<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">More on the reading wars . . .  other voices added. </div><div><br></div><div><div style="display:flex;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Franklin,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div style="display:flex"><div><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/valerie-strauss/" style="color:rgb(25,85,165);text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank"><div style="text-align:center"><img width="55" height="55" src="https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://s3.amazonaws.com/arc-authors/washpost/cac52e29-0057-4b0e-981e-4d97846d81e4.png&w=55&h=55" style="border-radius:50%"></div></a></div><div style="font-family:Franklin,arial,sans-serif;line-height:1.25;display:inline-block"><div>By <div style="display:inline-block"><div><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/valerie-strauss/" style="color:rgb(25,85,165);text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank"><span>Valerie Strauss</span></a></div></div></div><div>Reporter</div></div></div><div style="font-family:Franklin,arial,sans-serif;line-height:1.25"><div>Oct. 30, 2018 at 3:00 a.m. MST</div></div></div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Franklin,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div><blockquote style="border-width:0px 0px 0px 4px;border-top-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-style:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-bottom-style:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:georgia,"Times New Roman",serif;line-height:1.75"><div>The larger point is that the conflict is a waste of time, and I suspect most people know it.</div><cite style="display:block">Professor Daniel Willingham on the "reading wars"</cite></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div><div class="gmail-yuRUbf" style="line-height:1.58;color:rgb(32,33,36);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2018/10/30/why-reading-wars-are-waste-time/" style="color:rgb(102,0,153)"><br><h3 class="gmail-LC20lb gmail-DKV0Md" style="font-size:20px;font-weight:normal;margin:0px 0px 3px;padding:4px 0px 0px;display:inline-block;line-height:1.3">Why the 'reading wars' are a waste of time - The Washington ...</h3><div class="gmail-TbwUpd gmail-NJjxre" style="display:inline-block;padding-bottom:1px;padding-top:1px"><cite class="gmail-iUh30 gmail-Zu0yb gmail-qLRx3b gmail-tjvcx" style="color:rgb(32,33,36);font-style:normal;font-size:14px;padding-top:1px;line-height:1.3">https://www.washingtonpost.com<span class="gmail-dyjrff gmail-qzEoUe" style="color:rgb(95,99,104)"> › 2018/10/30 › why-r...</span></cite></div></a><div class="gmail-B6fmyf" style="height:0px;white-space:nowrap"><div class="gmail-TbwUpd" style="display:inline-block;padding-bottom:1px;padding-top:1px"><cite class="gmail-iUh30 gmail-Zu0yb gmail-qLRx3b gmail-tjvcx" style="font-style:normal;font-size:14px;padding-top:1px;line-height:1.3"><span class="gmail-dyjrff gmail-qzEoUe" style="color:rgb(95,99,104)"></span></cite></div><div class="eFM0qc" style="display:inline-block;padding-bottom:1px;padding-top:1px;padding-left:2px"><div class="gmail-action-menu" style="display:inline;margin:1px 3px 0px;vertical-align:middle"><a class="gmail-GHDvEf" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Valer+Strauss+Octl.+30+2018&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS889US889&oq=Valer+Strauss+Octl.+30+2018&aqs=chrome..69i57.52452j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#" id="gmail-am-b1" style="color:rgb(102,0,153);text-decoration-line:none;display:inline-block;height:12px;margin-top:1px;width:13px"><span class="gmail-mn-dwn-arw" style="border-color:rgb(112,117,122) transparent;border-style:solid;border-width:5px 4px 0px;width:0px;height:0px;margin-left:3px"></span></a><ol class="gmail-action-menu-panel" tabindex="-1" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:1px solid rgba(0,0,0,0.2);font-size:13px"><li class="gmail-action-menu-item" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style:none"><a class="gmail-fl" href="https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Sz64Uw-mBpYJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2018/10/30/why-reading-wars-are-waste-time/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us" style="color:rgb(60,64,67);text-decoration-line:none;display:block;padding:7px 18px;outline:0px"></a></li></ol></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail-IsZvec" style="max-width:48em;color:rgb(77,81,86);line-height:1.58;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div><br></div><div><div style="display:flex;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Franklin,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="display:flex">Y<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">etta Goodman </span></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></di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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Cambria;border-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold""><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold";border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-size:12px;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</div><div>P. David Pearson</div><div>Evelyn Lois Corey <b>Emeritus</b> Professor of Instructional Science</div><div>Graduate School of Education</div><div>University of California, Berkeley</div><div><br></div><div>email:  <a href="mailto:ppearson@berkeley.edu" target="_blank">ppearson@berkeley.edu</a></div><div>other e-mail:  <a href="mailto:pdavidpearsondean@gmail.com" target="_blank">pdavidpearsondean@gmail.com</a></div><div><span style="text-decoration:underline">website for publications</span>:  <a href="http://www.pdavidpearson.org" target="_blank">www.pdavidpearson.org</a></div><div></div><div>*******************</div><div><b><font color="#674ea7">Please use HOME ADDRESS for responses</font></b></div><div>Home:  851 Euclid Ave</div><div>Berkeley, CA  94708 -1305</div><div>iPhone:  510 543 6508</div><div>****************************************</div><div><br></div></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><i><font size="2"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Yetta Goodman, Regents Professor Emerita</font><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="1">University of Arizona, College of Education</font></i></div><div><i><font size="1">home address:  7914 S Galilleo Lane, </font></i><i><font size="1">Tucson AZ.85747-9609</font></i></div><div><span style="font-size:large"><br></span></div><div><u style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">ht<a href="http://www.retrospectivemiscue.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">tp://www.retrospectivemiscue.com</a></u><br></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><i><font size="2">No child needs to be motivated to learn. To learn is their trade.</font></i><br></div><div><div><font size="2"><i>They can't stop learning because they can't stop growing.</i><br></font></div><div><i><font size="2">             <font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Emilia Ferreiro, 2003 </font></font></i></div></div><div><i><font size="2"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="2">Every time we teach a child something, we keep him/her from </font></i></div><div><i><font size="2"></font></i><i><font size="2">inventing it. On the other hand, that which we allow </font></i><i><font size="2">him/her </font></i><i><font size="2">to</font></i></div><div><i><font size="2">discover will remain visible for </font></i><i><font size="2">the rest of his/her life. </font></i></div><div><i><font size="2">               <font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Jean Piaget</font></font></i></div><div><i><font size="2"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="2"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="2"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="2"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="2"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="2"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="2"><br></font></i></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>