter Schwebfliegen in Niedersachsen > (Diptera, Syrphidae). Drosera, '86(2): 79-88. > > Can anyone provide me a copy? > Thank you very much! > > Andr? van Eck > Tilburg, > Netherlands > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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URL: From eckvana at xs4all.nl Mon May 21 11:06:08 2012 From: eckvana at xs4all.nl (eckvana) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:06:08 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Arctophila bombiformis In-Reply-To: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D573D908D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D573D908D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <700a7f5a698d2d33fe357f367969ffb7@xs4all.nl> Dear Francis, With a face like that, it can only be one. Hence the ID is correct: Arctophila bombiformis! Greetings, Andr? van Eck Tilburg Netherlands Francis Gilbert schreef op 2012-05-21 10:28: > hi everyone > > Thanks to all who responded to my request. If anyone else has an opinion on whether this is a strange morph of Volucella bombylans or Arctophila bombiformis, especially those who have actually seen Arctophila bombiformis in nature, then please feel free to let me know. > > The photo was taken by Professor Pat Willmer on 2 Sept 2005 in her garden near St Andrews, Scotland. If it is this species, it will of course be new to Great Britain - hence the interest! > > Best wishes > > Francis > > Dr Francis Gilbert > www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg > > School of Biology, University Park, > > University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK > (+44)(0)115 951 3215 > > This email is private and may be confidential. It is intended for the recipient(s) only. If misdirected, please notify me and confirm that it has been deleted from your system. You are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this email or any information contained in it to third parties without the permission of the originator. Nothing contained within this email is intended to constitute or imply the basis of a contract with the recipient. 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You are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this email or any information contained in it to third parties without the permission of the originator. Nothing contained within this email is intended to constitute or imply the basis of a contract with the recipient. All contracts can only be entered into following signature by an authorised signatory of the University of Nottingham. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MalcolmSmart at talktalk.net Mon May 21 16:42:19 2012 From: MalcolmSmart at talktalk.net (MalcolmSmart at talktalk.net) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:42:19 +0100 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Arctophila bombiformis References: Message-ID: <4D1D66AF64514CD68A25733B3EB73401@m9f119e4066174> I'm glad to hear that the picture was taken in Switzerland as it very definitely is Arctophila. The wing venation of A. bombiformis is quite different from V. bombylans. The attached picture shows an extract of the wing from the original picture with photographs of the wings of both species from specimens in my collection placed in similar positions. The ratio of the lengths of the second and third sections of M1 is completely different (see red lines), as is the degree of re-entry of the final section of M1 (blue lines). The face of Volucella is covered in dense pile, that of Arctophila is just dusted. V. bombylans from UK, A. bombyformis from Spain. Malcolm Smart ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:37 AM Subject: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 71, Issue 9 > Send Syrphidae mailing list submissions to > syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > syrphidae-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > syrphidae-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Syrphidae digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Paper with Rhingia terminalia drawings (eckvana) > 2. Re: Arctophila bombiformis (eckvana) > 3. oh dear..... (Francis Gilbert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:55:05 +0200 > From: eckvana > To: Hoverfly discussion list > Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Paper with Rhingia terminalia drawings > Message-ID: <7f20912ff770168e6ba83f77f5a1829e at xs4all.