[MathsEducation] The resource for the course
Celia Hoyles
choyles@ioe.ac.uk
Sun, 23 Sep 2001 08:51:01 +0100
Briefly may I wholeheartedly agree with Tony Ralston
Through the Jont Mathematical Council that involves Maths ed and=20
mathematician (and many more) we are united in our concerns about=20
testing  and have indeed made representations to the Government on=20
this point
Now to date we have had rather little success I must admit  but if=20
we can set up this Advisory Committee in Maths Ed which we hope to do=20
rather soon this will be one of the first items of our agenda for=20
discussion at the Department.
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> > Romulo Lins asks:
> >
> > "Why didn't British educationalists (teachers and
> > researchers and developers) resist the National Curriculum, with its
> > associated testing system, and remained with the previous, locally
> > based, assessment system?"
>
>I have followed the recent discussion on testing with much interest.
>
>I am willing to accept that it is the case that it is possible to make
>students mathematical thinkers and still prepare them for standardized
>national tests.
>
>But will those of you who so argue agree that, while possible, it just will
>not happen in the vast majority of mathematics classrooms where even good
>teachers under pressure will inevitably "teach to the test"?
>
>Romulo Lins' question, at least insofar as it addresses testing, seems to m=
e
>a good one. I reason as follows:
>
>1. In the U.S., where I am fairly heavily involved in the "mathed" list,
>the socalled "math wars" make the fight against standardised testing almos=
t
>impossible to win since it pits (mainly) math educators against (mainly)
>research mathematicians with the latter being very influential due to their
>generally high stature.
>
>2. But as I perceive the situation in Britain (perhaps still murkily
>although I have now lived here for 6 1/2 years), the outlook is not so
>bleak. I would think  no doubt I'll be speedily corrected if I'm wrong 
>that the university math education establishment, as well as most teachers,
>generally thinks, as I do, that standardised tests short of GCSEs and
>Alevels have no (anyhow: few) redeeming features. In addition to not bein=
g
>effective in raising standards (probably they lower them), they
>deprofessionalise teachers by telling them they are not capable of assessin=
g
>their students themselves.
>
>3. If the above is not too far off the mark, then better than trying to
>ameliorate the bad effects of testing (in which, sadly, you will probably
>fail), you would be better advised to present a united front (of course, I
>don't mean 100%) to the government requesting the cessation of these exams.
> I am not so naive as to think that this would or could be successful any
>time soon but, in the long run, it is the only way forward. I appears to m=
e
>to be the case that the research mathematics community in Britain is neithe=
r
>so wellorganised nor so antediluvian on the subject of math education as i=
n
>the U.S. and so you would not have the same level of opposition as in the
>U.S.
>
>
>Tony Ralston
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>Anthony Ralston
>Professor Emeritus of Computer Science and Mathematics
>SUNY at Buffalo
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>Academic Visitor
>Department of Computing
>Imperial College, London
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Celia