<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the response and the resource, Stuart.<div>David</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 2:22 PM Stuart McNaughton <<a href="mailto:s.mcnaughton@auckland.ac.nz">s.mcnaughton@auckland.ac.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-5593689685269077693">
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Thank you so much for responding, and also thanks to other members who have made comments. I owe much to Marie and her work, having been mentored by her and then worked with her. The deliberate misrepresentation of her science and it’s applications is as you
have said, galling. I will just add two things from a local perspective. Our recent experiences highlight once again the need to keep the forms of reasoning to which Allan refers in the forefront of what we collectively do, they so easily get overtaken by
selective and limited reasoning. But the misrepresentation is symptomatic of a wider problem, about which we have to think very smartly -how best through education to build the skills required to be resilient in the face of mis – dis – and mal information;
what a colleague in the science advisory system here prefers to call ’polluted information’. You may be interested in what we are engaging in at a system level:
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I too wish to thank you for taking the time to write and set the record straight. I too never met Professor Clay but the legacy of her work which you've aptly described - detailed attention to early learners, practitioner-based design research, individual face-to-face
diagnostic assessment, the integration of reading/writing, attention to the significance of syntactic knowledge and orthography, models of guided reading, and so much more - remains. It is still significant and powerful. </div>
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Like many of us, I too was involved in policy debates, government meetings over literacy policy and funding during this period. But one did not have to be a strong advocate of Reading Recovery to acknowledge and engage with Professor Clay's insights and models.
Yes, there were tough debates, contested evidence-bases and there were profound scholarly and scientific differences between us. But I found this piece to be a rancid selective history, packed with journalistic innuendo and the <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">narrative
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Thanks for writing, David. And thanks again to Professor Marie Clay. </div>
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Thank you for writing this essay on Marie Clay's legacy. I've read the piece in its entirety and am grateful that you posted it both here and in Facebook. Although I never met Marie Clay in person, I certainly know of her work and agree that Reading Recovery
has stood the test of time. Setting the record straight in this troubled time when those who would dismiss the value of her contributions to the reading and literacies field is indeed important. </div>
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You stepped up to the plate, as you always, do.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I posted the attached piece on FaceBook out of respect from one of our departed RHF colleagues, Marie Clay, whose contributions have been called into question in an APM series of podcasts by Emily Hanford with the umbrella title of
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Sold a Story</a>. I have listened to the first two, and I'm focusing on the second, which is mainly about Marie Clay's work. Hanford unpacks her account of Marie's contributions and goes on to tell us why they are misguided. To quote Hanford, "<span style="color:rgb(0,7,0);font-family:"Gotham SSm A","Gotham SSm B",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">In
this episode, I’m gonna tell you where this idea comes from. I’m gonna tell you what’s wrong with it.<span>" I've embedded a link to the piece I posted on FaceBook, a medium which not all of us use. </span></span>
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whole piece here</a>. My piece is not really about Hanford. It is really my 15 year overdue piece about Marie's legacy in our field. That said, I think we all need to be aware of Hanford's reporting and its impact on policy. </span></span>
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honoring her contributions to the field. And it has rested in a comfortable sinecure in the cloud since that time. About a week ago, I happened on an American Public Media podcast by Emily Hanford, one that cast doubt on the professional contributions of Marie
Clay. Essentially, Hanford blamed Dame Clay for America’s dismal reading performance when Clay offered teachers an approach to promoting reading development that, at least according to Hanford, is just plain wrong. And it is wrong, Hanford added, because it
is at odds with what we know because of recent advances in the science of reading. Time to right that wrong by restoring phonics first and fast to the top slot in our reading curriculum.<span> </span></font></p>
<p style="margin:0in;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-indent:0.5in"><font face="arial, sans-serif">I was appalled and angered by this indictment for two reasons: (a) it is based on a limited portrayal of scientific reading research (dare I say, just plain wrong?), and
(b) it was directed at scholar who has left us a rich, perhaps unparalled, legacy of understandings about the nature of reading acquisition, one to be celebrated not denigrated. At the height of my rage, I remembered this unfinished tribute. Thanks to the
search affordances of our digital age, I found it—as I said, resting comfortably in the cloud. So, I got to work and finished it for this occasion (Finally met the deadline! Thanks for your patience, Marie). Today, I’ll forego a point-by-point counter to Hanford’s
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