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Dear Francis! > > Did you know that you were the first person I was > thinking of asking it to, personally! > Well, would have guessed you were > the one to reply first... thank you very much again! > > Cheers, Andr? > PS > Did I ever send you my paper, checklist of Portuguese Syrphidae? > > > Francis Gilbert schreef op 2012-05-21 11:32: > >> with best wishes >> > >> Francis >> >> FROM: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF eckvana >> > SENT: 21 May 2012 10:31 >> TO: Hoverfly discussion list >> SUBJECT: > [Syrphidae] Paper with Rhingia terminalia drawings >> >> Dear colleages, > >> >> I am looking for the following paper, preferrably as pdf: >> >> > Barkemeyer, W. (1986) Zum Vorkommen seltener und bemerkenswerter > Schwebfliegen in Niedersachsen >> (Diptera, Syrphidae). Drosera, '86(2): > 79-88. >> >> Can anyone provide me a copy? >> Thank you very much! >> >> > Andr? van Eck >> Tilburg, >> Netherlands >> >> This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email > do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> > >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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If > anyone else has an opinion on whether this is a strange morph of > Volucella bombylans or Arctophila bombiformis, especially those who have > actually seen Arctophila bombiformis in nature, then please feel free to > let me know. >> >> The photo was taken by Professor Pat Willmer on 2 > Sept 2005 in her garden near St Andrews, Scotland. If it is this > species, it will of course be new to Great Britain - hence the interest! > >> >> Best wishes >> >> Francis >> >> Dr Francis Gilbert >> > www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg >> >> School of Biology, University Park, >> > >> University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK >> (+44)(0)115 951 > 3215 >> >> This email is private and may be confidential. It is intended > for the recipient(s) only. If misdirected, please notify me and confirm > that it has been deleted from your system. 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Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this > email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of > Nottingham. >> >> This message has been checked for viruses but the > contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could > damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. > Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored > as permitted by UK legislation. > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:36:01 +0100 > From: Francis Gilbert > To: Hoverfly discussion list > Cc: Roger Morris > Subject: [Syrphidae] oh dear..... > Message-ID: > <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D573D9145 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Pat now has searched it down more thoroughly and tells me that the photo > must have been taken in Switzerland, NOT in St Andrews!! > > Sorry to have been mistaken... got very excited for one moment! > > As Roger said, best to be sure! > > Best wishes > > Francis > > > > Dr Francis Gilbert > www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg > School of Biology, University Park, > University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK > (+44)(0)115 951 3215 > > This email is private and may be confidential. 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Name: ArctophilaVolucellaWingComp.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 69769 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sarthou at ensat.fr Mon May 21 17:19:01 2012 From: sarthou at ensat.fr (Jean-Pierre SARTHOU) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 18:19:01 +0200 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Arctophila bombiformis In-Reply-To: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D573D908D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D573D908D@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4FBA6AF5.6060908@ensat.fr> Hi Francis, According to me, this hoverfly is undoubtedly Arctophila bombiformis and not at all Volucella bombylans, even a strange specimen. You can see on the attached pictures the resemblance with A. bombiformis (picture taken in the Pyr?n?es), and not at all with V. bombylans (idem). See in particular the shape of the face in side view. Best regards, Jean-Pierre Le 21/05/2012 10:28, Francis Gilbert a ?crit : > > hi everyone > > Thanks to all who responded to my request. If anyone else has an > opinion on whether this is a strange morph of Volucella bombylans or > Arctophila bombiformis, especially those who have actually seen > Arctophila bombiformis in nature, then please feel free to let me know. > > The photo was taken by Professor Pat Willmer on 2 Sept 2005 in her > garden near St Andrews, Scotland. If it is this species, it will of > course be new to Great Britain - hence the interest! > > Best wishes > > Francis > > Dr Francis Gilbert > www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg > > School of Biology, University Park, > > University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK > (+44)(0)115 951 3215 > > This email is private and may be confidential.It is intended for the > recipient(s) only.If misdirected, please notify me and confirm that it > has been deleted from your system. You are strictly prohibited from > using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this email or > any information contained in it to third parties without the > permission of the originator.Nothing contained within this email is > intended to constitute or imply the basis of a contract with the > recipient.All contracts can only be entered into following signature > by an authorised signatory of the University of Nottingham. > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete > it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in > this message or in any attachment. 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Francis Dr Francis Gilbert Associate Professor of Ecology, School of Biology University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK Tel: +44 (0) 115 951 3215 website: www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg ecology.nottingham.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of MalcolmSmart at talktalk.net Sent: 21 May 2012 16:42 To: syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Arctophila bombiformis I'm glad to hear that the picture was taken in Switzerland as it very definitely is Arctophila. The wing venation of A. bombiformis is quite different from V. bombylans. The attached picture shows an extract of the wing from the original picture with photographs of the wings of both species from specimens in my collection placed in similar positions. The ratio of the lengths of the second and third sections of M1 is completely different (see red lines), as is the degree of re-entry of the final section of M1 (blue lines). The face of Volucella is covered in dense pile, that of Arctophila is just dusted. V. bombylans from UK, A. bombyformis from Spain. Malcolm Smart ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:37 AM Subject: Syrphidae Digest, Vol 71, Issue 9 > Send Syrphidae mailing list submissions to > syrphidae at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/syrphidae > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > syrphidae-request at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > syrphidae-owner at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Syrphidae digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Paper with Rhingia terminalia drawings (eckvana) > 2. Re: Arctophila bombiformis (eckvana) > 3. oh dear..... (Francis Gilbert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:55:05 +0200 > From: eckvana > To: Hoverfly discussion list > Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: Paper with Rhingia terminalia drawings > Message-ID: <7f20912ff770168e6ba83f77f5a1829e at xs4all.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Dear Francis! > > Did you know that you were the first person I was > thinking of asking it to, personally! > Well, would have guessed you were > the one to reply first... thank you very much again! > > Cheers, Andr? > PS > Did I ever send you my paper, checklist of Portuguese Syrphidae? > > > Francis Gilbert schreef op 2012-05-21 11:32: > >> with best wishes >> > >> Francis >> >> FROM: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk > [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] ON BEHALF OF eckvana >> > SENT: 21 May 2012 10:31 >> TO: Hoverfly discussion list >> SUBJECT: > [Syrphidae] Paper with Rhingia terminalia drawings >> >> Dear colleages, > >> >> I am looking for the following paper, preferrably as pdf: >> >> > Barkemeyer, W. (1986) Zum Vorkommen seltener und bemerkenswerter > Schwebfliegen in Niedersachsen >> (Diptera, Syrphidae). Drosera, '86(2): > 79-88. >> >> Can anyone provide me a copy? >> Thank you very much! >> >> > Andr? van Eck >> Tilburg, >> Netherlands >> >> This message and any > attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, > copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any > attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email > do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. >> > >> This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. 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If > anyone else has an opinion on whether this is a strange morph of > Volucella bombylans or Arctophila bombiformis, especially those who have > actually seen Arctophila bombiformis in nature, then please feel free to > let me know. >> >> The photo was taken by Professor Pat Willmer on 2 > Sept 2005 in her garden near St Andrews, Scotland. If it is this > species, it will of course be new to Great Britain - hence the interest! > >> >> Best wishes >> >> Francis >> >> Dr Francis Gilbert >> > www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg >> >> School of Biology, University Park, >> > >> University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK >> (+44)(0)115 951 > 3215 >> >> This email is private and may be confidential. It is intended > for the recipient(s) only. If misdirected, please notify me and confirm > that it has been deleted from your system. 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We live in hope though. Just back from a sweltering Sussex, looking at coastal grazing marsh. Lejogaster tarsata and Orthonevra brevicornis common at a couple of sites, and I seem to have got photos of both sexes of Anasimyia transfuga, but need to double-check. I rarely ever encounter it these days. Lejops not quite flying yet, though has turned up at three sites in previous years (see Flickr link below for images). Steven Steven Falk Artist - Naturalist - Photographer www.stevenfalk.co.uk Wildlife identification & information resources at: www.flickr.com/people/63075200 at N07/ _____ From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Francis Gilbert Sent: 21 May 2012 11:36 To: Hoverfly discussion list Cc: Roger Morris Subject: [Syrphidae] oh dear..... Pat now has searched it down more thoroughly and tells me that the photo must have been taken in Switzerland, NOT in St Andrews!! Sorry to have been mistaken... got very excited for one moment! As Roger said, best to be sure! Best wishes Francis Dr Francis Gilbert www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg School of Biology, University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK (+44)(0)115 951 3215 This email is private and may be confidential. It is intended for the recipient(s) only. If misdirected, please notify me and confirm that it has been deleted from your system. You are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this email or any information contained in it to third parties without the permission of the originator. Nothing contained within this email is intended to constitute or imply the basis of a contract with the recipient. All contracts can only be entered into following signature by an authorised signatory of the University of Nottingham. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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Steven Steven Falk Artist - Naturalist - Photographer www.stevenfalk.co.uk Wildlife identification & information resources at: www.flickr.com/people/63075200 at N07/ _____ From: syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:syrphidae-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of eckvana Sent: 21 May 2012 10:31 To: Hoverfly discussion list Subject: [Syrphidae] Paper with Rhingia terminalia drawings Dear colleages, I am looking for the following paper, preferrably as pdf: Barkemeyer, W. (1986) Zum Vorkommen seltener und bemerkenswerter Schwebfliegen in Niedersachsen (Diptera, Syrphidae). Drosera, '86(2): 79-88. Can anyone provide me a copy? Thank you very much! Andr? van Eck Tilburg, Netherlands This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. 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Many cheers to all, Gil 2012/5/29 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:42:05 +0100 > From: Francis Gilbert > To: Hoverfly discussion list > Subject: [Syrphidae] timing of the next Symposium > Message-ID: > < > 37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D576E7CC6 at EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > hi everyone > > As we decided at the Glasgow meeting, the next Symposium in 2013 is being > organised for Novosibirsk in Russia, with a field trip to the Altai > mountains. > > All of June is possible, so Anatolii Barkalov asks exactly when might > people best be able to come? We could have it in early June (which I could > make, since later clashes with my university exam boards), mid-June or late > June. > > What do people think? Please reply so we can get a consensus so as to > maximise the numbers who can come. > > Best wishes > > Francis > > > Dr Francis Gilbert > www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg > School of Biology, University Park, > University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK > (+44)(0)115 951 3215 > > > > -- Gil Felipe Gon?alves Miranda, PhD. Bi?logo/Entom?logo (Biologist/Entomologist) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bolsista de P?s-Doutorado J?nior (PDJ/CNPq/MCT) Endere?o (address): Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas da Amaz?nia (INPA) Laborat?rio de Entomologia Sistem?tica, Urbana e Forense (LESUF/CEPEN) Av. Andr? Araujo, 2936, Aleixo CEP: 69060-001 - Manaus, AM, Brasil Telefones (phone numbers): Celular (mobile): (55) (92) 8129-2238 (TIM) Profissional (office): (55) (92) 3643-3206 E-mail: gilfgm at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All of June is possible, so Anatolii Barkalov asks exactly when might people best be able to come? We could have it in early June (which I could make, since later clashes with my university exam boards), mid-June or late June. What do people think? Please reply so we can get a consensus so as to maximise the numbers who can come. Best wishes Francis Dr Francis Gilbert www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg School of Biology, University Park, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK (+44)(0)115 951 3215 This email is private and may be confidential. It is intended for the recipient(s) only. If misdirected, please notify me and confirm that it has been deleted from your system. You are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this email or any information contained in it to third parties without the permission of the originator. Nothing contained within this email is intended to constitute or imply the basis of a contract with the recipient. 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What do you think? regards, Bastiaan - -- gpg: https://wakkie.org/FA3DED4C.asc gpg fp: 376B 6035 CD31 6437 A0FD 3165 C255 CD3D FA3D ED4C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPxdwJAAoJEMXnquPmfeGmPuUH/0xeE+ai4MnrL3Wyhkdbc/I3 2c6fwxGDBV4t2j7dfBk7B2/ALasBaMTvPXwXv2Ak2Kmd4RvCJtd/3ntOKlP6vXKO WJbGt/HQ1QJplX6rE/pOKN2TETd9YgJqMKWPT/rIRjUjPxefUKldC38OJ2j/aLbM GDm7UqKwPNKSytsxva4ZauxP4Qw6Ree29QUozawOeVA5iYHE/6bF4ubn0Y4/fpyA zcNKsYAzjmEj6OWQ+CRWnONkF1Jc7tbuwsBChtpUZq7LbXlyAWE62YtcmEA1bBlC CL4HTU3HjotPBQmoDApHKZmOUyfXXL7lHxTrB8L2zdDJg878ry0PZ1u8Fzym+Ks= =wrQ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Jeff -- Jeff Skevington, Research Scientist Canadian National Collection of Insects, Arachnids and Nematodes Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada 960 Carling Avenue, K.W. Neatby Building Ottawa, ON, K1A 0C6, Canada Phone: 613-759-1647 FAX: 613-759-1927 E-mail: jhskevington at gmail.com or jeffrey.skevington at agr.gc.ca From brigitte.howarth at gmail.com Wed May 30 15:42:29 2012 From: brigitte.howarth at gmail.com (Brigitte Howarth) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:42:29 +0400 Subject: [Syrphidae] Re: timing of the next Symposium In-Reply-To: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D576E7CC6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <37D2AE0AED301E4ABCCD948B16BD78AA3D576E7CC6@EXCHANGE1.ad.nottingham.ac.uk> Message-ID: Greetings from the UAE! We don't finish the academic year till June 20th so for me, late June. However, as I'm not contributing just now (maybe by then I might...), decision should depend on the bulk of those that would be able to contribute, I'd say. Best, Brigitte On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Francis Gilbert < Francis.Gilbert at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > hi everyone**** > > ** ** > > As we decided at the Glasgow meeting, the next Symposium in 2013 is being > organised for Novosibirsk in Russia, with a field trip to the Altai > mountains.**** > > ** ** > > All of June is possible, so Anatolii Barkalov asks exactly when might > people best be able to come? We could have it in early June (which I could > make, since later clashes with my university exam boards), mid-June or late > June.**** > > ** ** > > What do people think? Please reply so we can get a consensus so as to > maximise the numbers who can come.**** > > ** ** > > Best wishes**** > > ** ** > > Francis**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Dr Francis Gilbert > www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg**** > > School of Biology, University Park, **** > > University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK > (+44)(0)115 951 3215**** > > ** ** > > This email is private and may be confidential. 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All of June is possible for me as well. > > Best wishes > > Wouter > > Wouter van Steenis > Vogelmelk 4 > 3621 TP Breukelen > The Netherlands > > *From:* Francis Gilbert > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:42 AM > *To:* Hoverfly discussion list > *Subject:* [Syrphidae] timing of the next Symposium > > > hi everyone**** > > **** > > As we decided at the Glasgow meeting, the next Symposium in 2013 is being > organised for Novosibirsk in Russia, with a field trip to the Altai > mountains.**** > > **** > > All of June is possible, so Anatolii Barkalov asks exactly when might > people best be able to come? We could have it in early June (which I could > make, since later clashes with my university exam boards), mid-June or late > June.**** > > **** > > What do people think? 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I will make updates now and then. Please send it before the end of june so we can plan other things. The following questions will be asked: 1 do you want to have the symposium in a weekend (beginning on thursday and ending on sunday) 2 do you want to go on a collecting trip to the Far East (Komsomolsk region) 3 do you want to go to a collecting trip further south into the Altai mountains (high Altai) 4 when do you want to go on the collecting trip to the Far east 5 which week do you want to have the symposium Hope many more will respond, otherwise it is probably Anatolii who decides and then the date will be as already announced. Best wishes, Jeroen Op Wo, 30 mei, 2012 5:07 pm schreef ximo mengual sanchis: > Hello everyone, > > > I have no preference but it would be nice to arrange the dates with the > collecting season and try that our "Nearctic" colleagues have the chance > to join us. > > Best wishes, > > > Ximo > > > > ******************************************************** > Dr. Ximo Mengual > Head of the Diptera Section - Curator > Zoologisches Forschungsmuseum Alexander Koenig > Leibniz Institute for Animal Biodiversity > Adenauerallee 160 > D-53113 Bonn, Germany > Phone: 0049 (0)228 9122 292 > ZFMK web > > | SI web > https://www.bolgermany.de/ | http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/ > > > 2012/5/30 Wouter van Steenis > > >> Dear all, >> >> >> great to hear this! I?m looking forward to see you all at the Russia >> meeting. All of June is possible for me as well. >> >> Best wishes >> >> >> Wouter >> >> >> Wouter van Steenis >> Vogelmelk 4 >> 3621 TP Breukelen >> The Netherlands >> >> >> *From:* Francis Gilbert >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:42 AM >> *To:* Hoverfly discussion list >> *Subject:* [Syrphidae] timing of the next Symposium >> >> >> >> hi everyone**** >> >> **** >> >> >> As we decided at the Glasgow meeting, the next Symposium in 2013 is >> being organised for Novosibirsk in Russia, with a field trip to the >> Altai >> mountains.**** >> >> **** >> >> >> All of June is possible, so Anatolii Barkalov asks exactly when might >> people best be able to come? We could have it in early June (which I >> could make, since later clashes with my university exam boards), >> mid-June or late June.**** >> >> >> **** >> >> >> What do people think? Please reply so we can get a consensus so as to >> maximise the numbers who can come.**** >> >> **** >> >> >> Best wishes**** >> >> >> **** >> >> >> Francis**** >> >> >> **** >> >> >> **** >> >> >> Dr Francis Gilbert >> www.nottingham.ac.uk/~plzfg **** >> >> School of Biology, University Park, **** >> >> >> University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, UK >> (+44)(0)115 951 3215**** >> >> >> **** >> >> >> This email is private and may be confidential. It is intended for the >> recipient(s) only. If misdirected, please notify me and confirm that it >> has been deleted from your system. You are strictly prohibited from >> using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this email or >> any information contained in it to third parties without the permission >> of the originator. Nothing contained within this email is intended to >> constitute or imply the basis of a contract with the recipient. 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Name: planning of time of symposium Novosibirsk.doc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 51200 bytes Desc: not available URL: From j.van.steenis at xmsnet.nl Thu May 31 12:12:52 2012 From: j.van.steenis at xmsnet.nl (Jeroen van Steenis) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 13:12:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Syrphidae] [Fwd: Re: collecting after Syrphidae symposium] Message-ID: <2146.85.223.26.53.1338462772.squirrel@webmail.xtramediaservices.nl> Dear All See the mail below from Valeri! Seems the best option to go to the Far East is before the Symposium, no matter when the symposium will be. So everyone willing to go to the 3-6 days long pre-conference trip can mail me. The post-conference trip will be devided in two parts. The first part is the sceduled trip to Lake Teleskoe (at the foot of the Altai mountains) lasting 2 entire collecting days. Additional to this trip I (together with Anatolii?) will arrange an extended trip into the high Altai of about 2-4 days. I will keep in toutch with all of you. Best wishes, Jeroen ------------------------- Oorspronkelijk bericht ------------------------- Onderwerp: Re: collecting after Syrphidae symposium Van: Mutin Valeri Datum: Do, 31 mei, 2012 12:44 pm Aan: Jeroen van Steenis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Jeroen, Last spring was late but warm. During May temperature was sometimes more 30 degrees as well as today. The beginning of June is very favourable time to collect syrphids. The majority of species are present as imago. Some vernal species are yet in mountains near Komsomolsk or in coast of Tatar strait. At the same time typical summer species (Mallota, Temnostoma, Xylota) appear in plains. With cordial wishes, Valery Wed, 30 May 2012 22:00:50 +0200 (CEST) ???? "Jeroen van Steenis" : > Dear Valeri > > How is life in the Far East? Has spring begun already? Hope the winter > cold has gone. > > Here it is nice and warm with many Syrphidae out again, and nice weather > for family walks. > > I wonder if you could tell me what a good time is to collect Syrphidae in > the Far East. Anatolii plans the Symposium somewhere in june, probably > half or end of june. After that I plan to go to the high Altai mountains > for some days. Is it better to go to Komsomolsk in early july or better in > early june? > > Which time could you go with us on the collecting trip, is this possible > in early july? > > Hope to hear from you. > > Best wishes, Jeroen. > > > >